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Blog Post ^ | 2009.08.06.0815 | Bitpig (B-Chan)

Posted on 08/05/2009 10:16:39 PM PDT by B-Chan


Photo: Seizo Yamada (7 km northeast of Hiroshima)

TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: atomicbom; hiroshima; militaryhistory; nuclearweapons; worldwar2
""Sixteen hours ago an American airplane dropped one bomb on Hiroshima, an important Japanese Army base. That bomb had more power than 20,000 tons of TNT. It had more than 2,000 times the blast power of the British 'Grand Slam,' which is the largest bomb ever yet used in the history of warfare.

"The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have been repaid manyfold. And the end is not yet. With this bomb we have now added a new and revolutionary increase in destruction to supplement the growing power of our armed forces. In their present form these bombs are now in production, and even more powerful forms are in development.

"It is an atomic bomb. It is a harnessing of the basic power of the universe. The force from which the sun draws its power has been loosed against those who brought war to the Far EastBefore 1939, it was the accepted belief of scientists that it was theoretically possible to release atomic energy. But no one knew any practical method of doing it. By 1942, however, we knew that the Germans were working feverishly to find a way to add atomic energy to the other engines of war with which they hoped to enslave the world. But they failed. We may be grateful to Providence that the Germans got the V-1's and V-2's late and in limited quantities and even more grateful that they did not get the atomic bomb at all.

"The battle of the laboratories held fateful risks for us as well as the battles of the air, land, and sea, and we have now won the battle of the laboratories as we have won the other battles.

"Beginning in 1940, before Pearl Harbor, scientific knowledge useful in war was pooled between the United States and Great Britain, and many priceless helps to our victories have come from that arrangement. Under that general policy the research on the atomic bomb was begun. With American and British scientists working together we entered the race of discovery against the Germans

"The United States had available the large number of scientists of distinction in the many needed areas of knowledge. It had the tremendous industrial and financial resources necessary for the project, and they could be devoted to it without undue impairment of other vital war work. In the United States the laboratory work and the production plants, on which a substantial start had already been made, would be out of reach of enemy bombing, while at that time Britain was exposed to constant air attack and was still threatened with the possibility of invasion. For these reasons Prime Minister Churchill and President Roosevelt agreed that it was wise to carry on the project here

"We now have two great plants and many lesser works devoted to the production of atomic power. Employment during peak construction numbered 125,000 and over 65,000 individuals are even now engaged in operating the plants. Many have worked there for two and a half years. Few know what they have been producing. They see great quantities of material going in and they see nothing coming out of these plants, for the physical size of the explosive charge is exceedingly small.

"We have spent $2 billion on the greatest scientific gamble in history--and won.

"But the greatest marvel is not the size of the enterprise, its secrecy, nor its cost, but the achievement of scientific brains in putting together infinitely complex pieces of knowledge held by many men in different fields of science into a workable plan. And hardly less marvelous has been the capacity of industry to design, and of labor to operate, the machines and methods to do things never done before so that the brainchild of many minds came forth in physical shape and performed as it was supposed to do. Both science and industry worked under the direction of the United States Army, which achieved a unique success in managing so diverse a problem in the advancement of knowledge in an amazingly short time. It is doubtful if such another combination could be got together in the world. What has been done is the greatest achievement of organized science in history. It was done under high pressure and without failure.

"We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. We shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. Let there be no mistake; we shall completely destroy Japan's power to make war

It was to spare the Japanese people from utter destruction that the ultimatum of July 26 was issued at Potsdam.* Their leaders promptly rejected that ultimatum.

If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth..."

-- President Harry S Truman,
Radio Address to the Nation
6 August 1945

69 years ago today.

1 posted on 08/05/2009 10:16:40 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
"We have spent $2 billion Trillion on the greatest scientific socialist gamble in history--and won lost.

--Barack Obama, Dreams of My Fascism /sarc>

2 posted on 08/05/2009 10:26:30 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: B-Chan

presidential......regretable about war....most peoples want to live quietly and in peace, but when leaders become dictators anything can happen.....Hitler, Castro, Chavez.......finish the list as you will....

3 posted on 08/05/2009 10:28:13 PM PDT by cherry
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To: B-Chan

"The gratitude of every home in our island, in our Empire, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the British airmen who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the world war by their prowess and by their devotion. Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. "

4 posted on 08/05/2009 10:33:02 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: B-Chan

and may God bless Lt. General Curtis LeMay

5 posted on 08/05/2009 11:01:37 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: B-Chan

my favorite all time speech.

6 posted on 08/05/2009 11:53:03 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: B-Chan

Had it not been for the bomb, Japanese society would not be the way it is today, nor would all of the things that Japan has given the world be produced.

They went through an apocalypse of sorts, and are a better nation as a result.

The Americans and Japanese are thick as thieves. And that’s the way it needs to be. For the safety of all the Pacific.

Thank you, Curtis LeMay. Thank you, Douglas MacArthur, and in some respects, thank you to Emperor Showa for finally taking a stand and understanding that his country’s survival depended on getting rid of the fringe elements of his country.

7 posted on 08/06/2009 1:17:26 AM PDT by ThePanFromJapan (The Pundit class is going to be crapping bricks at what's coming next...*evil grin*)
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To: LeoWindhorse

General LeMay was in charge of the bombing campaign that eventually reduced most of the major cities in Japan into smoldering ruins. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were spared because the military wanted to be able to evaluate the effectiveness of the atomic bombs. The way they built their homes, everything just went up like kindling. A friend of mine was in the Air Force in WW2 and he said that towards the end, bomber crews sent to bomb Tokyo would sometimes drop their bombs in the ocean because there was nothing left to destroy in Tokyo.

8 posted on 08/06/2009 1:54:22 AM PDT by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

the good General was my dad’s boss

9 posted on 08/06/2009 2:18:05 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: ThePanFromJapan

Reading John Dower’s “War Without Mercy; Race and Power in the Pacific War.” Dower writes it’s incredible that within a few months of the war, the racism on both sides was put behind us.

10 posted on 08/06/2009 4:30:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ThePanFromJapan

I agree. The Japan-America relationship is as important to the world as is the Uk-America relationship. The United States and Japan should pursue even further integration — their strengths augmenting our weaknesses, and vice versa.

11 posted on 08/06/2009 6:31:19 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Texan. Monarchist. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

Japan started the war, and we did what we had to do to end it.

12 posted on 08/06/2009 6:35:22 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: behzinlea

I agree. The decision to drop that bomb was made on 7 December 1945.

13 posted on 08/06/2009 7:05:54 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
it’s incredible that within a few months of the war, the racism on both sides was put behind us.

The evolutionary purpose for racism is to help win at war. The unnatural evolutionary pressure that drives human evolution is tribal warfare, where two tribes collide and the losing culture and/or gene pool is razed. Almost all human customs and traits can be traced to their advantage in war. A tribe with the trait of racism, hatred of another tribe hyped up by their leaders, has a fighting advantage over a tribe of indifferent competitors. It is probably not wise to succeed in eliminating all racism within a culture.

An Americanized Japanese girl with blue eyes:

14 posted on 08/06/2009 7:10:59 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses
An Americanized Japanese girl with blue eyes:

Another thing in all likelihood you can thank an American GI for!

15 posted on 08/06/2009 7:14:02 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Reeses

There was extraordinary racism on both sides.

16 posted on 08/06/2009 7:20:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: B-Chan

We didn’t start the war, but we sure finished it.

The bomb save millions of Japanese lives, and saved Japan from the fate of Korea, because the Soviets would have taken their piece of Japan had the war continued.

17 posted on 08/06/2009 7:22:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
There was extraordinary racism on both sides.

Yes, that's because the Japanese are highly evolved tribal warriors, and so are we. If they did not hate us so much at the time, they would have lost much sooner. A useful feature of racism is it can be lowered quickly after war. A tribe that cannot turn it off is as much at an evolutionary disadvantage as one that cannot turn it on.

18 posted on 08/06/2009 7:30:41 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses

I don’t see how that’s possible. Isn’t the gene for blue eyes recessive?

19 posted on 08/06/2009 7:35:10 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Reeses
I think America is the antithesis of “tribal.”
20 posted on 08/06/2009 7:37:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: B-Chan
Isn’t the gene for blue eyes recessive?

It's common for two brown eyed parents to have a blue eyed child if they both carry the recessive blue eye gene.

21 posted on 08/06/2009 7:40:09 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
We're a melting pot, which also has an evolutionary advantage, but the action word is melt. If they don't acclimate to American culture, they aren't a functional member of tribe USA.

If you don't understand that human means tribal war maker then you are at a human evolutionary disadvantage.

22 posted on 08/06/2009 7:49:39 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses

I think the mixture of Japanese and European DNA is probably the best of all worlds. Cultures, too!

23 posted on 08/06/2009 7:56:32 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: cherry

I wrote this essay in response to another decrying the use of the “Bomb.”

A Counter Reflection on General Tibbet’s Death and the A Bomb

I read Chris Check’s reflections on the death of BG Paul Tibbets with great interest. Most historians believe that Tibbet’s role in the atom bombing of Hiroshima was the precipitate cause of the conclusion of the greatest man made disaster in all of human history since the fall, the Second World War. Mr. Check expresses reservations as to the necessity of this action, indeed whether or not the theory, practice and technology of modern warfare allows any war to be prosecuted in accordance with just war theory. Mr. Check does not seem to fall into the camp of those historical revisionists who make suspect claims of an imminent Japanese surrender which negated the rationale for using the A-Bomb. Instead he offers a pointed criticism of the fact that the Bomb was even employed and a concomitant reappraisal of Gen. Tibbet’s role on that historic mission.

The vital works of the great philosophers Cicero, Aristotle, Augustine of Hippo, St. Thomas Aqinas, or Hugo Grotious attempted to codify the requirements for just war. These men spoke to the notion that any war, or acts performed pursuant to it, must conform to certain principles which would allow the waging of war within a synthesis of classical Greco-Roman, as well as Christian, values. Just war theory can be meaningfully divided into three parts, which in the literature are referred to, for the sake of convenience, in Latin. These parts are: 1) jus ad bellum, which concerns the justice of resorting to war in the first place; 2) jus in bello, which concerns the justice of conduct within war, after it has begun; and 3) jus post bellum, which concerns the justice of peace agreements and the termination phase of war. I wish to examine Mr. Check’s premise concerning Gen Tibbets and the Hiroshima A Bomb. in light of all three of these just war considerations.

1. Jus ad bellum: The US was negotiating in good faith with Japanese diplomatic envoys for a peaceful resolution to the crisis occasioned by the Japanese occupation of French Indohina and FDR’s subsequent oil embargo right up to the moment Japanese naval aircraft bombed Pearl Harbor. This despite US expectations of an imminent attack by Japan on the US sphere of influence, most notably the Phillipines. The deaths and wounding of almost 3600 Americans, and the destruction of 6 battleships, 3 destroyers, 3 cruisers, hundreds of aircraft and port facilities amply satisfied the justification for a recognition of the state of war existing between the US and Japan. President Roosevelt’s ringing speech to Congress requesting a declaration of war promised that the US would “win through to inevitable triumph, so help us God.” Germany’s declaration of war on the US followed three days later. There is little doubt that the Jus ad bellum consideration was met.

2. Jus in bello: This aspect of the just war principle is the most problematic for those such as myself who defend the use of the A Bomb. It is an inherently monstrous act to use a weapon of the indiscriminate nature of the Hiroshima A Bomb on a target peopled largely by civillians, thereby violating the subsidiary rules of discrimination, porportionality, and minimum force. But we are not about to revert to conducting war with serried ranks of Phalanxes drawn up against each other with no civillians in sight. No side will yield the percieved advantage of technology. “End justifies the means” arguments are also singularly unpersuasive to me. Notwithstanding that we can acknowledge, for instance that a discussion of the abortion evil should allow for the admitttedly rare “physical life of the mother” exception. Commensurately an argument can be made for the unique qualities of the Second World War as an exception to the discrimination and minimum force rule if not the porportionality argument. Any study of this issue must include context. That context was total war against an unrelenting foe whose national character and policies contributed to a racially tinged (on both sides) struggle of the utmost savagery. The slaughter and barbarity of the Pacific war was enhanced by the Japanese refusal to contemplate the shameful reality of surrender no matter how hopeless the situation, and their near total disregard for the accepted conventions of legal conduct in war. I think that I can show that a greater evil would have been done by allowing the continuation of that war rather than to shock the Japanese people into an abrupt surrender by the use of nuclear weapons.

The invasion of Japan was in the offing. At the Potsdam Conference of 24 July 1945, the Allied position was that the ‘Japanese forces would be disarmed’ Japanese sovereignty would be limited to the four main islands of Japan ‘and such minor islands as we shall determine’ and ‘respect for fundamental human rights’ would be established. The message ended with this: ‘We call upon the Government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional surrender of all the Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate assurances of their good faith in such action. The aternative for Japan is complete and utter destruction.’

The implementation of these publically stated objectives required the complete defeat of Japan and it’s occupation. The militarists controlling Japan were determined to resist even unto the destruction of Japan. Prime Minister Suzuki Kantaro was willing to negotiate peace thru Switzerland or the Soviet Union, but War Minister Anami Korechika and the Chiefs of Staff Gen. Umeza Yoshijiro and Adm Toyoda Soemu insisted on ‘ prosecuting the war to the bitter end in order to uphold our national essence, protect the imperial land and (incredibly) achieve our goals of conquest’. The Japanese correctly deduced the objectives of Operation Downfall, the proposed US invasion scheme which was divided into two phases, Olympic, the invasion of Kyushu and Coronet, the invasion of the main island of Honshu. Accordingly the Japanese prepared Operation Decision (Ketsu-Go) which envisaged the deployment of over 2 million troops along the coast to repel Allied landings, to be reinforced by four million armed forces civillian employees and a civillian militia of old people, school children of both sexes numbering 28 million. An invasion of Japan would have been D-day magnified a thousand times, it would have been Stalingrad from the sea. For instance, The 2nd Marine Division was slated to be in the initial assault. It no longer appears in the plans for Operation Olympic after D-Day + 4. The assumption is that it would have ceased to exist or be combat ineffective. Other units are similarly omitted.

An actual model exists for such speculation, the Battle for Okinowa. Pre invasion Okinowa was populated by 574,368 Okinowans.. Take a trip to Okinawa and visit Peace Prayer Park. It’s easy to find. It is right next to the Suicide Cliffs just down the road a ways from the Japanese Naval Underground Headquarters. There you will see the names of 200,656 men women and children inscribed on black marble slabs who died on that island in the last battle of World War II. Those slabs reveal the following death toll: Japanese 188,136
From other prefectures (soldiers and civilian employees) 65,908
From Okinawa (soldiers and civilian employees) 28,228
From Okinawa (civilians fighting in battles) 56,861
From Okinawa (non-fighting civilians) 37,139
Americans 12,520
Following the battle there was not one thing on the island growing or man-made that was over 24 inches high. The entire population of the island was 574,368 and there were 4.72 artillery shells fired per person during the battle. The land war on Okinawa was soul destroying brutal as American soldiers and Marines doggedly attempted to break the ferocious Japanese resistance. Names like Sugar Loaf and Kakazu Ridge still invoke nightmarish memories from Okinawa veterans. The US Navy suffered the worst pounding in its history, with over 5000 sailors killed and 35 ships sunk by Kamikaze attack.
People extrapolate from 48,000 American and 230,000 Japanese casualties at Okinawa to 500,000 American and millions of Japanese casualties for mainland invasions. Those estimates could have vastly understated the actual causalities. Japan’s 374,000 mountainous square miles mathematically enables over 500 defensive redoubts comparable to General Ushijima’s formidable Okinawa constructions such as those on the Shuri line that inflicted most Okinawa losses. The War Faction adopted the motto of “100 million Japanese deaths” for planning final mainland battles. Besides kamikazes, redeployed Kwantung divisions, and bamboo spears for civilians, the allies faced biological warfare. Occupation searchers uncovered large stockpiles of viruses, spirochetes, and fungus spores throughout rural Japan. One delivery plan directed Japanese to infect themselves and then surrender. The “Greatest Generation” and their parents would have been enraged to discover a political cabal who satisfied their moral orthodoxy by condemning over 500,000 Americans who might otherwise have been saved.

Hiroshima was a target with military value. It was headquarters for the 2nd Japanese Army, charged with the defense of the southern island of Kyushu, the objective of Operation Olympic, whom the United States would have been fighting had the invasion commenced. It also had numerous factories producing military goods. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops. Both Command & Control and military production facilities are legitimate military targets.
Other consequences of other than a rapid end to the war were the slow starvation of the Japanese people. Their island nation’s food supplying merchant fleet was at the bottom of the Pacific, with 5 million tons of it put there by the extraordinarily successful American submarine campaign. In the summer of 1945 Field Marshal Terauchi had openly ordered prison camp commanders to slaughter the Allied prisoners in their control (who were dying at a 33% death rate) at the onset of the invasion. The brutal Japanese occupations of the conquered Asian nations were killing tens of thousands of civilians a month in China, Malaysia, Burma, Singapore, the Solomons, Thailand, and anywhere that the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere sent its soldiers, inflamed by the Japanese militarist’s corrupted code of Bushido to rape, pillage and kill without mercy. Millions of Asian civilians were killed and others in China served as guinea pigs for Unit 731’s depraved medical experimentations into human vivisection, disease infestation and other atrocities more horrifying than the vilest of Josef Mengele’s worst inspirations. Japanese scientists performed tests on prisoners centering on the plague, cholera, smallpox, botulism and other diseases. This research led to the development of the defoliation bacilli bomb and the flea bomb used to spread the bubonic plague. Some of these bombs were designed with ceramic (porcelain) shells, an idea proposed by Shiro Ishii in 1938.
These bombs enabled Japanese soldiers to launch biological attacks, infecting agriculture, reservoirs, wells and other areas with anthrax, plague-carrying fleas, typhoid, dysentery, cholera and other deadly pathogens.
Additionally, infected food supplies and clothing were dropped by planes into areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces. These activities continued until war’s end.

The Japanese had concocted a plan to launch M6A1 Seiran floatplane bombers from their huge I-400 class subs to drop bombs loaded with biological agents such as plaque and Anthrax on the West Coast of the US. The ships had sailed with a target date of 15 August 1945. Only the end of the war on 14 August occasioned their recall before they reached landfall.

In the afternoon of August 14, Japanese radio announced that an Imperial Proclamation was soon to be made, accepting the terms of unconditional surrender drawn up at the Potsdam Conference. That proclamation had already been recorded by the emperor. The news did not go over well, as more than 1,000 Japanese soldiers stormed the Imperial Palace in an attempt to find the proclamation and prevent its being transmitted to the Allies. Soldiers still loyal to Emperor Hirohito repulsed the attackers.
That evening, General Anami, the member of the War Council most adamant against surrender, committed suicide. His reason: to atone for the Japanese army’s defeat, and to be spared having to hear his emperor speak the words of surrender.

Foreign minister Shidehara wrote, “If we continue to fight back bravely, even if hundreds of thousands of noncombatants are killed... there would be room to produce a more favorable international situation for Japan.”

“Due to the nationwide food shortage... - it will be necessary to kill all of the infirm old people, the very young, and the sick.

Admiral Onishi: “If we are prepared to sacrifice 20 million Japanese lives in kamikaze effort, victory will be ours.”

“With luck, we will repulse the invaders before they land.” - General Yoshijiro Umezu

“Who can be 100% sure of defeat?” - War minister General Anami

All said in the August 9th meeting of the 6 man ‘Supreme Council for the Direction of the War’ held in Tokyo. I would ask that you carefully consider the date as you ponder the Japanese willingness to surrender.
Another item for your consideration: The bomb also stopped Soviet expansion in Asia. The U.S.S.R. declared war on Japan on August 8 and if the war had continued the U.S.S.R. would have invaded and occupied large parts of northern China and northern Japan. The U.S.S.R would have had a presence in the Far East as in Eastern Europe.
As it was, the Soviets occupied North Korea and set up a Stalinist regime that troubles the world to this day. Imagine the Soviets with a Stalinist puppet government in Northern Japan. You don’t have to wonder, you have the examples of East Germany, or North Korea, as opposed to West Germany and South Korea.

This certainly cannot be attributed to the foresight of the Allies, as the Soviets entered the war against Japan in response to the Allies importuning Stalin at Yalta. It was about the only commitment he kept, since he saw an opportunity for territorial aggrandizement. But it is an admittedly unforeseen and fortunate subsidiary result of the rapid end of the war.

The world was spared the future horror of nuclear combat thru the instructive example of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Had the wartime use of nuclear weapons remained theoretical, rather than concretely manifest in the vaporized victims of World War II, it is far more likely that they would have been used in super power showdowns at the Berlin Wall or the Cuban Missile Crisis. The example of the relative firecrackers of the WWII A-bombs may have stayed the fingers on the thermonuclear button. The planners of the Manhattan Project did not consider this , but it is something worthy of our consideration.

The extraordinary nature of the war against Japan requires that the jus en bello aspect of just war theory be considered in light of the extraordinary evils that were stopped or prevented by a sudden end to the war, bought about by the A Bomb. The Japanese could view it as a force of nature against which they were helpless to resist, and therefore serve as a legitimate rationale for surrender for a people that viewed that as an absolute disgrace. At the very least, the proportionality rule seems to be honored by using a horrendous method for the purpose of forcing an end to the war and stopping even greater continued slaughter and atrocity.

3, Jus post bello: Despite the unremitting nature of the total war against Japan and the unparallelled level of atrocities committed by Japan, it was not transformed into a post Punic Wars Carthage. The US extended it’s protections to her against the Soviet Union, demilitarized her, helped it to create a classically liberal representative democracy, with the emperor Hirohito demoted from demigod status. The US was instrumental in elevating Japan into a rehabilitated and respected player on the world stage, a leader in technological innovation and manufacture and a reliable ally against Soviet expansion in the Pacific. Even though considerable US self interest was involved, the US occupation of Japan was conducted with a magnanimity uncharacteristic of the likely aftermath of one of the most savage conflicts in human history. Even though the Japanese surrendered unconditionally, utterly defeated; they are a better world partner for the effect of the generous American peace terms and post war assistance. The Jus post bello criteria was more that adequately satisfied by the exemplary American post war treatment of Japan.

Finally, a word about Gen Tibbets. Before his service in the Pacific, Gen. Tibbets served with the 97th Bomb Group of the 8th Air Force. The 97th BG served as the model for the famous movie Twelve O’ Clock High. Tibbets, as a Major left in charge of the Group, was even depicted in the movie. Armstrong, the new CO of the 97th, appointed Tibbets his XO. He flew a B-17 bomber on 25 combat missions in the most deadly environment that American airmen have ever flown in, the flak and fighter filled skies of the European Theatre of Operations. He later took command of the 509th Composite Bomb Group, the B-29 outfit charged to deliver the atomic bombs. He bought the unit to a peak of efficiency and operational security, vital to maintaining the secrecy of the most important military technological development of the war. He stayed in the Air Force, and participated in the development of the B-47, our first all-jet bomber. In the early 1950’s, he flew B-47’s for three years. He advised on the making of the movie “Above and Beyond,” and was pleased that the famous actor, Robert Taylor, played him. From the 1950’s through the 1960’s he had a number of overseas assignments, including France and India. After his retirement from the Air Force, he became president of Executive Jet Aviation in Columbus, Ohio. For this he has earned the eternal respect and gratitude of his nation. He has not chosen to engage in post modern self flagellation and wear the hair shirt of eternal regret for doing his duty as it was presented to him. He has chosen to accept as his legacy the war ended and the lives saved by his actions rather than fixating on the awful human cost of the bombing. He had earned that right a hundred times over. He has said that he does not want a marker on his grave lest it serve as a focal point for demonstrators. That is the only thing that I disagree with him about. He deserves the honor of a proper memorial so that it may be rendered honors on appropriate occasions. Godspeed to you sir. You served your country and the world well.

24 posted on 08/06/2009 8:02:52 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: B-Chan

The extremes in beauty and talent often come from blends. But the bell curve is wider in both directions. It’s like unwrapping a surprise over a span of 20 years rather than knowing pretty much what you’re going to get ahead of time.

25 posted on 08/06/2009 8:03:11 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: B-Chan
Little Boy Boogie:

Wake up, Little Boy.
No, it's not for tests or school.
It's a lovely day to laugh and play,
and dance in the dust of Tehran.

Come on, sleepy head,
It's been such a long long while,
That the world's almost forgotten
The brilliance of your smile.

Let's fly on to Mecca,
We'll go skipping cross the dunes.
We'll have such fun, we'll outshine the Sun,
And shout echoes off the Moon.

My bright shining boyo,
You've been sleeping far too long.
Time to climb from your deep deep bed,
And sing your happy song.

Come open your present,
Take a look what you just got:
A brand new cobalt jacket!
Man, I tell you these are hot.

Little Boy, time to go now;
Bring your friend the Fat Man too.
We'll have such fun, we'll outshine the Sun,
And dance in the dust of Tehran.

Original by “NOOdleNogg1n” (FreeRepublic)
17 Sept 01

Adapted by BlueLancer (FreeRepublic)
6 Aug 09



Swear allegiance to the flag, whatever flag they offer;
Never hint at what you really feel.
Teach the children quietly for, someday, sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still.

Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK)

26 posted on 08/06/2009 8:06:51 AM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: BlueLancer


27 posted on 08/06/2009 10:30:30 AM PDT by B-Chan
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