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NEW Obama Birth Certificate Info/Case Docs
http://joeseales.blogtownhall.com/2009/08/03/obamas_real_kenyan_birth_certificate_revealed.thtml ^ | August 2nd, 2009 | Joe Seales

Posted on 08/03/2009 5:06:58 AM PDT by JoeSeales

Could this be the proof that we've all been waiting for? I obviously can't attest to the authenticity of this document, but this case is for real.

Hillary Clinton has already been served on this matter, and there are SEVERAL members of the military, both former and present, who are listed as plaintiffs in this matter, as well as many state representatives.

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To: DBrow

Kenya became a republic two years after Obama was born, yes, and Obama’s original Kenyan birth certificate would not have “Republic of Kenya” on it, but remember that the document is a “certified copy” - not the original.

This certified copy was prepared on February 17, 1964, as indicated on the bottom of the page, and this explains the term “Republic of Kenya” on the form.

So anyone claiming this is a fake because of the date Kenya became a republic simply isn’t thinking things through.


21 posted on 08/03/2009 5:49:25 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JoeSeales
Why do you think executive order #13489 seals state records?

The link

22 posted on 08/03/2009 5:54:06 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: M203M4
The best thing to point out is that birtherism is a Dem disease.
23 posted on 08/03/2009 5:57:33 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: blu
When I last saw yesterday’s discussion on this, there were problems concerning the date Kenya became indenpendent and changed its name (hey, it’s a Kenyan thing!). So, there’s that.

True, but after some judicious digging, we found that the 1963 Kenyan Constitution declared Kenya to be a Republic.

AND

Chapter 6 - Citizenship - Section 87
Persons who became citizens on 12th December, 1963
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on llth December. 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963: Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Kenya by virtue of this subsection if neither of his parents was born in Kenya.

2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall,if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December. 1963.

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Both Zero and his father automatically became citizens of the Republic of Kenya on the same day..... December 12th, 1963.

24 posted on 08/03/2009 5:57:53 AM PDT by MamaTexan (If you think calling me a 'birther' will make me stop defending the Constitution....think again!)
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To: FReepapalooza

Just like DU to bring a knife to a gun fight.

Internet copies created in Photoshop won’t help. Taitz claims she’s in possession of a physical, paper copy of the BC. If this is true, and if it’s authenticated, time will stop in the U.S. until this is taken care of.


25 posted on 08/03/2009 5:59:09 AM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: ChoobacKY

This has to be fake. Look at the No. 47044. 47= 47yrs old, O= Obama, and 44= 44th President.


26 posted on 08/03/2009 5:59:22 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: M203M4
A direct link to the post
27 posted on 08/03/2009 6:02:25 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: GoodDay

I hope you are correct.

I posted it just to show how “low” these people will go to keep this traitor in office.

Look how many people here are buying into some of the smoke screens they are throwing up.

Just my two cents, but this place needs a purge.


28 posted on 08/03/2009 6:07:43 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: DBrow
Kenya became the Republic of Kenya when Jomo Kenyatta became it's first president on 12 Dec 1963

This web site is dedicated to late Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, the first president of the Republic of Kenya,my inspiration. A very brave and compasionate leader to the end

http://kenyatourismonline.com/MZEEJOMOKENYATTA.aspx

29 posted on 08/03/2009 6:09:34 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: mvpel

The ten-mile coastal strip, which is part of "Coastal Province" today, was seceding and didn't want to be annexed by Zanzibar as the former British rule was handing over power.

It became independent on Oct. 17, 1963 nearly TWO months earlier than the rest of Kenya. They called themselves the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963, before the rest of the country was known by the same name:

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30 posted on 08/03/2009 6:18:19 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: newfreep
Listening to Beck this morning & his interview of Michelle Malkin. Beck states even if obozo is NOT a NBC, nothing can be done.

Very disappointed with Beck on this Constitutional issue.

31 posted on 08/03/2009 6:23:49 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tribune7

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”


32 posted on 08/03/2009 6:24:55 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: JoeSeales
The dates DO match up for 1964 events surrounding the Obama's 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate, and the date it was created by the Principal Registrar's office (most-likely Islamic and NOT codified in the Kenyan Constitution), fits the other prima facia information that is known.

Here we go:

Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day – what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge – what are the odds? ).
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Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce – last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii -- MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR's Birth Certificate to confirm Ann's claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is “standard” policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.

When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what's referred to as a "knock and nail". That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes -- signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR's door Jan. 27-28.
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Obama SR's notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED -- either he didn't want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.

However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.

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NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate before he'd be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didn’t have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That's when this birth certificate would have been generated -- before trial for the 1964 divorce.

Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.

Obama's unconfirmed Kenyan birth certificate


If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce -- AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.

Furthermore, it's quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate "loopholes" and told her how to file for a Hawaiian "Certificate of Delayed Birth" to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.

As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been "converted" later to a “Certificate of Live Birth” (long birth certificate) in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a "root document" of the famed “Certification of Live Birth” (short birth certificate on "Fight the Smears") we see today presented as "proof" of birth of Barack Hussein Obama II, reportedly in Hawaii (note: the abstract “Certification of Live Birth” certificate did not exist in Hawaii until November 2001).


I can’t personally vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested -- likely generated from the 1964 divorce.

It's QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.

HOWEVER -- the dates DO "line up" for the Kenyan Birth Certificate to be REAL.


33 posted on 08/03/2009 6:28:34 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: All

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Canadian Free Press writer, JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOMHAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, THE THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Dr. Orly’s official website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
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34 posted on 08/03/2009 7:05:35 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: BP2

There is also one difference between this document and all the other ones, especially those concocted by the idiots at DU and KOS; the seal. Anyone can photoshop a document and print it out. Some may even attempt to make their counterfeits appear aged by weathering the paper and using old typewriters. But it would take a large amount of resources to fake the official seal. Quite a few people have access to their own or others’ seals, but not an official Kenyan one.


35 posted on 08/03/2009 8:35:18 AM PDT by kenth
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To: BP2

Excellent research — Please keep up the heat. All Freepers must work together to no let this issue die. We all know the State=run media will not touch this story. It is up to us who support a free republic, to pursue, pursue, pursue.
Even if this gets a affirming decision in the courts, State-run media will still recuse themselves from the entire issue. It is sad. State-run media is nothing but pathetic wimps.


36 posted on 08/03/2009 8:41:49 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: newfreep
Is this the case before the ex-marine judge who has promised all information will be presented?

No, this is the case before the ex-marine judge who promised that the case would proceed on its merits, if any. He could have thrown it out on a technicality last month but gave Taitz a second chance.

37 posted on 08/03/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: newfreep

Nothing may be done, but it will cause such confusion and problems that it will be really terrible ,but in good way for us that love our country


38 posted on 08/03/2009 9:47:59 AM PDT by mel
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To: Paladin2
BTW, did you ever vote for Specter?

No, I just left it blank.

I appeared with him at more than half a dozen campaign fundraisers in 2004 and managed never to shake the man's hand.

Truly a detestable human being.

39 posted on 08/03/2009 10:09:08 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: ChoobacKY

It’s already deemed a fraud. However, it does look more believable and official than the one the 0bamabots floated on his website.


40 posted on 08/03/2009 11:55:33 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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