Posted on 09/10/2009 11:25:51 PM PDT by CyberRBTmail
Tonight (September 10th), Bill OReilly interviewed Ann Coulter about ObamaCare and other related topics. This is a heated debate with OReilly moderately supporting Obama.
Video: Bill OReilly Inverviews Ann Coulter about ObamaCare
I’m expecting BOR to retire after the elections next year and then ... GB will move to his time slot. :)
It’s time Fox gave 0’Reilly’s timeslot to Glenn Beck.
Ann was losing her patience with Mr. In Between. Middle of the Roaders drive me insane. They always want to be loved by everybody.
Interesting just how much those three letters really represent the man - B-O-R (bore)
Past time. Come on Fox, grow a pair. Take BOR out and put GB in.
Ted Baxter needs to move over to CNN, Fox could then give Glenn Beck his time slot and give Ann Coulter Beck’s current time slot. Win/win/win.
Don't say that. There's a mud head at MzNBC that now has to battle BOR and Beck.
[wonder if he uses what the astronauts use?]
Private insurers do deny people for bs reasons. I greatly think competition is needed, but I will say that I don’t think that ensures certain people coverage.
And yes, I don’t think Obama can live up to his words.
You referring to Olberfuhrer at PMSNBC?
Ann Coulter ate his lunch !
O’Reilly has Multiple Personality Disorder. Today I’m a champion of the fiscally conservative. Tomorrow, I’m inviting Van Jones to give him a fair and balanced platform so the American people understand his worth.
Next week, I might give another interview to my friends on The View but only if they have Michelle Obama on too — she is such an inspiration !
Actually, I think O’Reilly is totally pissed, around the bend pissed, that Glenn Beck is also eating his lunch. He oozes snarky.
(Retire O’Reilly.)
Way to go Ann!
O'Reilly seems to have guests on just so he can talk over them, raising that right hand.
Yes on the first, but I've thought of MsNBC from the Donahue era (Ms as in Miss, alternate Mz, as in can't decide).
I'm not sure if the network is androgynous, foolish or just kicking back and taking what they can get within the law?
In any case, I'll continue to use and think of the call letters to represent an Alan Alda: Ms (miss) NBC.
Tonight he had another smut segment. I turned it off. He really gets off on ‘em.
I sell health insurance.
A HUGE number of the people who complain about “pre-existing conditions” denial of coverage are -—
DEAD BEATS who REFUSED to buy coverage, when they were HEALTHY!
Ann looked great in her white suit and yes she made BOR look like the pinhead he can be.
I have a family memeber that was denied by two companies, even though she said that she would not use them for the services she required on that specific issue.
And sorry, she’s not a dead beat...she got laid off. I think it’s rather loose how you describe these people. Perhaps that’s true in some cases, but I think it’s rather cold to generalize like that.
We can hope the BOR slot goes to Ann!
And then there’s people like me —
We’ve paid for the best medical insurance for 20 years. Family plan, every month.
I’ve had a physical a year. Two children. Period. No surgery. No prescriptions. Nothing but a physical and natural birth.
So, to keep it all fair and balanced — I’ve probably paid, oh, $60,000.00 for me alone and got a lot of nothing albiet I didn’t need anything.
Good news though ! I have no pre-existing conditions so when I get a “condition” I can milk it - take my insurance company to the cleaners ! No, they’ll start to deny. They’ll look at their current balance statements, yesterday is gone and determine what and how they’re going to deny me.
Knock it off. You offer the service so surely you know that there will always be clients who are going to get more than their money’s worth but, then again, there are those who will always be in the black. And then they drop dead and your home free.
DISCLAIMER: I am not for government health care. But - don’t try to tell me that insurance agents and insurance company’s haven’t enjoyed a long term cash fest.
Uh huh. Just as I thought. And he's seen Obama's real birth certificate too, and has pronounced the whole eligibility controversy a kook conspiracy.
Get off the phone, ya big dope!
And sorry, shes not a dead beat...she got laid off. I think its rather loose how you describe these people. Perhaps thats true in some cases, but I think its rather cold to generalize like that.”
So you just natural figure your neighbors should pay for her care? There is a difference between charity and tyranny.
That’s not me. I’d LOVE to purchase health insurance, but because I have high blood pressure (completely contained with meds) NOT ONE COMPANY I applied to would sell me health insurance, not one single company.
That ain’t right...and as far as refusing to buy it, I had company health insurance until I was laid off, then paid $600/month for COBRA, which ran out, now I’m totally sol if I have a heart attack, cancer, severe injury, etc.
Our health insurance system is broke when a healthy guy of 50 with nothing medically wrong except for easily treatable high blood pressure CANNOT get one single company to sell him health insurance.
God help me, but I’m actually rooting for the Democrats on this one, God help me, I’ve never done that before...but something is wrong with a system that will not, or cannot, allow me to purchase health insurance.
Ed
You are flat out lying about me.
How dare you...
Ed
I’m flat out stating facts. How dare you expect others to pay your health care bills. Because that is the only way that the government can guarantee you coverage.
I just filed an abuse report against you.
I will not take being called a liar by anyone in this forum.
Ed
Good luck with that.
You got that right. I can’t bring myself to watch him anymore.
Sure you make some points but you should check out Health Savings accts. Like you For years I paid thousands into Insurance and never went to the Doctor but at least with a Health Savings acct. Some of that money goes into your own Bank Acct. and if you take care of yourself you build a nice little savings there and at 65 use some of it for other things
What the hell are you talking about!? This has nothing to do with Obamacare,...it has to do with common sense. If a person is being denied coverage for something they’re not going to use....what the hell is wrong with that!?
Now, before you or anyone else gets upset about the “coverage gap denial” issue, let us be clear:
MEDICARE does the SAME THING! If you do not accept Part B of Medicare, when it is first available to you (usually at age 65) You will pay a PENALTY of 10% per year for every year of uninsured but eligible time.
Same as for Part D drug coverage, but the penalty there is 1% per month of uninsured but eligible time.
Now, if you can prove “Creditable Coverage” then you can get out of these penalties, IMMEDIATELY upon termination of that coverage.
However, you might have to wait until the 1 January, of the FOLLOWING YEAR, for Part D coverage, or you might have to wait several months if you have no “credible coverage” before your Part B kicks in.
In other words, there are very, very few things that private, for profit insurance companies do, that the government does not do ALL THE TIME! (Such as DENY coverage or rate coverage or force a waiting period on coverage).
You did not do a very good job researching your options.
I have very little sympathy for you.
The State of Oregon has several options, and YOU decided NOT to take advantage of any of those options, it seems:
http://www.cbs.state.or.us/external/ins/news_releases/2008/120908-healthinsurance-jobloss.pdf
Oregon High Risk Pool:
Oregon High Risk Pool RATES:
http://www.oregon.gov/DCBS/OMIP/docs/premium_rates.pdf
You either do not know what you are talking about, or you want all of the rest of us to PAY for your needs.
If we decoupled individual and group insurance from State mandates, we all could save money on insurance premiums.
Amen!
You, on the other hand, simply do not understand the PURPOSE of insurance.
Are you mad that you have not DIED yet, so now all of your LIFE INSURANCE PREMIUMS were “wasted”?
Cry me a river!
Thank your lucky stars that you did NOT get your money’s worth, of your insurance, at least, not yet. If your insurance pays off, it means something REALLY bad happened!
Grow up! You have insurance so that you can sleep at night, you have it for your peace of mind.
The purpose of health insurance is to protect your credit rating.
The purpose of health insurance is to help you avoid bankruptcy court.
If you have no wealth, if you have no money, you probably DO NOT NEED health insurance.
If you DO have money, or savings and investments:
THE PURPOSE OF HEALTH INSURANCE IS TO PROTECT WHAT YOU OWN!
You were responsible enough to obtain health insurance, but you are acting like a spoiled brat, when you feel that the premiums, over your lifetime, were somehow “wasted”!
I have several very sick clients who would LOVE to change places with you.
Again, cry me a river!
My insurance agent was the one who sent out all the applications, all of which were returned to me saying they don’t cover pre-existing conditions.
I’m on the waiting list for the Oregon Health Plan, but there were 200,000 more applicants than applied and I wasn’t chosen last year.
I have NO problem whatsoever paying for health insurance, shoot...I paid $600 a month on my COBRA until it expired, but I cannot get it...I applied to the Oregon health Plan, I wasn’t selected, they sent me another application last week, I applied again, hopefully I’ll get it.
I asked my agent about the High-Risk pool, he told me it is only for people with existing serious diseases, like AIDS or cancer. I am healthy, except for controlled high blood pressure, for which I’m taking Diovan.
I have tried for the last two years to get health insurance, my insurance agent (who died last week, sadly) busted his butt trying everything he knew, but I cannot get insurance from any carrier.
I am not ill, so I don’t apply for the high-risk pool, and the only option left for me is to hopefully be chosen for the Oregon Health Plan.
My girlfriend’s rates just went up one dollar, they sent her a letter saying that there’s a new tax to pay for adding more people to the Oregon health Plan, so they do plan on adding more people.
I even applied to be a research subject of some university who is doing a study on health insurance, they would provide medical care and study my progress (even though there’s nothing wrong with me!) but I wasn’t chosen for the full study, just for some study where I have to answer a bunch of questions and they send me a $5 bill!
Believe me, I have tried every avenue available to me...
Ed
If the older member “robbed the cradle” this might not work, as Cobra won't last more than 36 months, but the Medicare eligible spouse should plan for retirement, accordingly, and wait until the younger member is closer to 65. BTW, should have pinged you on a few of my other posts, on this thread, sorry.
Your case is more of a damnation of government plans than it is a damnation of private insurance.
Oregon is MORE socialized than most states, and Oregon, obviously, is messing things up!
Also, the “High Risk Pool” generally does NOT care about the cause of your decline.
All you have to do, in most cases, is PROVE you were declined for health reasons.
First, the government is not going to be “warm and fuzzy” but you seem to prefer the government, over private insurance. Why is that?
Have you ever heard of “Medicaid Estate Recovery”?? Type in the name of your State, followed by that phrase, into your browser. The government goes after your kids to pay your bills, if you go on Medicaid and DIE! Is this the “warm and fuzzy” government you want to handle ALL Of us?
Next, your facts are simply wrong, in every State the person involved would have qualified for some form of Guaranteed Issue coverage.
Again, the PURPOSE of health insurance is to protect your credit score, to protect your wealth.
The government should NOT be paying for 100% of the smaller expenses of doctors visits and check ups, and neither should private insurance.
A high deductible insurance plan, with a Health Savings Account, is the best way to go for most people under 65 who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid.
For those who can not obtain standard coverage, due to pre-existing conditions, THERE ARE GUARANTEED ISSUE policies in nearly every State! Yes, they are expensive, but they can protect your wealth, if you HAVE wealth. If you have no savings or assets?
Go on Medicaid or go Bankrupt! There is no shame in that, as long as you or your friend did your best.
Why should the NATION go bankrupt trying to protect individuals from going bankrupt?
Oregon is very socialist.
I live in Grants Pass, southern Oregon, which is still pretty conservative and rural.
I could easily prove I was denied, as I have so many letters turning me down, but Chuck, my insurance agent who’s been handling my insurance and handling my applications, told me I needed a doctor’s diagnosis that I have a serious illness, like cancer, AIDS, heart disease, etc.
Chuck just died, so I have to find myself another insurance agent...I’ll ask him, when I find him, if I could join just on the basis of all my letters turning me down.
Ed
Geez, WHERE the F*ck did I say anything about prefering Obama’s healthcare or national healthcare (or the government over the private industry)!? NO WHERE!
I’m not typing chinese here. I don’t need a lecture on how this all works. I’m informed and I don’t have a liberal position. It’s like I’m getting information from a person whom is neither fully conscious of how they’re behaving and that they’re assuming up the yink-yang.
Don’t bother replying,... because you wasted my time so far. If you could only read you’d actually have something worth talking about.
Go to the web sites I posted.
In most states, a simple denial letter grants you access to the guaranteed plan.
Alright, I’ll do that.
Thanks,
Ed
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