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Birthers...Traitors? Or Merely Fools? (You had to see this coming if the race card ain't working)
WhitesCreek Journal ^ | August 3, 2009

Posted on 08/03/2009 9:03:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If someone intentionally tried to thwart the workings of the United States government by fake documents and misinformation, we would normally call them “espionage agents” and try them for treason if they were exposed and caught. So what about the people who have several versions of a fake Obama birth certificate that purports to prove he was born in the Republic of Kenya and therefore can’t serve as President? Isn’t that treason?

The best of these forgeries has several versions, some better Photoshop products than others, but the funny thing about all this is that they are all so bad that they can only fool fools. The real Obama birth certificate has been released, examined, vouched for by hospital officials, and verified by birth announcements published in the local Hawaiian newspapers in 1961, a really nice touch that would be impossible to fake. So the question is not whether “Birthers” are fools, but whether those who are manipulating them should be tried as traitors to the very nation they claim their brand of virulent “patriotism” to?

Most of the websites that have sprung up surrounding this idiocy spew verbiage intended to support the birther premise and nothing to the contrary is allowed. Here is one that takes a critical thinking approach to the movement and not only blows it out of the water but makes the entire birther movement, including Lou Dobbs at CNN, look like morons.

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/third-obama-birth-certificate-appears-in-court/

Rather than dwell on these easily manipulated suckers, I want to know why we aren’t going after the people who are trying to destroy the Presidency of the United States of America by producing fake documents, albeit stupidly and badly done documents?

The bigger problem with American journalism is only partly that a bleached toothed tool like Lou Dobbs is what passes for a legitimate journalist in today’s media. The real problem is that real journalists, who believe in their Constitutional obligation to deliver truthful investigative reporting, have been eclipsed by bleached toothed tools who are willingly manipulated by traitors.

This is why such an obvious movement for the greater good of all citizens, such as Heathcare Reform, is having such a difficult time becoming reality. If there such a thing as Truth Police and they had the power to stop the lies, we would already have a robust public option with everyone in the United States of America having basic health care insurance. Are those who are funding the anti health care reform propaganda traitors, or just insurance industry tools? Even more to the point…Is there a difference?

Peace,

Steve


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; allahpundit; article2section1; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; charlesjohnson; colb; hillary; hotair; kenyabelieveit; lgf; littlegreenfootballs; obama; obamacare; obamanoncitizenissue; orlytaitz; pumas; stefancook
If this is satire, it's spot-on. But I have a feeling it's not, and this guy really believes all the things he writes here. Sad.
1 posted on 08/03/2009 9:03:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH, if that makes me a raciest, fool or whatever … I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH.


2 posted on 08/03/2009 9:07:45 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama? Not so much.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Considering the toilet bowl looming in front of this country, anyone trying to play the race card is irrelevant.

My country, my freedom, my children and grandchildren’s futures are all I care about.


3 posted on 08/03/2009 9:07:55 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If someone intentionally tried to thwart the workings of the United States government by fake documents and misinformation, we would normally call them “espionage agents” and try them for treason if they were exposed and caught.

He has a point. It's time to bring Dan Rather, Bill Burkett (or whatever his name is) and the whole 60 Minutes/CBS News apparatus up on charges.
4 posted on 08/03/2009 9:08:50 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LIE=>

“verified by birth announcements published in the local Hawaiian newspapers in 1961, a really nice touch that would be impossible to fake.”

Barrack H. Obama and Stanley Ann Obama never resided at the birth announcement address.

In my opinion this was done to support whatever the lie about his birth place was. We still do not know where he was born......


5 posted on 08/03/2009 9:08:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

try them for treason ...

Try me for treason ... please. I'm a "birther". I was a "birther" before the term was coined. Before that, I was just a Constitutional Conservative. I'll be tried; and happily so. At least I'll have "standing" in court and be able to put an end to the silliness that pervades government today. I'll take one for the team. Anyone else?


6 posted on 08/03/2009 9:09:53 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Bill Burkett (or whatever his name is)”

Yep.

You got his name right.

At one time many years before this event I worked in the same company with him. I knew him, sort of. We were salesmen for the same company in different States. Saw him 2 times per year for a few years.


7 posted on 08/03/2009 9:12:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: so_real

Bump


8 posted on 08/03/2009 9:12:55 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: so_real

Sign me up. I can produce my original BC in about two minutes.


9 posted on 08/03/2009 9:16:55 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cool, a whole bunch of 9/11 ‘truthers’ we can get if that is the case.


10 posted on 08/03/2009 9:18:51 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: mplsconservative

Oh, that would take me about 2 hours at least.


11 posted on 08/03/2009 9:19:59 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some here will not like to hear this ... but I think there are some “Birthers” in all three camps — patriots, traitors and fools.

- The patriots are the majority. They have genuine questions and seek genuine answers. They are good men and women, salt-of-the-Earth, and value their country and their Constitution. They want to know if the man in the White House is truly qualified to be there. They want him out if he is truly not qualified, and want him to serve his term out (as unsuccessfully as possible) if he is actually qualified. I count myself among them. The other two groups give this group a bad name.

- The traitors are those who will seek the overthrow of Barack Obama by any means possible. They honestly don’t care if he is a citizen of the US, Kenya, or Mars. They would simply rather see a tyranny that they agree with than a fairly elected leader that they do not. These are few and far between, but the do exist.

- The fools are the ones that start out as patriots, and get worked into a froth by the traitors. They are passionate, loud mouthed, and generally talk bigger than their swagger justifies. Rather than actually examining evidence, they’ll believe anything they read that agrees with their preconcieved notions. These are your keyboard “revolutionaries” — typing feverishly as their rhetoric spirals more and more out-of-control.

If the latter two categories would shut-up for ten consecutive seconds, and stop making the whole group look like a bunch of raving lunatics, the much larger former group of genuine patriots might actually be able to get something done.

SnakeDoc


12 posted on 08/03/2009 9:20:43 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So all the Kenyan birth certificates are bad photoshops, but the bad photoshop of Obama’s Hawaii Birth Certificate is just hunky dory?


13 posted on 08/03/2009 9:23:40 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is sad is that we have alleged “conservatives” who are spouting this same marginalization type of nonsense like this libbie


14 posted on 08/03/2009 9:23:55 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Know the difference between "conservative" and "republican")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So what about the people who have several versions of a fake Obama birth certificate that purports to prove he was born in the Republic of Kenya and therefore can’t serve as President? Isn’t that treason?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What about the fake COLBs?

And...Dr.Fukino’s circuitous obfuscations regarding vital record verify other vital records sounds like a Monty Python skit.

15 posted on 08/03/2009 9:24:31 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: mamelukesabre

You don’t have an online COLB posted on photobucket? j/k


16 posted on 08/03/2009 9:26:29 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Texas Fossil
In my opinion this was done to support whatever the lie about his birth place was. We still do not know where he was born....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Has anyone ever seen an actual **paper** copy of the newspapers where Obama’s birth was announced?

Geeze! There must be one in some dusty library or tucked away in a baby book somewhere.

17 posted on 08/03/2009 9:26:30 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The bigger problem with American journalism is only partly that a bleached toothed tool like Lou Dobbs is what passes for a legitimate journalist in today’s media.

Not a Dobbs fan, but his work is clearly identified as commentary, not news reporting.

It's a FAR bigger problem that people like Andrea ("People don't know what's good for them") Mitchell are considered "objective reporters."

18 posted on 08/03/2009 9:32:38 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: autumnraine

Exactly!


19 posted on 08/03/2009 9:33:46 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm blessed!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t be surprised if Rahmbo didn’t post this.

As a Canadian I’m amazed at how much the President of the US is allowed to hide. More importantly is WHY he feels it neccessary to have ‘classified’ all his school records, etc.

I love the USA and I’m sure the whole world is watching and wondering, and just as suspicious as all of you. Hang in there friends.


20 posted on 08/03/2009 9:43:43 PM PDT by adanaC (Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
...If we continue to JUDGE each other, with any other standard than, Do you believe the Constitution to be the “Rule of Law” of the United States???

...Appreciate your point, every POV ends up in the pot. Pull the lever, and fill the next bowl...

...It's all about when you look at it...

21 posted on 08/03/2009 9:44:45 PM PDT by gargoyle (...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If this be treason, let us make the most of it.”

- Patrick Henry


22 posted on 08/03/2009 9:48:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: adanaC

Thank you so much for such kind words.


23 posted on 08/03/2009 9:56:20 PM PDT by chris37
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To: wintertime

It is on microfilm in 2 libraries.

In the beginning, some questioned the printed copy (poor quality), but it has been checked.

The problem with the announcement is that the Obama’s never lived at the address.

That implies to me that it was done by friends to substantiate the grandmother’s effort to give Obozo U.S. citizenship. Natural Born Citizenship is another issue.

Bigger issues than where he was born, are his college records and whether he was granted his scholarship as a foreign exchanges student. Did he present a Foreign birth certificate in order to qualify for that?

The list of relivant information that is hidden is long. All I want is the Truth, but he will resist that until the end.


24 posted on 08/03/2009 9:56:37 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"we would normally call them “espionage agents” and try them for treason if they were exposed and caught."

Hey, you worthless democrat scum!!!!!!

I TRIPLE-DOG-DARE YOU TO TAKE AGGRESSIVE ACTION AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR ASKING QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.

BRING IT ON, YOU COWARDLY B@STARDS!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 08/03/2009 9:57:42 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rather than dwell on these easily manipulated suckers, I want to know why we aren’t going after the people who are trying to destroy the Presidency of the United States of America by producing fake documents, albeit stupidly and badly done documents?

You shouldn't have used the first word, sucker! Where were you when Rather's "fake but accurate" documents were destroying W's Presidency/re-election?

What a libastard!

26 posted on 08/03/2009 10:05:09 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: Dr. Sivana
And Bill Clinton? What about Billzo ~ he certainly told some doozies.

If we start hanging all the liars and just start with the Democrats there'll be no end to it.

27 posted on 08/03/2009 10:12:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: melancholy

More properly a “Leftwingtard” ~ recalling the Algore’s approach to such things.


28 posted on 08/03/2009 10:14:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: adanaC

Thanks, Canadian FRiend.

Speaking for myself, the BC is part of the general question. Where is zero’s paper trail? Why is it sealed? The idiots elected a ghost not a brilliant, handsome, teleprompted Messiah.

I want to see his records: medical, school grades/student loans/nationalities/names, selective service, multiple social security numbers and who paid for his clairvoyant life.

I bet that the BC is just the finger in the dam even if there are no surprises in it; he wouldn’t want the rest of his records seen. He must have lied numerous times about his name(s), nationality (a foreign student), SS numbers, etc.

The Brilliant One must have graduated with a negative GPA and passed along under the racist affirmative action boondoggle!

Regards,
A ghoster NOT a birther


29 posted on 08/03/2009 10:29:10 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: melancholy

BINGO !


30 posted on 08/03/2009 11:00:34 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Birthers...Traitors? Or Merely Fools?

I would have said: ObamaVoters...Traitors? Or Merely Fools?

31 posted on 08/04/2009 5:35:44 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rather than dwell on these easily manipulated suckers, I want to know why we aren’t going after the people who are trying to destroy the Presidency of the United States of America by producing fake documents, albeit stupidly and badly done documents?

I wonder how this guy felt about Dan Rather's fake but accurate report just before Election Day,2004.

32 posted on 08/04/2009 5:43:18 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


33 posted on 08/04/2009 7:01:30 AM PDT by Dryman (Now, Back to Lurking)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"If someone intentionally tried to thwart the workings of the United States government by fake documents and misinformation, we would normally call them “espionage agents” and try them for treason if they were exposed and caught."

How about someone intentionally trying to thwart the U.S. Constitution with fake documents and misinformation in the media, give me a break

34 posted on 08/04/2009 7:32:13 AM PDT by stevejwn (Right to Life, Librety and the 2nd Amendemnt)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Not only did Dan Rather et al try to thwart the workings of the US government by fake documents and misinformation; they blatantly LIED about the documents.

“Unimpeachable sources” became ONE highly suspect source.

“Authenticated documents” became “nobody would verify it except the signature guy, and he said it was consistent with but impossible to verify from a copy”.

Yep. Treason charges for Gunga Dan! I am sure they will be right on it! ;)

35 posted on 08/04/2009 7:36:46 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If there such a thing as Truth Police and they had the power to stop the lies, we would already have a robust public option with everyone in the United States of America having basic health care insurance.

Truth Police?

This is either satire or this person has lost his mind.

STE=Q

36 posted on 08/04/2009 9:19:05 AM PDT by STE=Q (Let's see the B.C.!)
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