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Obamacare rumors (VANITY)
Vanity | 9/5/09 | Erkyl

Posted on 09/05/2009 10:41:28 PM PDT by erkyl

I heard a rumor from a friend tonight who said there was a group of Drs. in Dallas who recently sat down with Rep. Pete Sessions in a private 'town hall'. Apparently Pete Sessions says that Pelosi has been in Washington this whole time re-writing the health care bill, that Republicans don't have the votes to stop it in the house (nor do they have the votes to stop it in the Senate) and they are going to ram this thing through in the middle of the night.

Anyone heard anything on any of these rumors?


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare

1 posted on 09/05/2009 10:41:28 PM PDT by erkyl
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To: erkyl

Please keep us informed...and thanks!


2 posted on 09/05/2009 10:42:38 PM PDT by Stayfree
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To: erkyl

The vote will be close in the House and won’t be “in the middle of the night”. Wait til you see how many show up in Wash. DC Sept 12th.... This aint over til the fat girl sings.


3 posted on 09/05/2009 10:44:20 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: erkyl

If in fact they skulk about in the dead of night and shove this bill through, there ought to be an outcry unlike no other from ordinary citizens. Every single elected official who supported such a move should be recalled, nevermind waiting for 2010. This is not representation, this would be tyranny.


4 posted on 09/05/2009 10:44:34 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: erkyl

It all depends if they rats are willing to commit political suicide to get obamacare passed over the objections of the public.


5 posted on 09/05/2009 10:44:52 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Stayfree

Makes sense to me, in that I don’t think Obama would be supposedly proposing a bill unless he had the votes for it already lined up.


6 posted on 09/05/2009 10:45:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: erkyl

if the Democrats stick together they can pass anything


7 posted on 09/05/2009 10:47:23 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: 9YearLurker

Makes sense to me, in that I don’t think Obama would be supposedly proposing a bill unless he had the votes for it already lined up.<<<<<<<<<

But then common sense would dictate that Obama wouldn’t hire Van Jones, who turned out to be a political time bomb and ended up forced to resign already. It’s not like his past was hidden!


8 posted on 09/05/2009 10:47:58 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: erkyl

They did exactly that with the bailout-stimulus, and they’d have already done it with the health bill a month ago if they had the support from their own side to do it.

They didn’t, which is why they subjected themselves to the whole “town hall” mess. They didn’t do it to convince us, they did it trying to convince their own people.

I don’t think their own are on board yet. If they were, they’d pass this thing so fast our heads will spin. They’d pass it and finish writing it later. If they had the support from their own side. Thats the problem. They are blaming us, but its lack of support on their side that is the hold-up.


9 posted on 09/05/2009 10:48:23 PM PDT by marron
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To: Mjaye

>Every single elected official who supported such a move should be recalled, nevermind waiting for 2010. This is not representation, this would be tyranny.

I would go for something more than simply “recalling” them... isn’t there a State Motto that says: Thus Always to Tyrants?


10 posted on 09/05/2009 10:50:47 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: erkyl

The 2nd Amendment makes its presence felt should any of this happen.


11 posted on 09/05/2009 10:50:57 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Mjaye

Nah, look at all the commies, including himself, that Obama’s got hidden in plain sight. Whenever he gets called on something, with the press giving him faulty ‘coverage’—it’s the exception rather than the rule!


12 posted on 09/05/2009 10:52:27 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: marron

An NBC pollster told Chris Matthews that “several ‘swing Democrats’ are planning not to attend the speech [Obama’s speech to Congress] because they don’t want to be seen in the chamber during the speech.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2333047/posts


13 posted on 09/05/2009 10:53:09 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: erkyl
I've been reading stories that the WH is now drafting its own healthcare proposal. I hadn't heard any stories about Pelosi working, more or less, on her own bill. I think there are are enough Dem votes in the House to pass the bill; the Senate is a little more iffy -- although I think the Senate bill will go to a straight up-and-down vote. I've also read some reports saying that the WH and Dem reps are psyched by the fact that despite all the town hall confrontations, national polls still show a majority of Americans want a public option.

Word of caution: almost none of my predictions come true.

14 posted on 09/05/2009 10:58:52 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: erkyl

let em try.


15 posted on 09/05/2009 10:59:41 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: erkyl

Obama has said that he *will* fix health care this year, pretty much come hell or high water. Pelosi & Co of course say that they *will* have a path to full government takeover in the final bill. Charlie Rangel thinks he *will* give the IRS more power through this bill. Some congressional idiot thinks the bill *will* empower the government to demand and disseminate any and all heretofore private information. And so on.

The seminal problem is that the “health care” (insurance?) bill is intended to destroy the rule of law under which we once lived, and fully replace it with the rule of a few men. [Note: men, not people; no women ever achieved positions of power in the Soviet Union.] So the really bad news is that destroying our laws is destroying our present government. The only good news is that it will be hard, but simple to destroy the unwelcome new government.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 11:04:21 PM PDT by JohnQ1 ("Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever." Oscar Wilde)
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To: erkyl

I put nothing past this crew.


17 posted on 09/05/2009 11:12:03 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: erkyl
I heard a rumor from a friend tonight who said there was a group of Drs. in Dallas who recently sat down with Rep. Pete Sessions in a private 'town hall'. Apparently Pete Sessions says that Pelosi has been in Washington this whole time re-writing the health care bill, that Republicans don't have the votes to stop it in the house (nor do they have the votes to stop it in the Senate) and they are going to ram this thing through in the middle of the night.

B.S.

Pelosi re-writing the bill? What, by herself? Laughable. Like she understands half the words in the 1000+ bill(s).

OF COURSE, the GOP doesn't have the votes! Hello! They are in the minority. Geez.

So the House is going to ram through a bill that the Senate won't pass? This would be political suicide for almost every democrat in the House. And for what? For a bill that will never become law?

And why would Pelosi be doing this, when the democrats have said to Obama "PLEASE HELP AND GIVE US A BILL!"

Nope, not even close.
18 posted on 09/05/2009 11:18:24 PM PDT by GLDNGUN (PALIN/GINGRICH 2012 since 7/04/09)
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To: erkyl

I would totally believe this but don’t kid yourself....Medicare is already implementing these ideas—they have a captive audience.


19 posted on 09/06/2009 1:59:07 AM PDT by applpie
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To: Mjaye
Every single elected official who supported such a move should be recalled, nevermind waiting for 2010. This is not representation, this would be tyranny.

Does this "Recall" thingy involve tar and feathers?

20 posted on 09/06/2009 2:08:35 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: MediaMole
It all depends if they rats are willing to commit political suicide to get obamacare passed over the objections of the public.

Based upon events in Venezuela, and the atttempt in Honduras; I don't believe the democrats are plan to hold any more elections.

21 posted on 09/06/2009 2:15:12 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

Does this “Recall” thingy involve tar and feathers?<<<<<<<<<

I suppose “recall” is a mild term to describe what they deserve. Not making threats, of course, just sayng we should take every legal step to see that they are out of office if they turn their back on a huge number of Americans and vote for this bill in the dead of night. Darned over-regulation of petroleum based sticky product combined with down-like avian artifacts.


22 posted on 09/06/2009 2:35:17 AM PDT by Mjaye (If this is where we wanted to end up, we all did everything perfectly.)
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