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Secessionist movement under way in Texas
http://www.examiner.com/x-17412-Macon-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Secessionist-movement-under-way-in-Texas ^

Posted on 08/28/2009 7:05:58 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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1 posted on 08/28/2009 7:05:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Count me in.


2 posted on 08/28/2009 7:09:00 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We even have the outline for a proposed new constitution:

http://freetexasconstitution.wordpress.com/

Read it and weap you non-Texans!


3 posted on 08/28/2009 7:13:28 PM PDT by grumpa (VP)
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To: Ronin

Secede and I’m moving there.

Go Texas. The war is coming, and I want to be amongst some good shots.

Oh, if you need a good fighter pilot type to patrol for Pelosi’s plane, please let me know after I move.


4 posted on 08/28/2009 7:15:12 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MinorityRepublican

Arizona seconds that motion


5 posted on 08/28/2009 7:15:17 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

I served there in the AF for four years and voted absentee in TX for 20 years. Would like to be counted in.


6 posted on 08/28/2009 7:15:31 PM PDT by ScottinVA (I remember Jack Kennedy... Jack Kennedy was a President of mine.. and Teddy, you're no Jack Kennedy!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Im in


7 posted on 08/28/2009 7:20:03 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: MinorityRepublican

Texas tried this once before and it didn’t exactly work out.


8 posted on 08/28/2009 7:22:09 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: MinorityRepublican

Fresh air from the heart of TExas.

(YeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!)

IMHO


9 posted on 08/28/2009 7:22:56 PM PDT by ripley
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To: grumpa
Read it and weap you non-Texans!

We've been researching, and are verrrry disappointed to learn that Texas is even more confiscatory - bigtime - than Taxifornia regarding property taxes......that's a deal killer right there...............so, in that regard, your tax happy state is safe from usurpers.

10 posted on 08/28/2009 7:26:18 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not an Obama "Administration"....it's a "Regime")
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To: MinorityRepublican

Where do I apply for my Texas passport?


11 posted on 08/28/2009 7:26:21 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: MinorityRepublican
    I'm on board.
12 posted on 08/28/2009 7:28:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: ErnBatavia

But Texas has no state income taxes. I don’t know if it all evens out compared to California.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 7:28:50 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: MinorityRepublican

Secede and I will be moving from Vermont to Helotes , Bexar County in the Republic of Texas.


14 posted on 08/28/2009 7:30:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,trutth. (member NRA)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I won’t have to wear one of those big funny cowboy hats, will I?


15 posted on 08/28/2009 7:32:05 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: ErnBatavia

Maybe but no income taxes and sales taxes are generally less than anywhere in CA. I’m a Texan but lived in CA for eight years in the ‘90s.


16 posted on 08/28/2009 7:32:25 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ping for later.


17 posted on 08/28/2009 7:34:36 PM PDT by BigCinBigD ('Evil white devil since 1960')
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To: MinorityRepublican

G.T.T.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 7:36:58 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: ataDude
but no income taxes and sales taxes are generally less

So how does Texas fund its expenditures? Property taxes?

19 posted on 08/28/2009 7:37:24 PM PDT by John123 (My Definition of Liberals - Folks who validates their existence by calling someone a racist.)
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To: Ronin
" I won’t have to wear one of those big funny cowboy hats, will I?"

Not if you don't mind getting your ears, neck and nose sunburned... ;-)

But -- if you do wear one, you'll have to wear it indoors, too... '-)

20 posted on 08/28/2009 7:39:39 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: 353FMG

Send me just 9.95 ! .....:o)

I will vote for this effort. I am done with this liberal socialist trash. You can have yer choice of homes in Austin or Houston when the escaping socialist democrats there run north !!

Welcome !!


21 posted on 08/28/2009 7:42:54 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ve been waiting and counting on Texas to do this!

They wisely had this option written into their Constitution in the very beginning.

But we need more states to declare, at least, States Rights - as they are doing one by one...
scroll down
http://starmaker.today.com/2009/02/05/states-rights-10th-amendment-secessionist-movement/

Once 30 have done this - they can stop the FEderal Gov’t in it’s tracks and put it back to it’s narrow field of rights as outlined in the Constitution.

I hope they hurry up, as I doubt Texas will be able to find room for all us that will pack our bags and head for the Lone Star State. This rally aught to make some good headlines - not that most of the media will cover it. That’s okay. If FOX does, well, they’ve got the most viewers, by far.

Go Texas!


22 posted on 08/28/2009 7:45:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nice, except that I strongly recommend that as you include the ten amendments of the US Constitution, that you reword them as necessary to eliminate the possibility of misinterpretation. This can apply to any and all amendments, but particularly the second, which was worded with a grammar structure beyond the capabilities of many modern citizens, and therefore the meaning can be manipulated to statist ends. I suggest something along the lines of “Texas, recognizing the value and necessity of an armed citizenry, affirms that all persons have the right to possess and bear arms.” No caveats, no restrictions, no unusual clauses.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 7:50:08 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: TXnMA

OK, I’ll take the hat, but I draw the line at those big silly belt buckles.


24 posted on 08/28/2009 7:51:16 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I went on the radio show of one of the folks pushing this a few days back. Kinda left them speechless for a bit when I asked them this question, roughly paraphrased:

“If, while you have the freedom to communicate, to organize, to run candidates for public office, etc., and you can’t get people motivated to get off their rear ends to save our republic, what makes you think those same people can find the political and physical will to enforce secession?”

They really didn’t have an answer.


25 posted on 08/28/2009 7:51:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have freedom. You can have socialism. But you can't have both! www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: Vince Ferrer
But Texas has no state income taxes. I don’t know if it all evens out compared to California.

Not for "retirees"....not even close. But that's probably a good thing for TX.

26 posted on 08/28/2009 7:56:34 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not an Obama "Administration"....it's a "Regime")
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To: MinorityRepublican

It's time to SECEDE!

27 posted on 08/28/2009 8:03:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
If Texas succeeds I'm moving to Texas. It would probably be the real last chance for real freedom.
28 posted on 08/28/2009 8:05:08 PM PDT by factmart
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To: MinorityRepublican

If you’re not part of the problem, you’re part of the solution! God bless the Republic of Texas.


29 posted on 08/28/2009 8:06:22 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

How about Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana seceeding together?


30 posted on 08/28/2009 8:08:15 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Fall break we’re planning on a college visit to look at where my oldest may go to school. ASU and Texas A&M are in the running. I think we just decided to check out A&M first. :-)


31 posted on 08/28/2009 8:08:54 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If TX secedes...that leaves 56 states of Obama’s 57 states.


32 posted on 08/28/2009 8:09:22 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lemme guess - Kay and Dubya want to reunite with Mexico.


33 posted on 08/28/2009 8:09:26 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Sender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkHWE92UMU


34 posted on 08/28/2009 8:10:06 PM PDT by neodad (This tagline reported to flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: Little Pig

The Texas Constitution already has it.

Sec. 23. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.

Not ideal, I would say... but significantly more clear than the US Constitution’s Second Amendment.


35 posted on 08/28/2009 8:10:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

As I understand, Texas cannot secede, it can only break up into 4 more states. Would give 8 more Senate seats.

Either way, seems to me things are gonna get ugly.


36 posted on 08/28/2009 8:10:59 PM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: John123

Texas funds itself through property taxes, sales taxes (still lower than California) and oil taxes.

On the other hand, we pride ourselves on running a low-services low-cost state, so it’s not a big deal.


37 posted on 08/28/2009 8:13:49 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: grumpa

bump for reading later.


38 posted on 08/28/2009 8:13:59 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Texas already has a flag and I doubt real Texans want to serve under that one.


39 posted on 08/28/2009 8:17:03 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: bobjam
Texas tried this once before and it didn’t exactly work out.

Different times, different principles.

Back in the 1840s, Texas realized they couldn't defend their borders with 19th Century technoclogy so they joined the Union as a way to protect itself from invaders.

They were tag-alongs in the secession movement of the Civil War which was led by other Souther states.

In today's times, Texas has the resources and the willpower to go it alone without Washington's help or influence. They can better control their borders than apparently Washington will or can, and they need to get out as soon as they can or get sucked under the massive debt run up by the Feds.

Imagine a new country with its own capitalist economy, no I.R.S., respect for God and the ability to learn from the mistakes America has made in the past 200 years. Texas can make it happen.

40 posted on 08/28/2009 8:20:42 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Starting a civil war should be a last resort. I believe secession would lead to that and I do not relish the idea of Americans killing one another. Let’s not destroy this great nation. Obama’s popularity is constantly decreasing. That means there is time and room to save the country in the right way.


41 posted on 08/28/2009 8:20:53 PM PDT by Sockdologer (Waiting patiently for the Democrats to solve the world's problems.)
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To: Ronin
"OK, I’ll take the hat, but I draw the line at those big silly belt buckles."

My main belt buckle is not too big, and it looks like this:

And, here in God's Country, you damshore better not call that "silly"... :-|

42 posted on 08/28/2009 8:20:54 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: flash2368

Only if we wish to stay in the Union. If we don’t want to stay, well... Here’s Article 1, Section 2, Texas Constitution:

Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.

On top of which, the right of secession far predates the formation of Texas. In fact, it predates the United States.


43 posted on 08/28/2009 8:21:23 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: max americana

*laugh*


44 posted on 08/28/2009 8:21:30 PM PDT by Sockdologer (Waiting patiently for the Democrats to solve the world's problems.)
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To: ErnBatavia

Property taxes are high because there is no personal income tax. You can stay in Cali and keep paying state income tax if you wish. Makes no mind to me. Just don’t move here and then vote for an income tax or we may just have to shoot you.


45 posted on 08/28/2009 8:22:27 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Sockdologer

Even if Obama was impeached, the mindless welfare masses will only elect another. Remember, they’ve voted the same way three elections running.

Also, secession does not have to be violent. I refer you to the breakup of Czechoslovakia, which was a wholly peaceful separation.


46 posted on 08/28/2009 8:22:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Texas already has a flag and I doubt real Texans want to serve under that one.

They did serve under the flag of the confederate states of america during the civil war.

47 posted on 08/28/2009 8:24:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Ronin

Of course, this Native Texan refuses to do the “hat indoors” bit. My Mama and Daddy — and the USAF — taught me better...


48 posted on 08/28/2009 8:24:27 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Ronin
I won’t have to wear one of those big funny cowboy hats, will I?

Headgear is a wise choice during the summer months but, don't worry, there are alternatives to Cowboy hats. Like Dallas Cowboy caps. Or Texas Longhorn caps. Or Texas Aggie caps. Or...

49 posted on 08/28/2009 8:25:10 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: OrangeHoof; bobjam

On top of which, last time the North had all the industry, all the wealth, and all the manpower.

If it comes down to it, let’s see, shall we?

Texas has all the industry - the opposition has none.
Texas has all the remaining wealth - the opposition has none.
Texas makes many, many guns and nuclear weapons - the opposition makes less and none, respectively.
Texas has lots of willing and eager manpower - the opposition has little manpower willing to fight a country that simply wishes to leave.

I like our odds.

Also, right before the end of the last Civil War, the only one of the Confederate States that hadn’t been overrun was Texas. The Union came to Texas and did not enjoy their reception.


50 posted on 08/28/2009 8:26:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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