Skip to comments.Time to Forgive Michael Vick?
Posted on 08/15/2009 2:07:47 PM PDT by fiscon1
The most talked abut and controversial sports story surrounds the signing of Michael Vick by the Philadelphia Eagles. Before I weigh in, I should disclose a few things. First, Vick was a favorite of mine in fantasy football. That's because his out of this world talent made him the perfect, potentially, fantasy football player. There was nothing more exciting in fantasy football than watching Michael Vick when he was on your team. Also, I am not especially an animal lover. I don't have any pets and I never have had any pets. (as I say, I have enough trouble taking care of myself)
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Vick DID serve his time... now time for the REAGAN MODEL...
TRUST ... but VERIFY.
it worked with the Soviet Union.
I will consider “forgiving” him after he stands at midfield on the NFL emblem and forty pit bulls walk up to him and lick him to show he is their friend.
He did something wrong but admitted it, did not blame sociecty, accepted his punishment, did his time.
I will never PERSONALLY feel good about it, but he didnt do anything to me so I cannot ‘forgive’ him. And I think it is wrong to take a poll or somethign and pronounce forgiveness if he tops 50%. We do too much of that crap and the minorty will be incensed that he was granted collective ‘forgiveness’ against their wishes.
But he paid his debt to society without saying it was someone elses fault. so it’s over, and he can resume his carreer.
TO redeem himself in animal lovers eyes will take a lifetime.
LOL! My sentiments exactly! And Vick should be naked.
He may have satisfied the legal system but not me, probably not ever.
Anyone who could treat an animal(s) like that, promote and enjoy it has no conscience and likely never will.
I believe NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is a class act. He really cares for and respects the history of the game. Lets hope Vick does not make him look bad.
no, he needs to be wearing a suit made out of meat and the pit bulls need to be dogs they rescued from dog fighting rings!
If you read any true crime books by actual profilers, one early warning sign of serial killers is animal abuse.
“I will consider forgiving him after he stands at midfield on the NFL emblem and forty pit bulls walk up to him and lick him to show he is their friend.”
I don’t think I would forgive him, but I would pay to see how it turned out.
I am “an animal lover”. I’ve shared most of my 63 years with dogs. Have I always treated them as well as I should? No!. But what Vick did was WAY beyond the pale. Not only the fighting, but the killing. A dog is love written on a tabula rasa. Those dogs became what Vick made them. And when he killed them, or when they suffered from wounds received on his behalf, they probably licked his hand.
Do I want to see him back in jail? He got out too early, but he copped a plea, so, ‘No’. Do I want to deny him a life or a livelihood? No again.
But I object to Vick resuming his million dollar vocation, and being a potential hero to young Americans. He doesn’t deserve it. And the NFL should be castigated for embracing him far too quickly. As for the Eagles, what do you expect from a city that booed Santa.
I never get tired of Sheets Byrd saying that.
Seriously, he did his time. What a cruel and psycho thing to do to animals, but forgiveness is in order.
as long as they let him come back there will be other who follow in his footsteps
It would seem that more of this behavior will be tolerated for the money
The message is that there are no real lasting consequences to your actions as long you can get someone to pay you to throw a football
I admit I did not follow this case to close. I heard/read that when the injured, or no longer needed or wanted, dogs were put down vick did some of the killing himself, and not in a quick and humane fashion. is this true, anybody?
NO. He is a POS.
Those who are in favor of him love their ball games and TV as they slip into serfdom. Fools.
Anyone who hangs, throws, drowns and electrocutes dogs is a sadist at best, but maybe worse. Is that curable? Just sayin’.
Play Ball, I guess.
obummer may make him “dog czar”
I view Tony Dungy as a stand up guy based upon his work here in Indianapolis.
Tony has counseled Vick and endorsed his return to the NFL.
Hopefully this turns out well.
Let's see, you have a dog whining in pain, do you:
A: Bring it to a vet.
B: Hold it under water until it drowns while you laugh.
C: Hook up some jumper cables to it and electrocute it while you laugh.
2. You have a dog as a house pet. Do you:
A: Give it a loving home.
B: Feed it to some pit bulls and while it's howling and whining in pain, laugh.
3. You have a man who has committed multiple cruel felonies that is out on parole. Do you:
A: Suggest that the tire store down the road is looking for help mounting tires on cars.
B: Give him over a million dollars to play a game and be a model for getting away with it.
We have a NJ basketball player who shot and killed his chauffeur, years have gone by and he’s still walking free, we have numerous sports figures involved in drugs, mayhem, traffic accidents, and of course, all those folks who are pro choice who think killing their baby in the womb is a constitutional right..........
Those same books also tell you that sadists and sociopaths don't get rehabilitated in prison, they get worse. They use their "time off" to develop ever more elaborate fantasies, feed their rage, and work on the "mask" they wear in public. The sophisticated ones gain allies on the outside: the literary community, college leftists, now the NFL and HSUS have become dupes for a sociopath.
Vick a hasn't changed. He won't. He probably can't. For whatever reason, nurture or nature, he grew into a humanoid being without empathy. He lacks the psychological machinery that keeps most of our baser impulses in check. Instead, he revels in those impulses. And he will continue to do so. It's just a matter of time. Manipulate, dominate, control. Cruelty and sadism. Lack of empathy. Lack of remorse. It's easy to see where he goes from here.
Vick fans: While you're forgiving him for what he's done, get in a two-fer and forgive him for what he's going to do next.
Vick is a cretin.
Time to forgive Don Imus?
I would never knowingly watch him play.
Football is just a game. If I can't watch it without wanting to throw up, forget it.
If a doctor, lawyer, or CPA was convicted of a felony their careers is over after they are released.
I have no problem with a private company hiring an ex-con. I do object to a private company subsidized by the taxpayers (publicly funded sports stadiums) doing so.
Make the NFL buy every stadium they use and they can field 100% criminal teams for all I care.
Dungy’s kid was....I won’t say because he is no longer with us. Vick is garbage. The NFL is a joke anyway. They have Olberman doing football games on NBC.
NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN/ESPN would be broke if it wasn’t for sports programming. I will chose to boycott them in fact cable tv is being shut off soon because I refuse to support the serfdom of America.
Just like the fall of Rome - bread and circuses to distract the masses. The masses are sheep.
What Imus did, while tasteless does not compared with what Vick did.
That’s my point.
And the Rev. Jesse Jackson counseled Clinton.
It's all a show.
Based on my personal knowledge of Tony Dungy, which is primarily that one of my best friends attended church with him when Tony lived in Indy, I definitely wouldn’t put him in the same class as any race baiting left wing “reverend”.
You may notice Dungy has kept his distance from Baraq.
If you have different info, please Freepmail me, I’m open to revise my opinion.
If Dungy backs Vick then I do not like him. Vick is a creep. The NFL is filled with thugs and is mindless entertainment anyway. It is designed to distract the masses as they slip into serfdom. This is what they did in Rome and in the UK.
The masses are sheep. The NFL is s**t in my book when Keith Olberman has a prominent job on NBC doing football commentary.
Agree 100%. If Vick wasn't on the news about the dogs I would never have heard of him, but today's youth idolize Vick and other athletes. They need morals clauses in sports contracts and they need to enforce them.
The owners are fools - wealth fools. Vick is not even a good quarterback. The Falcons got rid of him, brought in a good rookie and started winning.
As long as Olberman & Vick are involved - I am done with the NFL.
I said forgive before. I thought it was just dog fighting. Since I’ve learned about the other cruelty, I’m not so sure.
I wouldn’t say there are no lasting consequences for Vick. He went from a 10 million dollar a year starting QB NFL salary with tons of endorsement deals to a 1.6 million dollar a year backup/ gadget QB NFL salary and no endorsement deals. That’s a lot of consequences right there, he’s probably lost close to 30 million since this started, and the judge in his bankruptcy case isn’t letting him out of his 20 million in debt. Not to mention that he lost 2 of what usually are the best years in a QB career (late 20s tends to be when the brain and body really get on the same page and they can get the most out of their talent). And NFL Hall of Fame voters are encouraged to take off the field behavior into account.
Yes the sport, like all sports, like all businesses, is about the money. But the idea hat Vick getting back in is a lack of lasting consequences is kind of silly.
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