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NEW Obama Birth Certificate Info/Case Docs
http://joeseales.blogtownhall.com/2009/08/03/obamas_real_kenyan_birth_certificate_revealed.thtml ^ | August 2nd, 2009 | Joe Seales

Posted on 08/03/2009 5:06:58 AM PDT by JoeSeales

Could this be the proof that we've all been waiting for? I obviously can't attest to the authenticity of this document, but this case is for real.

Hillary Clinton has already been served on this matter, and there are SEVERAL members of the military, both former and present, who are listed as plaintiffs in this matter, as well as many state representatives.

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KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; colb; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orlytaitz; taitz; usurper
This link shows the document in question and includes yesterdays docket file for Case Number 8:09-cv-82 (Keyes v. Obama), Document 34- filed in the United States District Court, Central District of California.
1 posted on 08/03/2009 5:06:58 AM PDT by JoeSeales
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To: JoeSeales

Is this the case before the ex-marine judge who has promised all information will be presented?


2 posted on 08/03/2009 5:11:06 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: JoeSeales
We are viewed as peons by these elitists. And this issue reveals it for all to see and understand.

That's because this issue is such a simple thing to put to rest. I have a passport and a birth certificate. I can produce them at my house in a matter of minutes. I have not spent a million dollars to either acquire them...or to hide them.

This is not a unreasonable thing to ask for since being a "natural born citizen" of the US is a constitutional requirement for the job of President. It's not hateful, and it's not racist.

Proving that you are should be an honor.

Yet Obama cannot and will not produce either. Why?

But boy, did this picture get them worked up...and it will continnue today.

Click on it for a larger pic and more info. Even though it is most likely not authentic...it underscores the need for Obama to put his own certificate to the same test. But again, he will not.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

3 posted on 08/03/2009 5:12:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: JoeSeales

When I last saw yesterday’s discussion on this, there were problems concerning the date Kenya became indenpendent and changed its name (hey, it’s a Kenyan thing!). So, there’s that.


4 posted on 08/03/2009 5:14:16 AM PDT by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: JoeSeales

5 posted on 08/03/2009 5:14:47 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: JoeSeales

Although it is pleasant to contemplate comeuppance for the socialist joker I am assuming this document is a fraud. I reckon someone will soon reveal the joke and then a lot of folks will be wiping egg off their faces.


6 posted on 08/03/2009 5:20:10 AM PDT by ChoobacKY
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To: JoeSeales

There are two facts in this entire controversy that are very clear to me:

1) Obama does not want to release his original long-form birth certificate.

2) I conclude from #1 above that there is something on it very damaging to him. Politically speaking, it may not make a great deal of difference whether it renders him ineligible for the presidency or not. If he lied about a basic fact of his “compelling biography” it will damage him. It will be very hard to “spin” a lie as anything else but harmful to Obama’s image. Although the last Democratic president committed felonies in office and was touted by many as being a “victim,” so doubtless the left will try to spin any damaging revelations too.


7 posted on 08/03/2009 5:24:42 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: cvq3842
In the Messiah's book about himself he said something about finding his birth certificate in the family bible or something to that effect.

Wonder if this is that certificate?

Anyone with a copy of that book that could look up that passage and post here?

8 posted on 08/03/2009 5:28:06 AM PDT by Flint
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To: ChoobacKY

Wow, who has possession?

How long?

Where did they get it?

Does orly taitz have a copy?

Does Gibbs laugh this off, when asked also? ( like the press has the guts to ask)


9 posted on 08/03/2009 5:30:09 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Flint

No, it was a copy of the birth announcement from the local Penny Saver newspaper. HA!


10 posted on 08/03/2009 5:33:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: JoeSeales

This has been looked into. When did Kenya become a republic, and who is W F Lavendar? Those are merely two.

There is a thread on DU urging people to flood the internets with fake BC documents, for fun and also to disinform us and confuse us (us being the Sheeple in general).


11 posted on 08/03/2009 5:36:00 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: JoeSeales

Fake.


12 posted on 08/03/2009 5:36:02 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: JoeSeales

This post from DU better give you naysayers some pause.

ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-02-09 07:17 PM
Original message
Calling all DUers with Photoshop! Your country needs you!

Regarding the “Kenyan birth certificate” (found here), a fellow DUer made an excellent suggestion:
cliffordu Sun Aug-02-09 03:43 PM
20. We need to create THOUSANDS of them and ship them all over the f*cking place.

bury the f*ckers in precise fakes, all just a little different from each other.

I wanna see heads explode. I wanna see people drooling from the breakdowns.

Won’t you please help? Also, for anyone else (who doesn’t have Photoshop) we will need a name for this operation.

*= my edit.


13 posted on 08/03/2009 5:38:41 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: JoeSeales

Fake, but possibly accurate.


14 posted on 08/03/2009 5:39:12 AM PDT by sono (In government, nothing succeeds like failure.)
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To: JoeSeales
Independence & Post Independence

In 1957 African members were elected to the Legislative Council through a direct election. 1959 saw the release of Kenyatta from detention in Kapenguria. Kenyatta continued with campaign for freedom while under house arrest. In 1960, the colonial government announced plans to transfer power to a democratically elected government. In 1962, the Lancaster constitution conference was held in London where the 1st Kenya constitution was made. Kenya achieved internal self-government on June 1st 1963. Kenya was declared a republic on December 12th 1963 with Jomo Kenyatta as 1st the president. Kenyatta died in 1978 and Daniel Arap Moi took over. In 1982, the Kenyan constitution was amended declaring the country a one party state. By late 80's and early 90's, campaign for multiparty system grew strong. The constitution was amended again in 1991 paving way for multiparty system. A general election was held in 1992 and Kanu party led by Moi won the election. Kanu also won the second election in the multiparty era in 1997. The National Rainbow Coalition defeated Kanu in the 2002 general election. Mwai kibaki was inaugurated as Kenya's third president on 30th December 2002. Kenya Holiday CultureFactsHistoryLanguageReligion. Safari Videos | Sitemap | About us | Contact Copyright (C) 2009 enhols.com- Enjoy your Kenya holidays in style. All Rights Reserved. Visit Kenya & enjoy Africa safari holidays.

http://www.enhols.com/kenya_safari/history.aspx

15 posted on 08/03/2009 5:39:41 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: blu
It's hard to keep up with ALL of the information coming out on this -- there's A LOT. If you haven't seen it, ping over to Post 494 on the thread "Kenyan Birth Certificate - 1964 Divorce Timeline".

There are numerous documents and research essays that DEEPLY explore the Islamic secessionist movement in the 10 mile coastal strip of the British Protectorate leading up to and including 1964.

That area of land, which was part of what is now Coastal Province in Kenya where Mombasa lies, became independent on October 5, 1963 from an agreement in the exchange of letters between the Prime Ministers of Kenya and Zanzibar Messrs Jomo Kenyatta and M. Shamte.

It seems the Coastal Registrar's office started calling itself the "Republic of Kenya" BEFORE Dec. 12, 1964 to protect its rights and not be annexed by neighboring Zanzibar.

The facts still line up for the Kenyan birth certificate to be legitimate.

16 posted on 08/03/2009 5:40:32 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Owl_Eagle
The document looks much better than the attempts to photo/scan the short form from HI.

BTW, did you ever vote for Specter?

17 posted on 08/03/2009 5:42:25 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: DBrow
There is a thread on DU urging people to flood the internets with fake BC documents, for fun and also to disinform us and confuse us (us being the Sheeple in general).

Durr I think it is legit!!

BRB cleaning drool off chin.

18 posted on 08/03/2009 5:43:08 AM PDT by M203M4 (NEW New Deal: A pot through every window! (1/2 credit to Bastiat))
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To: Flint
Anyone with a copy of that book that could look up that passage and post here?

link

19 posted on 08/03/2009 5:46:27 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: blu; Calpernia
More info.

Post 215

20 posted on 08/03/2009 5:48:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DBrow

Kenya became a republic two years after Obama was born, yes, and Obama’s original Kenyan birth certificate would not have “Republic of Kenya” on it, but remember that the document is a “certified copy” - not the original.

This certified copy was prepared on February 17, 1964, as indicated on the bottom of the page, and this explains the term “Republic of Kenya” on the form.

So anyone claiming this is a fake because of the date Kenya became a republic simply isn’t thinking things through.


21 posted on 08/03/2009 5:49:25 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JoeSeales
Why do you think executive order #13489 seals state records?

The link

22 posted on 08/03/2009 5:54:06 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: M203M4
The best thing to point out is that birtherism is a Dem disease.
23 posted on 08/03/2009 5:57:33 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: blu
When I last saw yesterday’s discussion on this, there were problems concerning the date Kenya became indenpendent and changed its name (hey, it’s a Kenyan thing!). So, there’s that.

True, but after some judicious digging, we found that the 1963 Kenyan Constitution declared Kenya to be a Republic.

AND

Chapter 6 - Citizenship - Section 87
Persons who became citizens on 12th December, 1963
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on llth December. 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963: Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Kenya by virtue of this subsection if neither of his parents was born in Kenya.

2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall,if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December. 1963.

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Both Zero and his father automatically became citizens of the Republic of Kenya on the same day..... December 12th, 1963.

24 posted on 08/03/2009 5:57:53 AM PDT by MamaTexan (If you think calling me a 'birther' will make me stop defending the Constitution....think again!)
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To: FReepapalooza

Just like DU to bring a knife to a gun fight.

Internet copies created in Photoshop won’t help. Taitz claims she’s in possession of a physical, paper copy of the BC. If this is true, and if it’s authenticated, time will stop in the U.S. until this is taken care of.


25 posted on 08/03/2009 5:59:09 AM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: ChoobacKY

This has to be fake. Look at the No. 47044. 47= 47yrs old, O= Obama, and 44= 44th President.


26 posted on 08/03/2009 5:59:22 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: M203M4
A direct link to the post
27 posted on 08/03/2009 6:02:25 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: GoodDay

I hope you are correct.

I posted it just to show how “low” these people will go to keep this traitor in office.

Look how many people here are buying into some of the smoke screens they are throwing up.

Just my two cents, but this place needs a purge.


28 posted on 08/03/2009 6:07:43 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: DBrow
Kenya became the Republic of Kenya when Jomo Kenyatta became it's first president on 12 Dec 1963

This web site is dedicated to late Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, the first president of the Republic of Kenya,my inspiration. A very brave and compasionate leader to the end

http://kenyatourismonline.com/MZEEJOMOKENYATTA.aspx

29 posted on 08/03/2009 6:09:34 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: mvpel

The ten-mile coastal strip, which is part of "Coastal Province" today, was seceding and didn't want to be annexed by Zanzibar as the former British rule was handing over power.

It became independent on Oct. 17, 1963 nearly TWO months earlier than the rest of Kenya. They called themselves the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963, before the rest of the country was known by the same name:

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30 posted on 08/03/2009 6:18:19 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: newfreep
Listening to Beck this morning & his interview of Michelle Malkin. Beck states even if obozo is NOT a NBC, nothing can be done.

Very disappointed with Beck on this Constitutional issue.

31 posted on 08/03/2009 6:23:49 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tribune7

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”


32 posted on 08/03/2009 6:24:55 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: JoeSeales
The dates DO match up for 1964 events surrounding the Obama's 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate, and the date it was created by the Principal Registrar's office (most-likely Islamic and NOT codified in the Kenyan Constitution), fits the other prima facia information that is known.

Here we go:

Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day – what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge – what are the odds? ).
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Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce – last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii -- MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR's Birth Certificate to confirm Ann's claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is “standard” policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.

When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what's referred to as a "knock and nail". That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes -- signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR's door Jan. 27-28.
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Obama SR's notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED -- either he didn't want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.

However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.

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NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate before he'd be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didn’t have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That's when this birth certificate would have been generated -- before trial for the 1964 divorce.

Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.

Obama's unconfirmed Kenyan birth certificate


If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce -- AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.

Furthermore, it's quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate "loopholes" and told her how to file for a Hawaiian "Certificate of Delayed Birth" to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.

As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been "converted" later to a “Certificate of Live Birth” (long birth certificate) in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a "root document" of the famed “Certification of Live Birth” (short birth certificate on "Fight the Smears") we see today presented as "proof" of birth of Barack Hussein Obama II, reportedly in Hawaii (note: the abstract “Certification of Live Birth” certificate did not exist in Hawaii until November 2001).


I can’t personally vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested -- likely generated from the 1964 divorce.

It's QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.

HOWEVER -- the dates DO "line up" for the Kenyan Birth Certificate to be REAL.


33 posted on 08/03/2009 6:28:34 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: All

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Canadian Free Press writer, JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOMHAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, THE THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Dr. Orly’s official website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
.


34 posted on 08/03/2009 7:05:35 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: BP2

There is also one difference between this document and all the other ones, especially those concocted by the idiots at DU and KOS; the seal. Anyone can photoshop a document and print it out. Some may even attempt to make their counterfeits appear aged by weathering the paper and using old typewriters. But it would take a large amount of resources to fake the official seal. Quite a few people have access to their own or others’ seals, but not an official Kenyan one.


35 posted on 08/03/2009 8:35:18 AM PDT by kenth
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To: BP2

Excellent research — Please keep up the heat. All Freepers must work together to no let this issue die. We all know the State=run media will not touch this story. It is up to us who support a free republic, to pursue, pursue, pursue.
Even if this gets a affirming decision in the courts, State-run media will still recuse themselves from the entire issue. It is sad. State-run media is nothing but pathetic wimps.


36 posted on 08/03/2009 8:41:49 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: newfreep
Is this the case before the ex-marine judge who has promised all information will be presented?

No, this is the case before the ex-marine judge who promised that the case would proceed on its merits, if any. He could have thrown it out on a technicality last month but gave Taitz a second chance.

37 posted on 08/03/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: newfreep

Nothing may be done, but it will cause such confusion and problems that it will be really terrible ,but in good way for us that love our country


38 posted on 08/03/2009 9:47:59 AM PDT by mel
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To: Paladin2
BTW, did you ever vote for Specter?

No, I just left it blank.

I appeared with him at more than half a dozen campaign fundraisers in 2004 and managed never to shake the man's hand.

Truly a detestable human being.

39 posted on 08/03/2009 10:09:08 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: ChoobacKY

It’s already deemed a fraud. However, it does look more believable and official than the one the 0bamabots floated on his website.


40 posted on 08/03/2009 11:55:33 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JoeSeales

Hillary will be in Kenya on Barack’s birthday.

A coincidence?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307086/posts


41 posted on 08/03/2009 3:29:10 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: DBrow
W F Lavendar?

Where did that come from...?

Much discussion as to whether it is K.F. Lavendar or G.F. or E.F. Lavendar on the Long thread...and other threads.

42 posted on 08/04/2009 10:21:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: BP2

That is such good work....and we thank you!


43 posted on 08/04/2009 10:27:06 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lavendar, Lavender, W F, W P, who knows. DU told their troops to flood out lots of bogus Kenya BC’s to dilute any truth that may be oozing around.

In my case it was a typo.


44 posted on 08/04/2009 10:34:41 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

OK thanks.


45 posted on 08/04/2009 10:37:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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