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Accuse Your Victim Of What You’re Doing
Flopping Aces ^ | 08-06-09 | mlajoie2

Posted on 08/06/2009 5:51:23 PM PDT by Starman417

horakova
The picture above shows Milada Horakova, a really dangerous-looking elderly lady who was a Czech dissident put to death after a Soviet show trial simply for disagreeing

This is just a short observation on the White House’s campaign against the citizens’ anger expressed at Town Halls this month about Obama-care. Many have pointed out in the last 48 hours that this is a page right out of the Saul Alinsky ‘community organizing’ book: attack, mock and marginalize those who might stand in your way. That’s true enough. But its similarity to another Marxist tradition rang a bell with me.

In the Soviet Union, they used to have ‘show trials’. The victim was already doomed to death or gulag. The purpose was propaganda. In virtually all cases there was no truth whatsoever to the allegations, but Marxism is never about truth, it is about power. What was truly ironic about all this was that the secret state, the Comintern and the KGB actually did all the crimes of which the victims were accused and yet were innocent! The Soviets were the ones conspiring behind the scenes, intimidating, etc.

This knee-jerk reaction on the part of the White House betrays Marxist muscle memory. The SHOW TRIALS railroaded people by the dictum ‘Accuse the victim of what you’re doing’ and that’s exactly what they’re trying to do in these TOWN HALLS.

How interesting is it that the ‘community-organizer-in-chief’ and his forces are accusing the ordinary citizens at the town hall meetings of organized, disruptive behavior, of trying to achieve political ends by subversive means. Isn’t it painfully obvious that this behavior is at the very CORE of the identity of ACORN and all the other far-left activists who engage in ‘community organizing’?

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1 posted on 08/06/2009 5:51:23 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Thanks for the new tagline.


2 posted on 08/06/2009 5:53:29 PM PDT by MarMema (Marxism is never about truth, it is about power)
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To: Starman417
Accuse Your Victim Of What You’re Doing

Bingo. Time test. Reliable. Guaranteed to tell which mother is lying about the baby.

3 posted on 08/06/2009 5:54:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Starman417

Remember Hillary and her “vast right wing conspiracy”?


4 posted on 08/06/2009 5:55:03 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Starman417

Im telling you people are getting it now. I can feel it and see it suddenly every day.


5 posted on 08/06/2009 5:55:24 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: Starman417

Yep, spot on analysis. ACORN and unions are the kings of thug behavior and astroturfing. There was very little coordinated effort at these town hall meeting and mostly rationale albeit passionate speeches. For the Brown Shirt Media to be portraying these average people as organized mobs is ridiculous.


6 posted on 08/06/2009 5:56:36 PM PDT by Always Right (The Brown Shirt Media © is coming!)
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To: Starman417
I had been trying to figure out a way to obtain a copy of “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky, because it is the bible followed by Obama and his associates. I have been trying to get it without paying for it, and the copies at the library were backordered for months. To my surprise, one came in.

I am about a third of the way through “Rules for Radicals”, and I can assure you, reading it tells volumes about the people who profess to following it as a bible, especially the ones pushing this health care bill.

It explains a lot. And none of it is good.

I was going to dictate the entire thing and make an audiobook out of it to give to people such as myself who don’t want a single red cent to go to anyone associated with writing, printing or distributing that hideous work, but I couldn’t stomach hearing myself read it in a way that would make it easier on the ears to listen to (To put the inflection in the right places means you have to read it as if you believe it, and I gave up after one chapter.)

It is probably one of the most amoral, twisted works I have ever read. Given that Alinsky wrote a dedication to Lucifer, I shouldn’t be surprised. The dedication was taken out of later editions so as not to offend the clergy he was attempting to recruit, but the version I have still carries it.

From what I can see, reading this book enables one to understand what makes Obama (and his followers) tick.

The very FIRST paragraph exposes very clearly what they are all about:
"What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. 'The Prince' was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. 'Rules for Radicals' is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."

It is unrestricted class warfare, pure and simple. And it is the bible of Obama, Clinton, and many MANY others in this country.

7 posted on 08/06/2009 5:57:02 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Starman417

Yes, it’s blindingly obvious, and they’ve been doing it right here in the US for a long time. Just like when “tolerance” was the buzzword, but they meant tolerance towards every perversion that undermined American stability, not tolerance of viewpoint. You don’t hear so much tolerance right now, the usefulness of their point with it has just about been outlived. IOW, they’ve pretty much achieved what they wanted with that tangent. Pretty much everyone is “tolerated” now except Christians, they are the new scapegoats. Most children are in state schools, they will grow up with the liberal form of “tolerance”—acceptance of perversion, acceptance of guilt if white(and male, and above poverty level) and entitlement if not, but “separation of church and state” has been stretched to breaking point to become “isolation of Bible-believing Christians from all others”.


8 posted on 08/06/2009 6:01:10 PM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Starman417

“Dissent is Patriotic.” - Hillary Clinton. Screaming it into a mic.


9 posted on 08/06/2009 6:03:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: rlmorel

And people can dismiss that all this is leading to a one-world, ecumenical (until antichrist is indwelt) government? I never knew that he dedicated the book to Lucifer, but I’m really not surprised. Most of the people who support and advance this aren’t religious, aren’t they in for a surprise if they live long enough. Though they weren’t averse to worshipping Obamessiah.


10 posted on 08/06/2009 6:05:43 PM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Starman417

It’s not just ACORN. It’s the CEO (Chief Executive Organizer) himself:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309010/posts

“That’s why Organizing for America is putting together thousands of events this month where you can reach out to neighbors, show your support, and make certain your members of Congress know that you’re counting on them to act.”


11 posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:17 PM PDT by faq
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To: Starman417
"She was hanged in Pankrác Prison on 27 June 1950. She was 48 years old."

From Wikipedia.

May God Bless her soul.

12 posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:38 PM PDT by MarMema (Marxism is never about truth, it is about power)
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To: Secret Agent Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0


13 posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:39 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Many lge corp. successes started with a sm bus., an entrepreneur & a dream. 0 is killing that dream)
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To: Starman417

Let’s not forget that Obama pal Bill Ayers said 30,000,000 Americans would need to be eliminated in order for communism to be set up in America.


14 posted on 08/06/2009 6:07:01 PM PDT by stockpirate ("The time for talking is past, now is the time for taking action." Barack Obama 2008)
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To: faq

What is Organizing for America and where do I join?


15 posted on 08/06/2009 6:07:45 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Many lge corp. successes started with a sm bus., an entrepreneur & a dream. 0 is killing that dream)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

http://www.barackobama.com/


16 posted on 08/06/2009 6:09:17 PM PDT by faq
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To: Starman417

17 posted on 08/06/2009 6:09:17 PM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: MarMema

Amen. How can people not realise, with all the historical evidence, that any form of socialism is wicked and evil in its core? And is merely the scenic route to tyranny?


18 posted on 08/06/2009 6:09:47 PM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: McGruff

I wonder who your email goes to if you inadvertently send it to

FAG@whitehouse.gov ?

Barney Frank?


19 posted on 08/06/2009 6:12:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: stockpirate
Let’s not forget that Obama pal Bill Ayers said 30,000,000 Americans would need to be eliminated in order for communism to be set up in America.

Nonesense. It was only 25 million.

20 posted on 08/06/2009 6:14:52 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: faq

I was being silly.
I wouldn’t join that anything Obama.


21 posted on 08/06/2009 6:15:27 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Many lge corp. successes started with a sm bus., an entrepreneur & a dream. 0 is killing that dream)
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To: Jim Robinson; LucyT; autumnraine; The Sons of Liberty; Shady Ray; editor-surveyor; TexasRepublic; ..

Don’t want to miss this one! For those of us who write about the administrations machinations, be it in blog or other media, let us not forget the play book of the democrat party and especially barack obama and david axelgreasy. In the next couple of weeks, I suspect SEIU and ACORN hired muggery will be bussed into the townhall forums to create as much chaos as the axelgreasy astroturfing amchine can use. We must point it out when it happens and call it what it is, M A R X I S M on parade in America, via the DNC, aimed at sweeping away the Old Republic beofre American wake up and revolt.


22 posted on 08/06/2009 6:44:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rlmorel

“What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. ‘The Prince’ was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. ‘Rules for Radicals’ is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.”

It is unrestricted class warfare, pure and simple. And it is the bible of Obama, Clinton, and many MANY others in this country.

What edition do you have that has Lucifer in the dedication?


23 posted on 08/06/2009 6:48:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: MHGinTN; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...
Thanks, MHGinTN.

Accuse Your Victim Of What You’re Doing

24 posted on 08/06/2009 6:51:27 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Starman417
Psychologists call it projection. The current condemnation by the Democrats of the true grassroots protests that we are seeing against Obamacare is one of the best examples of projection you could ever have.
25 posted on 08/06/2009 6:54:06 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: McGruff

That’s awesome. Saved to desktop.


26 posted on 08/06/2009 6:54:53 PM PDT by Rugged Individual (Who is the world's smallest minority? I am. I am an individual.)
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To: LucyT; MHGinTN
Didn't Lenin say that or something similar?
27 posted on 08/06/2009 6:58:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Americans, just reading the bills and doing the jobs their representatives won't do)
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To: Chickensoup

Ugh. Timely question. I just finished reading that slimy piece of crap less than five minutes ago.

I have never worked harder at forcing myself to read a book. Never.

The version I got from the library is vintage books edition 1989. Interesting. Until you asked that question, I just assumed it was an older copy. Then, as I paid attention, there is a bar code on the back of the jacket.

So, they apparently felt it was fine to put the dedication to Lucifer back in this version.


28 posted on 08/06/2009 7:00:25 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: mrsmel
If you have never read it, here is the dedication:

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer"

I read this to my brother, who is pretty religious, and he looked at me with bewilderment and said "And someone thinks that is a great kingdom to win?"

The book is pretty hideous. I don't think I have ever felt so soiled just reading something before.

29 posted on 08/06/2009 7:04:58 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: rlmorel

This one?

Rules for Radicals (Vintage)
by Saul Alinsky

price: $10.22

Ships from MD, USA

add to wishlist
Edition: Reprint Binding: Softcover ISBN-13: 9780679721130 ISBN: 0679721134
Description: Good. [ No Hassle 30 Day Returns ] [ Underlining/Highlighting: NONE ] [ Writing: NONE ] [ Torn pages: NO ] [ Broken Seams: NO ] Publisher: Vintage Pub Date: 10/23/1989 Binding: Paperback Pages: 224. read more


30 posted on 08/06/2009 7:06:09 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Starman417
It's a comment attributed to both Lenin and Marx.

Google it

31 posted on 08/06/2009 7:11:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: rlmorel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2308852/posts


32 posted on 08/06/2009 7:12:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Chickensoup

The ISBN is the same...


33 posted on 08/06/2009 7:13:28 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: rlmorel
Here's an anecdote.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

34 posted on 08/06/2009 7:16:12 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: rlmorel

thanks


35 posted on 08/06/2009 7:23:19 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: hoosiermama

Here is the story on that, in case you misunderstood.

The original printings of the book had the dedication to Lucifer in it, but Alinsky had it removed in subsequent printings because he didn’t want to frighten off or alienate the churches, who he had complete contempt for, but liked using them as tools.

He needed the clergy, and thought the dedication would be an impediment to that end so he had it removed. It wasn’t due to pressure by the government or anything like that.


36 posted on 08/06/2009 7:27:46 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: 2Jedismom; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; ..

Another one of interest.


37 posted on 08/06/2009 8:00:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LucyT; MHGinTN

You kidding? MHGinTN is the master at it LOL!!


38 posted on 08/06/2009 8:01:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Got a link for you to enjoy this evening. Sam Vaknin explaining Obama's form of malignant narcissism. [ http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/Player.htm#0#1258 ]

Enjoy.

39 posted on 08/06/2009 8:10:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Starman417
‘Accuse the victim of what you’re doing’ and that’s exactly what they’re trying to do in these TOWN HALLS.

Great post. Do you know what happened to the Tampa Health Care thread?

40 posted on 08/06/2009 8:13:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN - Losers paid to protest ...The White House has an enemies list. Are you on it?)
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To: Starman417; MHGinTN

Thanks!

We already went through a more amateurish version of this plan with Klinton in the 90s. - Obama is considerably less intelligent, but far more ruthless, and ideologically committed. - His judgement is poor, but his determination is strong, and he has a powerful motive: His presidency is irrelevant if he loses this one.

Be ye prepared with video cams, phone cams, or whatever you have, to record the events, but take no overt action. - This is their war to lose; let’s let them lose it.


41 posted on 08/06/2009 8:16:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GOPJ
"Do you know what happened to the Tampa Health Care thread?"

This one?

42 posted on 08/06/2009 8:37:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

No there was one with over a hundred replies... great thread. It was pulled because it quoted from a banned newspaper chain... well, that’s what I heard..


43 posted on 08/06/2009 8:45:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN - Losers paid to protest ...The White House has an enemies list. Are you on it?)
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To: MHGinTN; Jim Robinson; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Thanks for the PING, MHGinTN.

I was discussing this with my Dad earlier today. He served in the Army during the Korean War, spent a lot of time in Germany and witnessed some of the aftermath of WW II.

Several months before the election Dad was drawing parallels between obozo and the Dems, and the tyrants of the twentieth century. As time has progressed he says the parallels are more painfully clear.

President Reagan left office exactly 20 years before obozo took office. It's almost unimaginable how far we've fallen from the great position the Gipper built for America.

God willing enough Americans will wake up before it's too late.

"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government" - Thomas Paine

44 posted on 08/06/2009 9:16:12 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Rahm Emmanuel.


45 posted on 08/06/2009 9:25:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: mrsmel

In that day, every knee will bow and every tongue confess - that Jesus Christ is LORD! Yes, those who didn’t in this life will be very surprised to see who they were actually following. There is no one who doesn’t belong to one of the kingdoms - even those who think they are neutral/non-believing/undecided.


46 posted on 08/06/2009 9:47:04 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Grizzled Bear

Self-Ping for later...


47 posted on 08/06/2009 9:49:30 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: anniegetyourgun

Amen! I could’ve expressed my thoughts more clearly-I meant that if the ones presently advancing this tyranny cloaked as socialism hate religion so much, and are so happy to see Bible-believing Christians shoved to the fringes of acceptable society, and eventually the only acceptable religion be one of “universalism”, won’t they be the most surprised of all one day. That day being the one when after all their characterising of Christianity as mere “myth” to be mocked, and religion as the opiate of the masses, they are forced to actually physically bow to a tangible being in the form of the antichrist. They tried to rid society of any vestige of real religion-I won’t even say Christianity, though that seems to be what threatens them the most-and then they themselves have to actually physically bend their knees before the antichrist or die. I won’t allow myself to relish their dismay, because once they do so and take his name/number, their eternal fate is sealed.


48 posted on 08/06/2009 9:58:36 PM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks, FRiend. Game on.


49 posted on 08/07/2009 4:03:10 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Starman417
brilliant catch here and this is what goes on all the time with the left.

They know just how to accuse us of anything they want be it inhibiting free speech,intimidation or whatever since they do it all the time.

50 posted on 08/07/2009 4:37:49 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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