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A degree is not a golden ticket to escape crappy jobs!
NewsReal Blog ^ | August 12, 2009 | David Swindle

Posted on 08/12/2009 6:13:32 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative

It looks like Andrew Sullivan is taking a break from daily blogging. His assistants and other assorted bloggers are taking his place in manning the Daily Dish.

Chris Bodenner highlighted the thoughts of two readers on “The Value of Shi**y Work.” The sentiment of this is one that I find really, really annoying:

To the people who say that the unemployed should accept menial jobs, I would say… why should I? Speaking from personal experience, I put in 4 years getting an undergraduate degree and 2 years getting a professional certification so that I wouldn’t have to work in a warehouse. From an economic standpoint, does it make sense to force talented workers into dead-end jobs just to survive? Or to give them a safety net, and let them find a job more suited to their skills?

Why should you? Why should you?

Bodenner’s reader’s comment infuriates me far more than anything that Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, or Rachel Maddow has said in the past few weeks.

Why should you get a job to support yourself? Why should you take responsibility to support yourself and earn a living? Why is it that just because you have a bachelor’s degree perhaps you are not entitled to your dream job as soon as you graduate?

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: healthcare; responsibility
I've been wanting to say this for awhile now.
1 posted on 08/12/2009 6:13:35 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative

The problem is that the bursting of the higher education bubble is fueling the drive to outright socialism. People have been sold since childhood on the idea that you spend years and years in school and then get rewarded with a job that pays you back for the effort. Many are now finding out what a crock that line of thinking is and feel that, since (in their minds) they’ve gotten the shaft, they’re going to get what they need no matter how they do it—even if it means using the power of government to loot the fortunes of others.


2 posted on 08/12/2009 6:19:51 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
My first job after getting my degree was cleaning other people's homes and that meant scrubbing a lot of toilets that were NOT mine for $11.00 an hour. I had to eat and pay the rent, oh yeah and buy gas. No one was paying my bills. Mom and Dad cut me off--LOL. Good for them! I whined about it and a friend said then apply for other jobs (which I did) and eventually a higher position came open and then a month later a gold mine job came through and all that happened because I took the first job. It motivated me honestly to get a better job that I did the footwork to get to get to the next rung and then the next.

Boy do I do a killer toilet clean now though. :-D. I know how to clean my own house very well and very fast as a result of taking that job. College taught me discipline and follow through more than anything else.

3 posted on 08/12/2009 6:22:26 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: HorowitzianConservative
well, if you majored in some Bullsh!t Studies program, you're prolly not smart enough to get a job in a warehouse...
4 posted on 08/12/2009 6:48:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

considering a 4 yr degree today is equivalent to a High School Education 30 yr ago, we are in a sad state of affairs.


5 posted on 08/12/2009 6:52:20 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: GOP Poet
Amen.

If my professors could have seen me at my first job after degree they would have been ashamed (maybe).

My first day on the job I took a pick and chipped off solidified sulfur that had overfilled a storage tank filled with molten sulfur.

I had a engineering degree for goodness sakes but I also had responsibilities.

Anyway 7 months later that job at the chemical plant (shift work no less) led to another job (at a steel mill) and that job to another (at a chemical plant) led to my current job as a manager of a group of 10 engineers, and now I make double the median wage in my area.

I attribute some of where I am at to that first job, after college of chipping sulfur off the concrete.

The best way to get job is to have a job.

Until the dork in this article understands this he will sit around go nowhere.

Best way to get a promotion is to work at projects even if you think they are beneath you. Work where the work is even if it is in your own department.

6 posted on 08/12/2009 6:57:17 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: GOP Poet
Amen.

If my professors could have seen me at my first job after degree they would have been ashamed (maybe).

My first day on the job I took a pick and chipped off solidified sulfur that had overfilled a storage tank filled with molten sulfur.

I had a engineering degree for goodness sakes but I also had responsibilities.

Anyway 7 months later that job at the chemical plant (shift work no less) led to another job (at a steel mill) and that job to another (at a chemical plant) led to my current job as a manager of a group of 10 engineers, and now I make double the median wage in my area.

I attribute some of where I am at to that first job, after college of chipping sulfur off the concrete.

The best way to get job is to have a job.

Until the dork in this article understands this he will sit around go nowhere.

Best way to get a promotion is to work at projects even if you think they are beneath you. Work where the work is even if it is in your own department.

7 posted on 08/12/2009 6:57:27 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: GreyMountainReagan

sorry about the double post.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

after I hit post the first time I got an error so.....blah, blah, blah....

anyway,

sorry.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 7:19:50 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: eyeamok
i heard that...
9 posted on 08/12/2009 7:24:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
I know way too many people who think this way. I don't necessarily like them, but I've met them. lol

Degrees are great and all, but I've known degree'd people who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag.

I helped put my husband through college for his degree, but if anything were to happen to his job, he's got other skills he could employ. Neither of us are too proud.

10 posted on 08/12/2009 8:19:47 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: GOP Poet

haha...I’m doing everything backwards. Before kids, I was an executive secretary in a canned air corporate office. I currently clean a couple house each week to “keep busy” and work around the kids’ schedules. I’m thinking about going back to college in a few years....not sure. lol


11 posted on 08/12/2009 8:21:48 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: Chode

This reminds me of that scene in the movie “Defiance” where the guy states his skills as “Intellectual.” The other guy looks at him like WTH?


12 posted on 08/12/2009 8:24:05 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

"The world needs ditch diggers, too."

13 posted on 08/12/2009 8:26:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TNdandelion
absolutely...
14 posted on 08/12/2009 8:31:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: TNdandelion

Hey. I hear ya. We sort of do things arse backwards around here too nowadays. LOL. Good for you!! What ever school gets you will be very blessed. :-).


15 posted on 08/12/2009 8:32:54 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: TNdandelion

Oh my Gosh. Is “Defiance” a comedy? How hilarious. I have to see it.


16 posted on 08/12/2009 8:34:39 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Excellent ( tried and true!) advice. And look at you go! :-D. Fantastic work. Thanks for the post.


17 posted on 08/12/2009 8:40:00 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GreyMountainReagan

LOL. I hate it when that happens. Great post though. One obviously worth repeatin’ :-D.


18 posted on 08/12/2009 8:41:57 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

No...it’s not a comedy but that was a funny moment.


19 posted on 08/12/2009 8:51:58 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: TNdandelion

I’ll check it out on the IMDB.COM website. Thanks for the tip.


20 posted on 08/12/2009 9:14:47 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: HorowitzianConservative

A college degree is an investment.

Not all investments are profitable.


21 posted on 08/13/2009 6:55:06 AM PDT by Roccus (My anger is manufactured.......................................in the WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS!!)
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To: Roccus
A college degree is an investment. Not all investments are profitable.

Tell me about it. I like to cook. People told me I'm good at it. I went to college while working another job (which I still have) in order to get a degree in Culinary Arts. I did this to get a job working towards a higher-paying job working in the kitchen of a hotel or fancy restaurant.

Well, I got a job in the food industry. I work at a Sonic.

Your statement is true.

22 posted on 08/13/2009 7:02:39 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
I got a degree in Art History from Lasalle in 1983.After about 6 months of BS jobs I moved to Atlantic City and made over 78K in one year as a bartender.I also found that i enjoyed the frantic pace of the job,as well as the intense concentration and labor heavy setup.I'm close to retiring now and I've never regretted trading the suits for the working folks.And when yuppie Lib snots look down their nose at me..lets just say they're getting more than they asked for in that Cosmo
23 posted on 08/13/2009 7:58:29 AM PDT by Paddyboy
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To: Paddyboy
As a food service worker in years past, I told people "It's not what I PUT in your drink, it's what I STIRRED it with that's the unkown".
24 posted on 08/13/2009 8:21:47 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: GOP Poet
Oh my Gosh. Is “Defiance” a comedy? How hilarious. I have to see it.

Definitely not a comedy, but still worth seeing.

25 posted on 08/13/2009 8:23:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HorowitzianConservative

First off I should say that I don’t have kids but what I am really surprised about is the number of parents that allow their over 24yo to continue to live like they are 15 yo and say nothing about it to them. My parents were all about me moving out and being responsible for myself ASAP. I would’ve never been allowed to move back and just live as lng as I wanted without working and contributing.


26 posted on 08/13/2009 10:32:53 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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