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Obama’s Birth Certificate Filed With Court (the Ebay guy is baaaaack)
Rovingpatrol ^ | 9/4/09 | staff

Posted on 09/04/2009 11:00:58 AM PDT by pissant

Remember Lucus Smith? The man who claimed he had Obama’s birth certificate and tried auctioning it off on ebay?

Lucas made a couple of youtube vids.

Lucas filed a declaration with the court in California concerning how he had gotten a hold of Obama’s birth certificate and submitted the birth certificate along with the declaration.

I personally don’t know for sure if its real but he would be a fool for knowingly filing a lie with a court.

Lucas’s latest youtube vid defending his find…

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KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; kenya; larrysinclairslover; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; orlytaitz; taitz; usurper
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1 posted on 09/04/2009 11:00:59 AM PDT by pissant
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To: LucyT

Lucas is back. ROFL


2 posted on 09/04/2009 11:01:25 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

3 posted on 09/04/2009 11:03:25 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

He has already proven himself to be a fool and not right in the head. The fact he is still making news is perplexing. I bet he saw those potential ebay sales (scams) he ran and is working an angle to try to get that hook baited again.


4 posted on 09/04/2009 11:05:20 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I haven’t been following, is he completely unreliable?


5 posted on 09/04/2009 11:07:15 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: pissant

Can he be such an idiot to believe that if this is fake the court won’t ream him a new one? And if his is real then all hell is about to break out!


6 posted on 09/04/2009 11:07:52 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: mnehring

He’s the kidney salesman, if I recall. LOL


7 posted on 09/04/2009 11:08:26 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Kartographer

Maybe he is getting a little Obama dough to help muddy the waters? Who knows?


8 posted on 09/04/2009 11:09:05 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Hildy

“I haven’t been following, is he completely unreliable?”

I have, and I’m 99.98% sure he is.


9 posted on 09/04/2009 11:09:12 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Hildy

Yes, completely


10 posted on 09/04/2009 11:09:31 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: traderrob6

That still leaves .02%! ;-)


11 posted on 09/04/2009 11:10:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Hildy

He was a crackpot. Very, very strange history like trying to sell haunted houses, etc. Even WND (finally) called him on it.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108005


12 posted on 09/04/2009 11:10:19 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Kartographer
“That still leaves .02%! ;-)”

I'm only 98.96% sure the sun will rise tomorrow

13 posted on 09/04/2009 11:12:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

Funny that he entered an affidavit to the court. You can get in a heap of trouble for forgery.


14 posted on 09/04/2009 11:14:27 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Is BUCKHEAD’s pager going off? Is the typewriter “good to go”? Was this found in a Mombasa KINKO’s? Where is Dan Rather’s producer? Did anyone check the number of toes? Inquiring mindless need to know......


15 posted on 09/04/2009 11:16:37 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: pissant

As I recall, there were some points that proved it to be a fake, but I forget.
I am what one would call a birther.
I just want Obozo to cough up a real birth certificate, then I will be satisfied.
For those who have not seen a real Hawaiian certificate, I link to one. It is much like one from any state. It is first issued in the hospital, and much like mine from Tennessee.
You will see, it has the hospital name, doctor’s signature, mother’s signature...things that would be very hard to forge
as in the stupid “certification” that all then Obots rely on.

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/zczc3185/Birth_cert_coats_7c.jpg


16 posted on 09/04/2009 11:27:06 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: pissant

Considering is rather unsuccessful career as a con artist, he’s obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


17 posted on 09/04/2009 11:27:08 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: pissant; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

18 posted on 09/04/2009 11:30:28 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: pissant
Lucas filed a declaration with the court in California concerning how he had gotten a hold of Obama’s birth certificate and submitted the birth certificate along with the declaration.

We should find out what the affidavit says.

19 posted on 09/04/2009 11:45:32 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant
Now _that_ is a baby footprint! Definitely not cropped and blown up from Dr. Ang’Awa’s academic paper, which was my last remaining personal suspicion regarding the document.

It looks to me like there is a partial fingerprint, perhaps a thumbprint, on the document to the left of KANYADHIANG, perhaps left by the very person who inked baby Barack’s little foot! Wouldn't verification of that print make for great forensic validation!

Shall we all stipulate to a whole range of ad hominem criticism directed at Orly and Lucas for various prior shortcomings to get that out of the way? As I said before, if Obama knows this is a valid document he may well resign this week.

20 posted on 09/04/2009 11:48:44 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Obongo has dropped out of sight and Biden is on the scene..hmmmmm

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21 posted on 09/04/2009 11:56:17 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Red Steel

It’s on this website

http://www.firedupmissouri.com/content/jones-davis-and-taitz-file-new-forged-kenyan-birth-certificate-federal-court


22 posted on 09/04/2009 11:58:19 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel

Here tis on another FR thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2327189/posts?page=692#692


23 posted on 09/04/2009 12:00:54 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Very interesting but one thing puzzles me.....Kenya was still part of the British Empire in 1961 therefore it is unlikely that the date would be written “8/5/1961” or “8/7/1961”. In Britain, August 5th 1961 would be written 5/8/1961.


24 posted on 09/04/2009 12:01:54 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Kartographer

(From Dumb and dumber) So....there’s still a chance!!!


25 posted on 09/04/2009 12:02:27 PM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Churchillspirit

Methinks its a fake. The question is why on earth would this guy sign an affidavit attesting to it being real? Is he that stupid, or is he being paid to throw mud into the gears.


26 posted on 09/04/2009 12:04:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

If only Barry had 12 toes. Then we would know for sure.


27 posted on 09/04/2009 12:04:57 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Churchillspirit

See my two previous posts:

Wiki has a color-coded global map of countries using different date formats and Kenya jumps out all by itself (in purple) as using two formats, one of which matched the Lucas Smith video. It would be possible for Wiki to have been hacked and those with “way-back” investigative skills might want to see how long ago Kenya was shown as using two date formats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format#Date_format

List of the world locations by date format in use:

Kenya (d/m/yyyy and m/d/yyyy)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2322189/posts?q=1&;page=114#114

An Obot named “Mystylplx” was forced to admit that after this information was posted on Lucas Smith’s Youtube site, she(?) hacked the Wiki date format page and removed the dual date format listing for Kenya, although the color-coded map still shows Kenya in purple as a dual date format country. This would seem to show some hypersensitivity on this point, which shouldn’t worry “them” if it weren’t true.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2322189/posts?q=1&;page=120#120


28 posted on 09/04/2009 12:10:52 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Filed with Court Declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith and a copy of Kenian hospital Birth Certificate for Barack Hussein Obama
September 4th, 2009

From Dr. Orly’s site:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Filed with Court Declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith and a copy of Kenian hospital Birth Certificate for Barack Hussein Obama
September 4th, 2009


29 posted on 09/04/2009 12:11:14 PM PDT by patriot08
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Filed with Court Declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith and a copy of Kenian hospital Birth Certificate for Barack Hussein Obama
September 4th, 2009

From Dr. Orly’s site:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Filed with Court Declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith and a copy of Kenian hospital Birth Certificate for Barack Hussein Obama
September 4th, 2009


30 posted on 09/04/2009 12:11:20 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: pissant

It would be great to see the contents of the affadavit and the filing details.

I do so want to believe...but, the history to this point is not particularly encouraging.

The anointed one can resolve this very quickly.


31 posted on 09/04/2009 12:12:32 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: patriot08
Obongo has dropped out of sight and Biden is on the scene..hmmmmm

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Biden on the scene?

32 posted on 09/04/2009 12:13:13 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Well, he’s popped up and making speeches...
Why’s Obongo so quiet?


33 posted on 09/04/2009 12:15:30 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Red Steel

Well, he’s popped up and making speeches...
Why’s Obongo so quiet?


34 posted on 09/04/2009 12:15:42 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: pissant
I'll put what Smith said to the court here from your first link:

" I traveled to Kenya and Mombasa in particular with the intent to obtain the original birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama, as I was told previously that it was on file in the hospital and under seal, due to the fact that the prime minister of Kenya Raela Odinga is Barack Hussein Obama's cousin.

I had to pay a cash “consideration” to a Kenyan military officer on duty to look the other way, while I obtained the copy of the birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama.

The copy was signed by the hospital administrator.

The copy contain the embossed seal.

The true and correct photocopy of the Birth certificate obtained, is attached to this affidavit as Exhibit A."

35 posted on 09/04/2009 12:18:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Orly & Lucas Smith have entered Obama’s Kenyan BC in Keyes Case as evidence in Court for Sept 8

Filed with Court Declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith and a copy of Kenian hospital Birth Certificate for Barack Hussein Obama
September 4th, 2009

THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW JUDGE CARTER HANDLES THIS!!! Looks like Orly and Lucas Smith have been in contact.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Court Declaraton By Lucas Smith

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lucas-smith-declaration-21-621x1024.png

Copy of Lucas Smith motion filed by Orly

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/lucas-smith-declaration2-621x1024.png

Copy of Kenyan BC filed in Keyes Case

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com

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36 posted on 09/04/2009 12:18:33 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: patriot08

Biden’s “6 month” Obama crisis LoL!


37 posted on 09/04/2009 12:22:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant

If it is fake, Lucas and Taitz are in over their heads. The judge will come down hard. The LF/BC issue will disappear. Even if Lucas genuinely belives what he obtained is accurate.

I would bet there a few souvenir shops in Kenya that are selling these things...and making good money.


38 posted on 09/04/2009 12:30:01 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Thanks for you reply.

It is interesting that Kenya is the only country in the world using both dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy.

39 posted on 09/04/2009 12:36:03 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Red Steel

40 posted on 09/04/2009 12:42:42 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: patriot08; Red Steel; pissant; Fred Nerks; mojitojoe; MHGinTN; null and void; Vendome; ...
Why’s Obongo so quiet?

Internet rumor says 0bongo is observing Ramadan, August 22, 2009 through September 16, 2009.

41 posted on 09/04/2009 1:15:44 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: PubliusMM
.but, the history to this point is not particularly encouraging.

The anointed one can resolve this very quickly.

And history clearly points that Obama won't resolve nothing.

42 posted on 09/04/2009 1:15:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant

Or possibly persuade a judge to move to the next step to seek discovery of Obama documents.


43 posted on 09/04/2009 1:33:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LucyT

Of course he is. The dates coincide perfectly. He’s looking a little thinner too.


44 posted on 09/04/2009 1:41:19 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: pissant

I wish Jim Thompson would get off his mail delivery route, find Lucas and bitch slap him.

Tard.


45 posted on 09/04/2009 1:47:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pissant

See now I am not even going to bother looking at this document in any detail but, this you can tell is definitely scanned.

You can tell by looking at how the document is mishapen due it being impossible to eliminate the document “handling” artificats such as rolling, edging and the scanner edge feature in the lower right hand corner.

This is unlike the fake of Barry O.’s that has folds and supposed raised features but, unlike the perfect rendition containing no artifacts, no folds, margins that were electronically improved and made even and pristine, almost as if were computer generated, not scanned.


46 posted on 09/04/2009 1:55:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: traderrob6

That’s not good enough! /s


47 posted on 09/04/2009 2:03:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Churchillspirit
For what it is worth on the Wiki site, Canada (also a former UK colony with a history of merging two cultures: English and Quebec French)is also reported to use the same two date formats as Kenya, plus a third format! See color code brown on the map. Kenya colony and Mombassa Protectorate of Kenya (leased from Zanzibar) might have had different date format traditions that carried over into the merged country.
48 posted on 09/04/2009 2:15:38 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: AlexW

Sorry about the formatting on the following

Which Birth Certificate?

 

  1. The one that was with his Kindergarten records?  Those records and that copy mysteriously have disappeared.

 

  1. The one that some White Spokesman referred to as having been vaporized in some house fire, in 1972?  What country was that one from, in whose possession was it and why did they have it?

 

  1. Assuming he had a birth certificate that was vaporized, in 1972, What Birth Certificate did he use to obtain a passport?  What Birth Certificate did he use to obtain admission into college and get college loans?

 

Now, the best part:

  1. Where is the Birth Certificate he found among his mother's belongings in 1995, when she passed away?  He wrote about it in one of his books and expounded about why it was there.

 

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

 

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

 

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

 

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

 

Where are those Birth Certificates?


49 posted on 09/04/2009 2:28:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pissant

Like the picture of a Ogabe’s alleged BC from Orly and this one.....the birth name is the first thing that makes it suspect in my book. Barry Obama was most likely his birth name. Then he became Barry Soetoro, then he switched back to Barry Obama....then decided on Barack Hussein Obama(Jr., II, etc). Different spelling of Barrack/Barack......

Plus the fact that Inspector Clouseau(Lucas Smith) and his cohort colmado_naranja has such an extensive criminal past that any sane person should take this with a pillar of salt.


50 posted on 09/04/2009 2:40:11 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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