Posted on 08/11/2009 10:13:55 AM PDT by Maelstorm
Sarah Palin's charge healthcare reform would lead to government run "death panels" is simply "nuts," Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) said today.
In an interview with Ezra Klein, Isakson said that aspects of the legislation that deal with end-of-life planning have nothing to do with euthanasia.
Here's the relevant section:
Q: How did this become a question of euthanasia?
ISAKSON: I have no idea. I understand — and you have to check this out — I just had a phone call where someone said Sarah Palin's web site had talked about the House bill having death panels on it where people would be euthanized. How someone could take an end of life directive or a living will as that is nuts. You're putting the authority in the individual rather than the government. I don't know how that got so mixed up.
Q: You're saying that this is not a question of government. It's for individuals.
ISAKSON: It empowers you to be able to make decisions at a difficult time rather than having the government making them for you.
Q: The policy here as I understand it is that Medicare would cover a counseling session with your doctor on end-of-life options.
ISAKSON: Correct. And it's a voluntary deal.
Sarah Palin had written on her Facebook page that the House healthcare legisltion would lead to government "death panels" deciding which members of society were productive enough to receive healthcare.
(Excerpt) Read more at briefingroom.thehill.com ...
Here is this disgraceful Republican’s web site.
http://isakson.senate.gov/
Isakson owes Sarah and apology! She said nothing about euthanasia. He is as bad as Obama, opening his mouth without getting the facts!
GRRRR!
Sarah-cuda is shining a spotlight on the evil!
Have you dontated to SarahPAC yet? I have..... twice!
It empowers you to be able to make decisions at a difficult time
We need to turn over health care to the Federal Government to accomplish this?
That is not even the portion of the bill Palin was talking about. She was talking about the panels set up to decide who gets what procedures and at what point providing procedures to people is not cost efficient.
We have a lot of stupid people in D.C.
Vote for this piece of literal garbage legislation/bill Mr. Isakson and be assured, you will find out what “nuts” means.
What an ass. Sarah was not even talking about end of life planning or euthanasia. She was talking about the rationing of health care that will need to take place. Idiot RINO, talking from the Howard Dean/DNC talking points.
What an ass. Sarah was not even talking about end of life planning or euthanasia. She was talking about the rationing of health care that will need to take place. Idiot RINO, talking from the Howard Dean/DNC talking points.
Excellent point! What’s he talking about?? I now have the power to make these decisions. I don’t need the gubmint to help me. Ahhhh...these guys all need the boot.
I’d get rid of Isakson in a flash. He’s a ditz, a RINO and only occasionally votes conservative.
Vote Herman Cain!!!!!
Yes I have and will continue to. Sarah needs to keep speaking out. The time for soft spoken words and men speaking language dressed in skirts and lies must end. If anyone thinks these horrible Anti-American Health Care and Cap and Trade plans are just an innocent attempt to help people they are nuts. It is about control and domination. These guys see themselves as lords with the right of plunder. Well the plunder is going to stop.
Congressman Isakson: You are acting stupidly. Sarah Palin wasx NOT referring to EoL provisions in HR3200. She was referring to the establishment of the board that will determine the “standards” of health care provisioning. IOW, the calculations that will determine whether a person applying for benefits qualifies as being worth the expense of the benefits requested.
That board will be making decisions that WILL mean many people will die after being rejected for benefits.
Yeah, it’s not about the government making these decisions for you, it’s about the gov’t helping you to make these decisions. riiiiiight Johnny. Dork.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo
“Sometimes “WE” need to say, maybe you should take a pain pill”
Herman Cain now that would be an improvement! We see in individuals like the clear demonstration that they are completely comfortable with the beast that is our government. The beast needs to be put down.
She was also referring to Ezekial Emmanuel and what he said in his book about the elderly. I never heard of this fool Isakson, but just another RINO that needs to be kicked out of the GOP
LLS
GA ping
ISAKSON: It empowers you to be able to make decisions at a difficult time rather than having the government making them for you.
The bill specifically references cessation of nutrition & hydration - a deliberate terminal act.
Another who hasn’t bothered to read the bills but thinks they know what is in it. The “mandatory” part of it makes the government inject themselves into it!
Don’t blame me! I voted for Hermann Cain!
Geeez, someone needs to remind the good rep the sainted Renaldus Magnus’s Eleventh Amendment...
Oh CRIPES! I meant COMMANDMENT...too quick on the post button....no more coffee....
Isakson made a fortune in real estate. Then he decided he wanted to be in politics. Over the years he has run for (and lost) just about every major political office in GA (talk about not being willing to start at the bottom) using his own money to back his campaigns.
He used to be very liberal for GA (strongly pro-choice, etc...) Finally flip-flopped his positions and managed to get elected to the senate.
If you know Mitt Romney, you know Johnny Isakson.
A rich guy that thinks he is entitled, his core convictions lean a little left, but says whatever he needs to get elected.
Isakson is part of the problem. He rarely sticks his neck out to push conservative issues (or any other for that matter), instead just keeps his head down, stays non-controversial, and looks forward to getting elected again.
LOL...I think he just got controversial.
When we turn out those clones who vote for this monstrosity in 2010, we’ll then see who was more believable....Palin or Isakson
Point 1 - The good Senator needs to look at this from a broad spectrum. President Obama has discussed at length the ‘need’ for IMAC - the ‘independant’ (appointed) board who will decide what care is and is not acceptable care, testing, or treatment regardless of your own doctor’s opinion. The equivalent board in our more ‘progressive’ friend nations routinely determines acceptability of care by cost, age, and survivability.
Point 2 - When the doctor calls and tells a senior that their ‘counseling’ session is due most seniors will make the appointment and the doctor will get paid for the visit. The doctors who will be performing such counseling are the doctors operating within the ‘system’ and bound by the dictates of the IMAC.
Thus we get a potentially nefarious circle of advice, care, and government dictates. And that, Sir, is unacceptable in America. We don’t want systems where our only failsafe is trusting the government. That is not freedom - that is not America!
I agree they will find out.
Checking a new tagline.... this post is basically gibberish
They are irrelevant. Here is the point that these idiots don’t seem to understand that the left understands far too well. You don’t defeat our political enemies by playing nice or meeting them in the middle. Actually that is how liberty, and conservatism is repeatedly defeated because each time they move the line and if any one of these idiots who claim to be conservative are not alarmed but the beast that has risen in Washington D.C. then they are not fit to be allies.
We have a government that has, in effect, sanctioned the murder of 50,000,000 unborn babies. That the government would set up death panels for other "undesirables" is not only not nuts but quite possible. (and with the obama crowd running things, highly probable)
You have that right. Socialized medicine is the nail in the coffin of liberty. People who support it seem to think they will pay nothing for it. They will pay with their very souls before the beast is done.
There is an old saying, that if a squirrel ran up a politicians pant leg he would come back empty handed.
He is my Senator. I just called his office and gave them both barrels.
You are so correct Senator Johnny Isakson, obviously, contrary to Obama's own stated views, the government required end of life counseling will be used the reassure patients that nothing will be spared to help them as their health declines.
/S
Isakson has always been the simple-minded “little brother” of Saxby Chambliss and neither one of them is worth a bucket of spit. Isakson is up for re-election next year, but unfortunately, he probably won’t have any competition in the primaries, and it will come down to a choice between him and some dim like Cynthia McKinney.
Thank you!
Johnny Isakson now trying to back away from his comment about Sarah Palin by denying he said her name.
That is just great. lol They think we are not watching or listening. Some of us run interference for them but I’m done with that. They need to stop collaborating with the media and thinking we will just chalk it up to the venue.
Creator-endowed life and liberty are authentic ideas, which, when protected by a written "people's" constitution limiting the power of their government, become a reality for millions of oppressed people from all the world. Witness America for its first 200 years!
Allowing silver-tongued orators to supplant "the people" and their constitutional limits on coercive government power by offering promises of handouts for all is a counterfeit idea and has led to oppressive taxation, debt, and slavery of people wherever it has been allowed.
Reagan understood that the "beacon of liberty" relies on enduring principles, called by the Founders, "self-evident" truths. More importantly, he could articulate those ideas!
Palin can read, study, and understand them. The fact that she has Levin's "Tyranny and Liberty" is a start, but there's nothing like reading the voluminous writings of the Founders themselves (available online) for incorporating them into one's own vocabulary.
If she does that, all the Far Left proponents of the "counterfeit ideas" will not be able to stop her from having a positive impact on the future of America!
She must be able to delineate and clarify, as Reagan did, why "socialized" medicine, for instance, is in opposition to America's founding principles, explaining the perhaps "unintended consequences" of allowing any government in the world to have that much power over the lives and property of its citizens. There is liberty for individuals, and then there is tyranny over individuals.
Oh, and by the way, since they're reading her Facebook page, maybe she ought to post some of the Founders' words on her page. That may be the only some will ever be exposed to intelligent discourse!
I like that term. That would make a great campain theme.
I bet Saxby Chamblis gave mister Isakson a phone call and let him have it!!
Yep exactly per post #34. Idiots like Romney and Pawlenty talk about “slowing it down” instead of fighting this outright. I’m tired of Republicans playing this stupid game because it still advances the Left’s goals.
Exactly. We need to get away from the middle ground because with Socialism there is no middle ground. Tyranny can not coexist with liberty.
As Newt has pointed out, the house bill authorizes multi-layered bureaucracies, and empowers them to make new regulations on who gets what treatment. Nobody can honestly say they know what they will decide, but the guidelines in the bill, combined with every real life experience indicates life saving treatments will be denied to people based on the regulations they impose.
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