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Secessionist movement under way in Texas
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Posted on 08/28/2009 11:36:04 AM PDT by wk4bush2004

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To: Melas; Texan Tory
I would fight against secession as well.

Guess we'll see you on the battlefield .... which is a damn shame if it ever gets to that point fellow freepers. Unless you want to conclusively demonstrate that this republic is not broken beyond repair.

51 posted on 08/28/2009 1:07:52 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The way to destroy a countercultural movement is to have white people start liking it.)
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To: Tucker39

With our luck, Ma Richards would be Guvnah of ONE of those states. Kinky Friedman might be Guvnah of another one. Some BUSH or another might be in another, and before we know it we’re in a worse fix than before!


That’s my point. Most people I believe think the conservatives would gain a bunch of seats. I don’t because when you think about breaking up this state how do you do it and where do you put the South Texas, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, El Paso, etc. Outside of a fun exercise it will never happen as the Congress will never agree.


52 posted on 08/28/2009 1:08:23 PM PDT by deport
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To: Centurion2000

Money can be wasted in Austin just as fast as it can be wasted in DC.


53 posted on 08/28/2009 1:10:39 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Centurion2000

“Guess we’ll see you on the battlefield .... which is a damn shame if it ever gets to that point fellow freepers. Unless you want to conclusively demonstrate that this republic is not broken beyond repair.”

I sincerely hope you never see me on the battlefield but that if you do, that we’re fighting on the same side. I would work and vote against secession, but I’m not in favor of taking up arms against any state that chooses to secede.


54 posted on 08/28/2009 1:24:21 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Former_Democrat; ...
Thanks AAC!

So, here we go again, eh? The headline is a bit of hyperbole since Texas has ALWAYS had a secessionist movement going. ;^)

Anyway, pinging the 10th Amendment list to join in the discussion if you feel compelled.

Texas may be leaving the building?

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55 posted on 08/28/2009 1:30:16 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you have!)
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To: BertWheeler

My son and his family live right outside Galveston. I wouldn’t mind going to visit them permanently!


56 posted on 08/28/2009 1:35:23 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: BertWheeler

He said 58 states.


57 posted on 08/28/2009 1:37:32 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Texan Tory
I’m not in favor of taking up arms against any state that chooses to secede.

I am.

58 posted on 08/28/2009 1:45:03 PM PDT by Melas
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To: wk4bush2004

If they secede....I’m moving there. If they’ll have me.


59 posted on 08/28/2009 1:48:51 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Hope requires the contender, who sees no virtue in surrender.)
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To: Melas

Are you merely a Carpetbagger or are you a Scalawag?


60 posted on 08/28/2009 1:49:46 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Texan Tory

If we can successfully throw the bums out on 10 and get a bridle on this wild horse, then we give it another chance. If the rats refuse to go or destroy the electoral process, then we’ll know we’re pw3nd and there’s nothing left but to fight and die.


61 posted on 08/28/2009 1:50:34 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: wk4bush2004

“Ah, so they flee the place they screwed up and then move to a place and then try to turn it into the dump they came from.”

You’re spot on. It’s why Austin is turning into yet another liberal hell hole. If they miss home that much they should get the hell out of my state.


62 posted on 08/28/2009 1:58:19 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: wk4bush2004

If Texas tells the feds to take a hike, count me in. If we reverse-Galt Texas then Texas would become a major economic powerhouse.


63 posted on 08/28/2009 2:01:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: BnBlFlag

I’m an American.


64 posted on 08/28/2009 2:04:27 PM PDT by Melas
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I’ll come screaming in like a bat outta hell from NYC.


65 posted on 08/28/2009 2:18:18 PM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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To: wk4bush2004

If Obama’s HANDLERS want to destroy this UNION/REPUBLIC, what better way......


66 posted on 08/28/2009 2:24:49 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wk4bush2004

If Obama’s HANDLERS want to destroy this UNION/REPUBLIC, what better way......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc


67 posted on 08/28/2009 2:25:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: trumandogz

When TX is no longer handcuffed with drilling, they won’t need to borrow.

If they do, I’m sure the Republic of Alaska will help them out.


68 posted on 08/28/2009 2:29:03 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Texan Tory

Texas pledge: Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.


69 posted on 08/28/2009 2:29:08 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Melas

“I would fight against secession as well.”

Can we expect you to take up arms against your fellow Texans?


70 posted on 08/28/2009 2:30:48 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I heard that if you can show your FReeper Membership card and get a TX FReeper to sponsor you, you’ll have no problem getting in.

I have a sponsor already.


71 posted on 08/28/2009 2:30:49 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: screaminsunshine

You have and had a RINO in charge. Don’t ya know?


72 posted on 08/28/2009 2:32:02 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: trumandogz

We didn’t need to borrow that money. We have over $9 billon in a rainy day fund.


73 posted on 08/28/2009 2:33:56 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

“Texas pledge: Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.”

If Texas remains in the union, then it will be possible to make the pledge honestly to both flags; I want Texas to remain in the union.


74 posted on 08/28/2009 2:39:03 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Texan Tory; Melas

“I want Texas to remain in the union.”

This is my *wish* as well but, there might come a day...

How about if we start our own club and offer membership to those who want to join? Weed out the undesirables, if you will.


75 posted on 08/28/2009 2:42:45 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: ForGod'sSake

If only all the states would secede at once, we would be the United States again. Let DC see how much power they have then.


76 posted on 08/28/2009 2:48:27 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: trumandogz

>>> That is nonsense. <<<

Oh, c’mon! Texas’ last secession vote worked out so well for the state. And all those Army types at Fort Hood are pushovers. No worries!

C’mon! Where’s your sense of adventure! /sarc


77 posted on 08/28/2009 2:53:08 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Maybe KY will follow Texas’ lead.


78 posted on 08/28/2009 3:00:15 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: netmilsmom

“When TX is no longer handcuffed with drilling...”

How is Texas currently handcuffed with drilling?


79 posted on 08/28/2009 3:12:37 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Poe White Trash

These people are going to be really shocked when the Demographics of the Republic of Texas shift to Democrat within ten years.


80 posted on 08/28/2009 3:17:38 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Melas

But you’re Damn sure not a Texan. When the shtf, I’d make myself scarce if I were you. You might survive a little longer.


81 posted on 08/28/2009 3:35:12 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: trumandogz

Regulations handcuff drilling and refining.
Stop that and TX does fine.


82 posted on 08/28/2009 3:58:41 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: BnBlFlag

yawn


83 posted on 08/28/2009 4:09:29 PM PDT by Melas
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To: DTogo

...Deal me in on that...


84 posted on 08/28/2009 4:47:36 PM PDT by gargoyle (...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
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To: Owl558
In addition, the federal constitution, of which Texas is a signitory, forbids any state from being formed out of another.

Not true.

It's not simple, but it's doable.

From Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution:

...no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

85 posted on 08/28/2009 5:26:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: netmilsmom
Could you please spell out the specifics of how E&P is handcuffed in Texas?

As for me, I live in Texas and have worked in the oil field for more than 20 years and the only handcuffs on drilling in Texas is the low price of oil.

Now, if you would like for us to drill more in Texas, you must also like me want to see oil priced at more than $100.00 a barrel.

86 posted on 08/28/2009 5:47:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Well cool! As usual, you have all the answers.
They can sell their oil and gas, then built their refineries and they are good to go as a Republic.

Since you always have the most liberal answers, I suspect that you may not like the idea, but it’s not really your call, is it?


87 posted on 08/28/2009 6:09:01 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

Actually the low price of oil is actually a kind of handcuff on drilling. As for the handcuffs intended in the original commentary, I thought we were limited in what we could do offshore, and the regulations for putting in new wells etc were rather overbearing.


88 posted on 08/28/2009 6:40:48 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: gargoyle

Remember the Alamo!


89 posted on 08/28/2009 7:10:47 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: netmilsmom
Again, federal regulations did not cause the Texas rig count to fall last fall. Instead, it was the decrease in the price of oil.

When the price of oil climbs above $90.00 the Texas rig count will increase. If the price can be sustained above $100.00, you will see lots of E&P in Texas and Louisiana.

As far as Texas is concerned, it is going to stay in the Union since Texans do not want to leave the Union and a state cannot leave the Union.

Finally, Texas is undergoing a shift in demographics that will make Texas a Democratic state in ten years.

90 posted on 08/28/2009 7:41:43 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DTogo

...I remember, Texans wanting to join a union and be out of tyrannical rule. This is just as important for Texas, and the rest of the union to be out of tyrannical rule of the Federal Government...

...Wish it were not to this point, but, it is, and Texas, like the Alamo must be protected...

...My hope is that the Feds will not fight this, give the states the rights within the Constitution and the union will be preserved...


91 posted on 08/28/2009 8:37:41 PM PDT by gargoyle (...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
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To: TheOldLady
If only all the states would secede at once, we would be the United States again.

I presume you mean the ones that are more or less fed up with the situation that might be inclined to go all in. I don't know if that's the answer or not. Could be. It would certainly get odinga to cut his vacation(s) short. I just hope there are better minds at work on this problem of ours. God only knows we seem to be running out of options.

92 posted on 08/28/2009 8:47:12 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you have!)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Maybe KY will follow Texas’ lead.

I expect they would - eventually. FWIW, I doubt Texas is going to do anything dramatic in the immediate future but it would by nice to have the folks from KY on our side if TSHTF. Texas would probably need all the support it could get.

93 posted on 08/28/2009 8:58:03 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: DuncanWaring

“From Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution:”

Absolutely right. I stand corrected. Think West Virginia.


94 posted on 08/28/2009 8:59:15 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: ForGod'sSake

Well, we are going to new an ocean port in KY...gotta get that bourbon out!

Besides, Kentuckians were the second largest group at the Alamo! That ought to count for something! ;)


95 posted on 08/28/2009 9:23:20 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: WKUHilltopper

Cripes...new=need. Too many sudafeds!


96 posted on 08/28/2009 9:24:05 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: gargoyle

Sadly, politicians and bureaucrats will probably not see past their own egos, lust for power, and greed.


97 posted on 08/28/2009 9:32:53 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Heh. Maybe we could trade oil for bourbon. The bourbon might come in handy down here if things go from bad to worse. I can’t say the same for all Texans but I know a few good ol’ boys who after a few shots of Kentucky’s best can catch bullets with their teeth.


98 posted on 08/28/2009 9:36:01 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Texan Tory
I have suspended my pledging of allegiance to the cotton/rayon banner (made in China) that represents the fascist dictatorship of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Fwank, Schoooooooooooooomah, and all of the rest of these Leftist sh*ts. When over 40% of the US Senate is comprised of a communist group that represents less than 2% of the American population, its time to look for a more sane government in a safer place. I do not live to serve these collectivist pigs who live like princes while Americans wallow...
99 posted on 08/28/2009 9:41:02 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Centurion2000
Don't worry, Texas. If the Feds send land troops they will have to cross our territory. Federal supply lines will be impossible to maintain. We have them surrounded before they ever leave their barracks.
100 posted on 08/28/2009 9:43:36 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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