Skip to comments.Does anyone have a link to an image of Obama's sister's birth certificate?
Posted on 08/08/2009 12:17:08 PM PDT by meatloaf
I need the image to confirm the fact she has a Hawaiian birth certficate despite being born in Indonesia.
That depends...what do you want it to say?
Ping to folks who have answers to questions before they’re even asked.
I thought one of the controversies was that she had said that Obama was born at Queen Hospital, just like she was (when Obama had given the name of a different hospital)?
This is all so confusing sometimes.
Yep, I’m pretty sure that Maya Soetoro Ng was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. Supposedly her birth was also registered in Hawaii.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
The totally transparent president wants his original authentic birth certificate sealed from everyone's eyes as well as his college documents which could show whether he is a "foreign" student. How can anyone believe anything he says if he cannot stand by his own promise to be "transparent." He's beginning to have a credibility problem that neither he nor his team of birther-bashers can overcome.
However, I am now of the belief that even if Obama was force to produce it, then he would produce a fake Birth Certificate. The media is on his side and would cover for him. If they were not, then this would be easy.
Why could Obama not do that? This is the same government that prints money out of thin air. There is no gold standard anymore. If they can print money out of thin air, then they can print a phony Birth Certificate.
Wasn’t her Hawaiian certification reported to be the one used as a backdrop to build Obama’s certification that he had on his website?
Yes. But the lack of any actual images of her COLB on the web makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't just wishful thinking on the Right.
IF she was born in Indonesia and IF she has a Hawaiian COLB and IF it's like Obama's then at the very least it makes his COLB worthless as proof of his having been born in Hawaii.
HA! I’ve tried to explain that one many times...suffice it to say that who-ever attempted to show that zero’s forgery was based on Maya’s CoLB has been totally discredited.
Hers, if she has one, probably says she was born in Indonesia. The faked image of O'Brat's says he was born in Honolulu. But it's only a faked image, so who cares what it says?
Supposedly it was. As that was claimed, does an image if her birth certificate exist? And ... has anyone posted her a copy of Indonesian birth registry?
There was an application for Maya’s marriage license posted on this site about 2 weeks ago indicating her birthplace as Indonesia. (I saved the image). I have been hearing for a year that she has a Hawaiian BC but I have never seen any evidence of this. This Free Republic member (”Miss Tickly”) has issued several Freedom Of Information Act (called “UIPA” in HI) requests for BO’s original vital records and is very well versed in the statutory rights by which one can request such info. However, the HI Health Dept is treating the messiah’s records with “special executive clemency” that we might never get to the bottom of this without someone suing these Health Dept officials “individually” or kidnapping their kids ! (said in jest, or course).
I don’t know if anyone ever requested Maya’s certificate. I thought of requesting it from Janice Okubo (they DO return e-mails), but who knows if they will fulfill ANY requests regarding the “king of the Chicago thugs” or his relatives !
“Does anyone have a link to an image of Obama’s sister’s birth certificate?”
The short answer is: There ain’t none. Nor has anyone testified to seeing any Hawaiian document stating Hawaii as the birthplace of Obama’s sister. The notion of “Maya Soetoro-Ng has a Hawaii COLB” is just another birther fumble returned for a touchdown. Nobody asked the obvious question “How do you know?”. Asking birthers for evidence of their assertions is guaranteed to get you labeled a troll, an Obot, or even a traitor. Obama must be the luckiest person alive. With enemies like the birthers, you don’t need friends.
...another newbie... I wonder why so many new people comment on the BC story? /sarc
No one has ever seen her COLB...and, no, there is no proof that it was used in the making of Obama’s bogus COLB, which required two COLBs to produce. Who were the owners of them is pretty much irrelevant.
It began back in April 2007 shortly after Obama announced his candidacy for the Presidency. Conversely, questions about John McCains’ birth origins began in 1998, and resurfaced in 2004 before resurfacing again in January 2008.
The New York Times did run a story on McCains eligibility issue, but now, the MSM has not even said a single word about McCain’s attack by libtard Birthers, the lawsuit against McCain by Hollander that he was not an NBC, OR that the Senate unanimously passed a resolution proclaiming McCain a natural-born citizen.
The Libtards were the original “Birthers,” yet not a single word of criticism has ever been said about them.
The Media need this brought to their attention, and asked, “Was the attack on McCain’s citizenship a rightwing extremist conspiracy?”
If you're asking when the hubbub actually started, I can give you the precise date: June 9, 2008. The date Jim Geraghty of the National Review suggested that Obama release his birth certificate. A lot of blogs picked up that story and ran with it; there were dozens of blog sites repeating the rumor within a couple of days.
Geraghty didn't make the rumor up himself, however. His (one) source for the rumor was an April 2008 Snopes forum thread. And that thread was based on an "article" like this one, which mentions a Kenyan birth as something of an afterthought toward the bottom (after 68 other things).
Basically, talk of a foreign birth and cover-up for Obama PRIOR to June 9, 2008 was pretty much limited to a dozen or so scattered online mentions in blogs and comments (usually as a side-mention in a longer post, not even as the subject of its own post), going back to about March 2008. A little over a year after Obama declared his candidacy.
Somebody else suggested April 2007 as the starting point, but I haven't seen anything to support that early a date. You can find the occasional earlier random post claiming that Obama was "from Kenya," but those all appear to be mistakes of fact on the part of the poster, not specific claims that the Hawaiian birth was falsified. (In other words, the equivalent of someone erroneously saying that George W. Bush was born in Texas.)
Basically, unless someone can actually produce a source showing where Obama's birthplace was questioned prior to March 2008, I wouldn't put much stake in it. I'm not saying it's impossible (there's a lot of web out there), but it certainly didn't attract much attention. The attention didn't come until June 2008.
And to illustrate that a little, this thread is the earliest Obama-related thread at FR to be tagged with 'birthcertificate' or 'certifigate.' It's a thread about a June 10, 2008 michellemalkin.com post that was directly in response to Jim Geraghty's post. If the questions had already been around for a year, don't you imagine that there would have been at least *one* FR thread on the subject?
Nothing has changed in over a year’s time.
And when did the fake COLB show up from the liberals may I ask ? ... if it was around June... then ? .. don’t you see what I am getting at ? Poof ... it some how shows up out of nowere .... happenstances...
Geraghty posted on June 9, saying "Obama Could Debunk Some Rumors By Releasing His Birth Certificate."
The COLB first appeared online three days later, on June 12.
As both posts mention, there was another rumor going around about Obama's middle name, and that was another reason it was suggested that a birth certificate be released. And that rumor, about the middle name, DID engender a lot of talk online before June 2008, but I think it only dated back to December 2007 or so.
Bump for more eyes.
Last bump for info.
I think I saw comments somewhere that Obama’s COLB was generated from Maya’s COLB (implications that a bleed-through of her info. could still be seen on his COLB.) Instead of emphasizing Maya has a COLB, the post cleverly was emphasizing an “explanation” as to how Obama’s supporterscwould have had access to a blank COLB in order to produce their phony document. I never did see a copy of Maya’s COLB online, however.
And I never saw a copy of Maya’s CoLB either...I did, however, once see a copy of what was maintained was her Census form...but have not been able to find it again.
That ‘Maya CoLB’ story has been discredited. Often.
I did search for that article looking for a Cached page at Google but I can not find it there either.
The original source for the 'Maya's Hawaiian COLB' claim was none other than TechDude, in conjunction with a commenter named "KG" on TexasDarlin's blog.
TechDude (discredited a year ago now) wrote "For a quick preview the original COLB used to create the KOS COLB image belongs to a female and does not belong to Obama. Another follow up report will reveal exactly who the original underlying COLB did belong to. Trust me when I tell you it is going to be one hell of a major twist that no one would have seen coming."
"KG" then replied in comments:
KG // August 4, 2008 at 8:45 pm Holy crap. Ive just duplicated the effort. Its Mayas - Maya Kassandra Soetoro. Her name fits perfectly in the artifacts.Followed by this comment from TechDude:
techdude // August 5, 2008 at 12:06 am Congrats KG (I really wanted to play online all night but I am exhausted and will reply more in the AM)TexasDarlin, unfortunately, moved all her TechDude-related posts to a private archive, so I can't link directly to the thread in question. However, I *can* link to the FR thread that discussed and quoted the TD thread.
About a week after this, TechDude was publicly exposed and recognized as a fraud, as even Israel Insider reported. "KG" more or less disappeared into the ether, never publishing anything about the name 'discovery.' No one else ever subsequently claimed independent knowledge of a COLB for Maya.
So even though TechDude was discredited, somehow this 'fact' of his has managed to take on a life of its own. I think people simply forgot that a known fraud was the original source for this bit of fiction.
Unfortunately I believe you are correct and this does give the ‘birthers’ a bad name. But can you tell me, could someone that is born over seas get this same document?
“When was the time frame when the first questions started of where Obama was born ? “
Just a small point ... Obama stated his story of where he was born in the autobiography “Dreams of my father” back in 1995.
And he had to have a birth certificate to travel overseas to Kenya prior to that time.
So assertions and proofs of birthplace was not a new thing in 2007.
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