Skip to comments.Cameron's "Titanic" movie, shown on TNT, deletes "Jesus, Mary, Joseph" dialogue...
Posted on 08/19/2009 12:51:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
So, on Saturday night, James Cameron's 1997 movie "TITANIC", with Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio, came on at 7 p.m. I own the original on DVD and have seen that version close to 40 or 50 times. My young son is obsessed with anything that has to do with Titanic, so we've seen it a lot, and I know all of the scenes and most of the dialogue.
As usual, when a movie is shown on TV, any foul language will be deleted, or replaced with other less offensive words. But in this version, I also noticed that when a young Irish woman in the 3rd class lounge yelled out "Jesus, Mary, Joseph" in one of the scenes, that the "Jesus" was mute -- but the "Mary" and "Joseph" could still be heard. Interesting, huh?
Since when does ANYONE find the word "Jesus" offensive enough to mute it out of a TNT movie dialogue?
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Actually, itsounds very positive to me! I find it highly offensive when the Lord’s name is taken in vain, and to me, this includes using it in casual dialog.
Has he seen the one with Barbara Stanwick, much better than that slop they pass as movies today.
The morons at TNT are so stupid that they thought the woman was cursing when she was actually praying.
From the context, as I am not so familiar with that movie, “Jesus” was a name being used in vain. Maybe that’s why. I notice that there’s not a lot of “Oh my God” on some of my food and decorating channels, either. It’s always “Oh my gosh” or “Oh, my goodness.”
Do we still get to see Kate Winslet naked?
I’m glad you can find the ray of sunshine in that, but you know as well as I do that Turner Network Television (TNT) didn’t mute His name to keep from offending you. I agree it is a positive outcome.....mysterious ways indeed.
They were using the Lord’s name in vain in the movie....for entertainment. It’s a good thing it was taken out, not bad.
Yes, he’s seen all the Titanic movies made — from 1943, 1958, and other documentaries as well. It’s a wonderful (albeit sad) story.
They should have muffled Leo DiCaprio’s lines :)
Worst movie to ever win an Oscar
Marvelous movie and a tear-jerker par excellence!
Unfortunately (for you), in the TNT version, there was no naked Rose a.k.a. Kate Winslet.
The Stanwyck version was made in 1953. Make sure he catches it, if he hasn’t.
lol! I am just kidding around
I’ve avoided the movie, is she praying or exclaiming? If she’s exclaiming then it would be using The Lord’s name in vain and that’s usually blanked out. Same reason “goddammit” turns to “[pause]dammit”.
Yes, 1953. Yes, he has watched that one with Stanwyck.
I have to say that the 1958 film, “A Night To Remember”, based on the book by Walter Lord, is one of the best — aside from Cameron’s version.
Yes, she was exclaiming. She was reacting to something amazing that Rose’s character (Kate Winslet) did with her feet.
If it was being used as an exclamation, then I'm glad it was removed.
There was a survey some years ago that found a disparity in perception of profanity... basically, in rural/religious, i.e., 'red state' areas, people thought 'G**D***' was worse or more offensive profanity than 'F***.' In urban/secular areas it was just the opposite. I definitely hold the former view.
No, you're not!
I do agree with your explanation, but I do get the feeling that TNT just wanted altogether to remove anything to do with the name of Jesus.
Interesting; thinking about it, am more likely to hear someone drop the F-bomb than hear the Lord’s name in vain. I’m with you on this one too.
The Irish woman is presumably Catholic. I’ve never heard anyone but a Catholic use this phrase (as an exclamation of amazement or disbelief at something, much as the movie character does). Growing up Catholic it was something I heard frequently from the older family members. It was never seen as “profanity” — certainly not along the order of g.d. or anything like that, more of a “wow, what’ll they think of next” sort of thing.
I can still hear my Irish grandpap proclaim ‘Jayz-us, Murry and Joooseef.’
Its just not the same w/o the heavy Brogue.
As to the editing...well maybe somebody at Turner ‘got religion.’ (I crack myself up sometimes).
You are so right. With a wonderful cast like they had how could it not be?
That’s not so bad. I’ve seen several movies on TV that edited out all the profanity, but left in the G portion of GD when it was uttered.
This wasn’t casual dialogue. This was a woman praying.
This was a depiction of a person praying—not someone using God’s name casually.
No one in my family (Irish Catholic) ever said “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph” as an exclamation. It was, in fact, one of the specific prayers classed as “aspirations.” “My Jesus, Mercy,” “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,” “O, Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee,” etc.
I never heard the f-bomb until I was 14, when I first went to government school.
Actually, the Irish woman in question was reacting to something amazing that Rose (Kate Winslet) did with her feet while dancing.
LOL, yes, from an Irish friend as well, come to think of it. She has used the phrase more than once.
Even if it was it was the name of Christ being used as entertainment...it wasn't a real prayer. It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit.
Sounds like you are describing Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ!
Praying is a human activity. A laudable and noble human activity. It is legitimate for a dramatic production to depict human activities, both good and evil.
Interestingly, Jim Caviezel has received letters from people who were shocked that he “swore” in some role or other. His response is the correct one: “It’s called ‘ACTING.’”
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