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Does anyone have a link to an image of Obama's sister's birth certificate?
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Posted on 08/08/2009 12:17:08 PM PDT by meatloaf

I need the image to confirm the fact she has a Hawaiian birth certficate despite being born in Indonesia.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; maya; mayasoetoro; naturalborn; obamanoncitizenissue; soetoro

1 posted on 08/08/2009 12:17:08 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

That depends...what do you want it to say?


2 posted on 08/08/2009 12:18:04 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; maggief; BP2; pissant; Fred Nerks

Ping to folks who have answers to questions before they’re even asked.


3 posted on 08/08/2009 12:19:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama
Was she born in Indonesia?

I thought one of the controversies was that she had said that Obama was born at Queen Hospital, just like she was (when Obama had given the name of a different hospital)?

This is all so confusing sometimes.

4 posted on 08/08/2009 12:22:39 PM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: Dianna

Yep, I’m pretty sure that Maya Soetoro Ng was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. Supposedly her birth was also registered in Hawaii.


5 posted on 08/08/2009 12:43:18 PM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: meatloaf

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


6 posted on 08/08/2009 12:55:38 PM PDT by Dryman (Now, Back to Lurking)
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To: Dryman
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”

The totally transparent president wants his original authentic birth certificate sealed from everyone's eyes as well as his college documents which could show whether he is a "foreign" student. How can anyone believe anything he says if he cannot stand by his own promise to be "transparent." He's beginning to have a credibility problem that neither he nor his team of birther-bashers can overcome.

7 posted on 08/08/2009 1:11:42 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: meatloaf
Like you I think BO was not born in Hawaii.

However, I am now of the belief that even if Obama was force to produce it, then he would produce a fake Birth Certificate. The media is on his side and would cover for him. If they were not, then this would be easy.

Why could Obama not do that? This is the same government that prints money out of thin air. There is no gold standard anymore. If they can print money out of thin air, then they can print a phony Birth Certificate.

8 posted on 08/08/2009 1:33:04 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: meatloaf

Wasn’t her Hawaiian certification reported to be the one used as a backdrop to build Obama’s certification that he had on his website?


9 posted on 08/08/2009 1:43:00 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: iontheball
Wasn’t her Hawaiian certification reported to be the one used as a backdrop to build Obama’s certification that he had on his website?

Yes. But the lack of any actual images of her COLB on the web makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't just wishful thinking on the Right.

IF she was born in Indonesia and IF she has a Hawaiian COLB and IF it's like Obama's then at the very least it makes his COLB worthless as proof of his having been born in Hawaii.

10 posted on 08/08/2009 2:29:16 PM PDT by Grut
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To: hoosiermama; meatloaf

HA! I’ve tried to explain that one many times...suffice it to say that who-ever attempted to show that zero’s forgery was based on Maya’s CoLB has been totally discredited.


11 posted on 08/08/2009 3:02:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Grut
IF she was born in Indonesia and IF she has a Hawaiian COLB and IF it's like Obama's then at the very least it makes his COLB worthless as proof of his having been born in Hawaii.

Hers, if she has one, probably says she was born in Indonesia. The faked image of O'Brat's says he was born in Honolulu. But it's only a faked image, so who cares what it says?

12 posted on 08/08/2009 3:34:15 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: iontheball

Supposedly it was. As that was claimed, does an image if her birth certificate exist? And ... has anyone posted her a copy of Indonesian birth registry?


13 posted on 08/08/2009 4:00:05 PM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: meatloaf

bump


14 posted on 08/08/2009 4:57:25 PM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: meatloaf; MissTickly

There was an application for Maya’s marriage license posted on this site about 2 weeks ago indicating her birthplace as Indonesia. (I saved the image). I have been hearing for a year that she has a Hawaiian BC but I have never seen any evidence of this. This Free Republic member (”Miss Tickly”) has issued several Freedom Of Information Act (called “UIPA” in HI) requests for BO’s original vital records and is very well versed in the statutory rights by which one can request such info. However, the HI Health Dept is treating the messiah’s records with “special executive clemency” that we might never get to the bottom of this without someone suing these Health Dept officials “individually” or kidnapping their kids ! (said in jest, or course).

I don’t know if anyone ever requested Maya’s certificate. I thought of requesting it from Janice Okubo (they DO return e-mails), but who knows if they will fulfill ANY requests regarding the “king of the Chicago thugs” or his relatives !


15 posted on 08/08/2009 8:14:08 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: meatloaf

“Does anyone have a link to an image of Obama’s sister’s birth certificate?”

*************

The short answer is: There ain’t none. Nor has anyone testified to seeing any Hawaiian document stating Hawaii as the birthplace of Obama’s sister. The notion of “Maya Soetoro-Ng has a Hawaii COLB” is just another birther fumble returned for a touchdown. Nobody asked the obvious question “How do you know?”. Asking birthers for evidence of their assertions is guaranteed to get you labeled a troll, an Obot, or even a traitor. Obama must be the luckiest person alive. With enemies like the birthers, you don’t need friends.


16 posted on 08/08/2009 10:06:23 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: iontheball

...another newbie... I wonder why so many new people comment on the BC story? /sarc


17 posted on 08/08/2009 11:41:44 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: El Gato
When was the time frame when the first questions started of where Obama was born ? ... was it during his Senator campaign ? or was it until people started to question his eligibility to be President of the USA ? and when did his fake COLB so happen to show up ?
You know when someone is lying when their facts, stories don't line up, or to many happenstances.
18 posted on 08/09/2009 4:46:06 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Redwood Bob
I still have not been able to find one for her. Before I asked the question, I thought she had an Hawaiian COLB. It is amazing how these things get embedded as fact. Missteps like that really hurt.
19 posted on 08/09/2009 6:12:42 AM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: meatloaf

No one has ever seen her COLB...and, no, there is no proof that it was used in the making of Obama’s bogus COLB, which required two COLBs to produce. Who were the owners of them is pretty much irrelevant.


20 posted on 08/09/2009 6:54:02 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

It began back in April 2007 shortly after Obama announced his candidacy for the Presidency. Conversely, questions about John McCains’ birth origins began in 1998, and resurfaced in 2004 before resurfacing again in January 2008.

The New York Times did run a story on McCains eligibility issue, but now, the MSM has not even said a single word about McCain’s attack by libtard Birthers, the lawsuit against McCain by Hollander that he was not an NBC, OR that the Senate unanimously passed a resolution proclaiming McCain a natural-born citizen.

The Libtards were the original “Birthers,” yet not a single word of criticism has ever been said about them.

The Media need this brought to their attention, and asked, “Was the attack on McCain’s citizenship a rightwing extremist conspiracy?”


21 posted on 08/09/2009 7:01:25 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik
Thank you for the information...

What information did Obama , his people, and the MSM put out about Obama's questionable birth place and is it the same as now ? or were they more transparent then today ?
22 posted on 08/09/2009 11:50:06 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
"When was the time frame when the first questions started of where Obama was born ?"

If you're asking when the hubbub actually started, I can give you the precise date: June 9, 2008. The date Jim Geraghty of the National Review suggested that Obama release his birth certificate. A lot of blogs picked up that story and ran with it; there were dozens of blog sites repeating the rumor within a couple of days.

Geraghty didn't make the rumor up himself, however. His (one) source for the rumor was an April 2008 Snopes forum thread. And that thread was based on an "article" like this one, which mentions a Kenyan birth as something of an afterthought toward the bottom (after 68 other things).

Basically, talk of a foreign birth and cover-up for Obama PRIOR to June 9, 2008 was pretty much limited to a dozen or so scattered online mentions in blogs and comments (usually as a side-mention in a longer post, not even as the subject of its own post), going back to about March 2008. A little over a year after Obama declared his candidacy.

Somebody else suggested April 2007 as the starting point, but I haven't seen anything to support that early a date. You can find the occasional earlier random post claiming that Obama was "from Kenya," but those all appear to be mistakes of fact on the part of the poster, not specific claims that the Hawaiian birth was falsified. (In other words, the equivalent of someone erroneously saying that George W. Bush was born in Texas.)

Basically, unless someone can actually produce a source showing where Obama's birthplace was questioned prior to March 2008, I wouldn't put much stake in it. I'm not saying it's impossible (there's a lot of web out there), but it certainly didn't attract much attention. The attention didn't come until June 2008.

And to illustrate that a little, this thread is the earliest Obama-related thread at FR to be tagged with 'birthcertificate' or 'certifigate.' It's a thread about a June 10, 2008 michellemalkin.com post that was directly in response to Jim Geraghty's post. If the questions had already been around for a year, don't you imagine that there would have been at least *one* FR thread on the subject?

23 posted on 08/09/2009 11:57:41 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Nothing has changed in over a year’s time.


24 posted on 08/09/2009 12:00:57 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: LorenC

And when did the fake COLB show up from the liberals may I ask ? ... if it was around June... then ? .. don’t you see what I am getting at ? Poof ... it some how shows up out of nowere .... happenstances...


25 posted on 08/09/2009 12:11:51 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
"And when did the fake COLB show up from the liberals may I ask ?"

Geraghty posted on June 9, saying "Obama Could Debunk Some Rumors By Releasing His Birth Certificate."

The COLB first appeared online three days later, on June 12.

As both posts mention, there was another rumor going around about Obama's middle name, and that was another reason it was suggested that a birth certificate be released. And that rumor, about the middle name, DID engender a lot of talk online before June 2008, but I think it only dated back to December 2007 or so.

26 posted on 08/09/2009 12:24:55 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: meatloaf

Bump for more eyes.


27 posted on 08/09/2009 9:19:15 PM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: meatloaf

Last bump for info.


28 posted on 08/10/2009 9:03:20 AM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: Fred Nerks

I think I saw comments somewhere that Obama’s COLB was generated from Maya’s COLB (implications that a bleed-through of her info. could still be seen on his COLB.) Instead of emphasizing Maya has a COLB, the post cleverly was emphasizing an “explanation” as to how Obama’s supporterscwould have had access to a blank COLB in order to produce their phony document. I never did see a copy of Maya’s COLB online, however.


29 posted on 08/16/2009 7:57:54 PM PDT by MARY S-FL
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To: MARY S-FL

And I never saw a copy of Maya’s CoLB either...I did, however, once see a copy of what was maintained was her Census form...but have not been able to find it again.

That ‘Maya CoLB’ story has been discredited. Often.


30 posted on 08/16/2009 8:02:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: meatloaf
I think this site had it but I am not positive:
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13040.htm

I did search for that article looking for a Cached page at Google but I can not find it there either.

31 posted on 08/20/2009 9:28:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
There never was a Hawaiian COLB for Maya. Nor was there ever a reliable source that claimed to have seen one or verified that one existed.

The original source for the 'Maya's Hawaiian COLB' claim was none other than TechDude, in conjunction with a commenter named "KG" on TexasDarlin's blog.

TechDude (discredited a year ago now) wrote "For a quick preview – the original COLB used to create the KOS COLB image belongs to a female and does not belong to Obama. Another follow up report will reveal exactly who the original underlying COLB did belong to. Trust me when I tell you it is going to be one hell of a major twist that no one would have seen coming."

"KG" then replied in comments:

KG // August 4, 2008 at 8:45 pm Holy crap. I’ve just duplicated the effort. It’s Maya’s - Maya Kassandra Soetoro. Her name fits perfectly in the artifacts.
Followed by this comment from TechDude:
techdude // August 5, 2008 at 12:06 am Congrats KG (I really wanted to play online all night but I am exhausted and will reply more in the AM)
TexasDarlin, unfortunately, moved all her TechDude-related posts to a private archive, so I can't link directly to the thread in question. However, I *can* link to the FR thread that discussed and quoted the TD thread.

About a week after this, TechDude was publicly exposed and recognized as a fraud, as even Israel Insider reported. "KG" more or less disappeared into the ether, never publishing anything about the name 'discovery.' No one else ever subsequently claimed independent knowledge of a COLB for Maya.

So even though TechDude was discredited, somehow this 'fact' of his has managed to take on a life of its own. I think people simply forgot that a known fraud was the original source for this bit of fiction.

32 posted on 08/24/2009 10:40:39 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC

Unfortunately I believe you are correct and this does give the ‘birthers’ a bad name. But can you tell me, could someone that is born over seas get this same document?


33 posted on 08/24/2009 10:57:08 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“When was the time frame when the first questions started of where Obama was born ? “

Just a small point ... Obama stated his story of where he was born in the autobiography “Dreams of my father” back in 1995.

And he had to have a birth certificate to travel overseas to Kenya prior to that time.

So assertions and proofs of birthplace was not a new thing in 2007.


34 posted on 08/31/2009 12:45:41 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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