Skip to comments.Secessionist movement under way in Texas
Posted on 08/28/2009 7:05:58 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Fiercely independent and thoroughly horrified at the blatantly unconstitutional explosion of federal tyranny into every aspect of our lives, Texans are set to march on the state capitol in droves on Saturday. They will be delivering a million-strong petition to their elected officials based on the 10th Amendment, demanding an immediate constitutional confrontation with Washington.
If they are turned away or their concerns inadequately addressed, organizer Gerry Donaldson says they "will be forced to call for a vote for secession." This will not be the last time a state openly defies Obama's treasonous war on the Constitution.
Donaldson, who runs his own Internet radio show, says they are "calling for an orderly process that will allow our federal government to fall back in line with the Constitution." He continued, "Either we will restore America, we will live in a Marxist dictatorship, or we will secede and start over again."
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Count me in.
We even have the outline for a proposed new constitution:
Read it and weap you non-Texans!
Secede and I’m moving there.
Go Texas. The war is coming, and I want to be amongst some good shots.
Oh, if you need a good fighter pilot type to patrol for Pelosi’s plane, please let me know after I move.
Arizona seconds that motion
I served there in the AF for four years and voted absentee in TX for 20 years. Would like to be counted in.
Texas tried this once before and it didn’t exactly work out.
Fresh air from the heart of TExas.
We've been researching, and are verrrry disappointed to learn that Texas is even more confiscatory - bigtime - than Taxifornia regarding property taxes......that's a deal killer right there...............so, in that regard, your tax happy state is safe from usurpers.
Where do I apply for my Texas passport?
But Texas has no state income taxes. I don’t know if it all evens out compared to California.
Secede and I will be moving from Vermont to Helotes , Bexar County in the Republic of Texas.
I won’t have to wear one of those big funny cowboy hats, will I?
Maybe but no income taxes and sales taxes are generally less than anywhere in CA. I’m a Texan but lived in CA for eight years in the ‘90s.
Ping for later.
So how does Texas fund its expenditures? Property taxes?
Not if you don't mind getting your ears, neck and nose sunburned... ;-)
But -- if you do wear one, you'll have to wear it indoors, too... '-)
Send me just 9.95 ! .....:o)
I will vote for this effort. I am done with this liberal socialist trash. You can have yer choice of homes in Austin or Houston when the escaping socialist democrats there run north !!
I’ve been waiting and counting on Texas to do this!
They wisely had this option written into their Constitution in the very beginning.
But we need more states to declare, at least, States Rights - as they are doing one by one...
Once 30 have done this - they can stop the FEderal Gov’t in it’s tracks and put it back to it’s narrow field of rights as outlined in the Constitution.
I hope they hurry up, as I doubt Texas will be able to find room for all us that will pack our bags and head for the Lone Star State. This rally aught to make some good headlines - not that most of the media will cover it. That’s okay. If FOX does, well, they’ve got the most viewers, by far.
Nice, except that I strongly recommend that as you include the ten amendments of the US Constitution, that you reword them as necessary to eliminate the possibility of misinterpretation. This can apply to any and all amendments, but particularly the second, which was worded with a grammar structure beyond the capabilities of many modern citizens, and therefore the meaning can be manipulated to statist ends. I suggest something along the lines of “Texas, recognizing the value and necessity of an armed citizenry, affirms that all persons have the right to possess and bear arms.” No caveats, no restrictions, no unusual clauses.
OK, I’ll take the hat, but I draw the line at those big silly belt buckles.
I went on the radio show of one of the folks pushing this a few days back. Kinda left them speechless for a bit when I asked them this question, roughly paraphrased:
“If, while you have the freedom to communicate, to organize, to run candidates for public office, etc., and you can’t get people motivated to get off their rear ends to save our republic, what makes you think those same people can find the political and physical will to enforce secession?”
They really didn’t have an answer.
Not for "retirees"....not even close. But that's probably a good thing for TX.
It's time to SECEDE!
If you’re not part of the problem, you’re part of the solution! God bless the Republic of Texas.
How about Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana seceeding together?
Fall break we’re planning on a college visit to look at where my oldest may go to school. ASU and Texas A&M are in the running. I think we just decided to check out A&M first. :-)
If TX secedes...that leaves 56 states of Obama’s 57 states.
Lemme guess - Kay and Dubya want to reunite with Mexico.
The Texas Constitution already has it.
Sec. 23. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.
Not ideal, I would say... but significantly more clear than the US Constitution’s Second Amendment.
As I understand, Texas cannot secede, it can only break up into 4 more states. Would give 8 more Senate seats.
Either way, seems to me things are gonna get ugly.
Texas funds itself through property taxes, sales taxes (still lower than California) and oil taxes.
On the other hand, we pride ourselves on running a low-services low-cost state, so it’s not a big deal.
bump for reading later.
Texas already has a flag and I doubt real Texans want to serve under that one.
Different times, different principles.
Back in the 1840s, Texas realized they couldn't defend their borders with 19th Century technoclogy so they joined the Union as a way to protect itself from invaders.
They were tag-alongs in the secession movement of the Civil War which was led by other Souther states.
In today's times, Texas has the resources and the willpower to go it alone without Washington's help or influence. They can better control their borders than apparently Washington will or can, and they need to get out as soon as they can or get sucked under the massive debt run up by the Feds.
Imagine a new country with its own capitalist economy, no I.R.S., respect for God and the ability to learn from the mistakes America has made in the past 200 years. Texas can make it happen.
Starting a civil war should be a last resort. I believe secession would lead to that and I do not relish the idea of Americans killing one another. Let’s not destroy this great nation. Obama’s popularity is constantly decreasing. That means there is time and room to save the country in the right way.
My main belt buckle is not too big, and it looks like this:
And, here in God's Country, you damshore better not call that "silly"... :-|
Only if we wish to stay in the Union. If we don’t want to stay, well... Here’s Article 1, Section 2, Texas Constitution:
Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.
On top of which, the right of secession far predates the formation of Texas. In fact, it predates the United States.
Property taxes are high because there is no personal income tax. You can stay in Cali and keep paying state income tax if you wish. Makes no mind to me. Just don’t move here and then vote for an income tax or we may just have to shoot you.
Even if Obama was impeached, the mindless welfare masses will only elect another. Remember, they’ve voted the same way three elections running.
Also, secession does not have to be violent. I refer you to the breakup of Czechoslovakia, which was a wholly peaceful separation.
They did serve under the flag of the confederate states of america during the civil war.
Of course, this Native Texan refuses to do the “hat indoors” bit. My Mama and Daddy — and the USAF — taught me better...
Headgear is a wise choice during the summer months but, don't worry, there are alternatives to Cowboy hats. Like Dallas Cowboy caps. Or Texas Longhorn caps. Or Texas Aggie caps. Or...
On top of which, last time the North had all the industry, all the wealth, and all the manpower.
If it comes down to it, let’s see, shall we?
Texas has all the industry - the opposition has none.
Texas has all the remaining wealth - the opposition has none.
Texas makes many, many guns and nuclear weapons - the opposition makes less and none, respectively.
Texas has lots of willing and eager manpower - the opposition has little manpower willing to fight a country that simply wishes to leave.
I like our odds.
Also, right before the end of the last Civil War, the only one of the Confederate States that hadn’t been overrun was Texas. The Union came to Texas and did not enjoy their reception.
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