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Old Farmer's Almanac Agrees -- FROST WARNING!
Backcountry Notes ^ | September 12, 2009 | Jay Henderson

Posted on 09/12/2009 11:22:46 AM PDT by jay1949

The Old Farmer's Almanac has joined its competitor, the Farmer's Almanac, in predicting a cold 2009-2010 winter. For sunspot theory mavens and and global warming doubters, its on - - time to unpack the sweaters and toboggans.

(Excerpt) Read more at backcountrynotes.com ...


TOPICS: Outdoors; Politics; Weather
KEYWORDS: 20092010; almanac; farmers; winter

1 posted on 09/12/2009 11:22:47 AM PDT by jay1949
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To: jay1949

Farmer almanac is quite good...I predicted an early winter here in MIchigan because the moles started digging deep in August. I have a few huge mole mounds on my 4 acres...They don’t ususally go deep in August...But I could be wrong :O)


2 posted on 09/12/2009 11:25:53 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

Gosh, I wish we would have something close to a cold winter here in Phoenix. The heat never ends............or so it seems.


3 posted on 09/12/2009 11:26:40 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: goat granny

Moles are good. They don’t survive hard winters in shallow digs.

My mother’s father grew up on a red-clay farm in the middle of North Carolina. He could read weather signs with the best of them. When he said the pond would be frozen over by Christmas, by gosh, it was frozen over by Christmas. People now spend their entire lives in urban heat islands and have no idea what the weather is. Why else would they listen to a hypocrite like Al Gore?


4 posted on 09/12/2009 11:29:11 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: hsmomx3
But its a dry heat . . . right? Personally, I love having four seasons.
5 posted on 09/12/2009 11:30:31 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: jay1949

Algore’s retirement nest egg is starting to look a little wobbley.


6 posted on 09/12/2009 11:31:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans! "Behaving badly" since April 19, 1775!)
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To: ourusa

ping


7 posted on 09/12/2009 11:34:09 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Liberals feed on dead Senators and babies)
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To: jay1949

Are you sure about this because alBore lectured me today that we are supposed to die due to global warming.


8 posted on 09/12/2009 11:36:41 AM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: jay1949
time to unpack the sweaters and toboggans

I'll get right on that...but not gonna rush it too much; it's only 11:30 and it's already 103 here in our little desert.

9 posted on 09/12/2009 11:37:56 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not an Obama "Administration"....it's a "Regime")
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To: max americana

Al Gore doesn’t believe in global warming. If he did, he wouldn’t be living in an energy-wasting mansion and be flying in private jets to meetings of similarly-disposed global warming fans. I refuse to listen to Al for many reasons, one of them being, you wanna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk, and Al is nothing but talk.


10 posted on 09/12/2009 11:40:22 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: ErnBatavia

Oh, I think you desert-dwellers can probably get away with a light cardigan. ;>)


11 posted on 09/12/2009 11:41:52 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: jay1949

smiles to you...Farmers are good at reading signs...They are in tune with the change of seasons because they spend so much time outside..You can actually smell rain coming if your tuned to climate...Your right on city folk. They don’t pay attention because they don’t have to...


12 posted on 09/12/2009 11:42:39 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: ErnBatavia

Ouchy on your weather....but zero and 2 foot of snow and ice is a bitceh also..MIchigan has 4 seasons, June, July, August and winter...some would say 2 seasons, winter and road construction...


13 posted on 09/12/2009 11:46:20 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Lucky me! I have been looking for information on moles and your post tells me that others are having problems with them also. We have had a few every year but this summer our front acreage looks like a mine field. Another person I met while reading labels on mole treatments told me she was experiencing the same thing. Do you know of a good treatment to get rid of them? She also said, as well as us, that she had no ticks but fleas are worse than usual because of deer and squirrels and other wildlife. I think the ice storm might have taken out the ticks but why not the fleas? At least the moles stay outside. For now anyway. They are getting closer and closer to the front door.
14 posted on 09/12/2009 11:55:11 AM PDT by mountainfolk ( God bless America and our Republic)
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To: jay1949; All

For those unfamiliar with the term, “toboggan,” it is a flat bottomed wooden contraption designed to hold six or more people down a snowy slope. Each passenger behind the lead passenger crosses his/her legs around the passenger in front of him/her, thus making individual escape as the toboggan careens toward a tree nearly impossible.

Very popular with teenagers and drunk adults.


15 posted on 09/12/2009 11:56:48 AM PDT by Jacquerie (It is only in the context of Natural Law that the Declaration & Constitution form a coherent whole.)
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To: goat granny

Michigan and Maine share some common traits. I love Maine, but I go in May or June - - between “ice-out” and road reconstruction.


16 posted on 09/12/2009 11:57:51 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: mountainfolk

Be careful - - there’s nothing worse than a mole stampede.

A friend once decided that the best way to deal with moles was a boxer dog. He was right. That dog dug out every mole, groundhog, and rabbit he could scent. Jimmy’s yard looked like 3 acres of an artillery-practice range - - but it was mole-free.


17 posted on 09/12/2009 12:02:03 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: jay1949

What’s it say for the Northwest this Winter?


18 posted on 09/12/2009 12:03:33 PM PDT by cmsgop (Another proud graduate of the Larry Storch school of posting)
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To: cmsgop

If I recall correctly, both almanacs agree on mild to normal on the coast, chilly once you get to Idaho. You can check local short-range forecasts here: http://www.almanac.com/weather/


19 posted on 09/12/2009 12:08:17 PM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: mountainfolk
Yep, but don't laugh...I keep them out of my front yard but let them have the side yard and some area's of the back...First you need a dog...(I told you not to laugh). The you need to find an active run, you do this by stepping on some of the raised area's and if its raised again in a couple of days, that is an active run...they make blind areas and this will not work in a blind area....

Put on a pair of gloves, pick up some good smelling dog poo and make a hole in an active run (I use a large screw driver and open it enought to put in a piece of poo) I TOLD YOU NOT TO LAUGH. Put a stone over the hole and do it again in several area's of the run...

Moles live by smell and they don't like the smell of poo..They haven't been in my front yard for several years..

I tried everything from Juicy fruit gum, to smoke bombs and spearing traps...all to no avail...Dog poo works... Good luck

20 posted on 09/12/2009 12:14:07 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Jacquerie

Now that one is good for a belly laugh.....


21 posted on 09/12/2009 12:16:02 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: jay1949
The trees started turning in my area of Michigan during the last few days of August. That is about 4 weeks earlier then normal and two weeks earlier then I have ever seen it.

We had tart cherries to the end of July. Usually they are done by the first week of July. The Cherry festival had to truck in cherries from the south.

We have managed to grow and put up quite a bit of garden produce but it has not been hot enough to "sweeten" things like watermelon.

22 posted on 09/12/2009 12:23:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: jay1949

LOL :O)


23 posted on 09/12/2009 12:38:33 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Thanks for the suggestion. Not laughing. I am desperate. Dog poo might work but it will be more work for me than the dog or the mole. Our collie wanders all over, doing a little here and a little more there, at various times of the day. I heard about using moth balls and have used them the same way you describe. Using a long screwdriver to punch thru the tunnel and dropping several in. Just did that yesterday so if it does not work I will have to keep an eye on where Lady does her business. Our leaves are falling early and our weather, NW Ark, has been cooler and more rain than usual the last two months. The humming birds have left except for two and a few cardinals are back. Maybe winter weather really will be early this year.
24 posted on 09/12/2009 1:23:03 PM PDT by mountainfolk ( God bless America and our Republic)
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To: jay1949

I’m on the side of the ‘sunspotters’. This winter will be one for the books.

On the other hand, NOAA, the government, is saying that a growing El Nino will bring a warmer than usual winter to most of the US.

Which side will win? :-)


25 posted on 09/12/2009 1:50:31 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Hey Obama. Where is Osama Bin Laden?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
On the other hand, NOAA, the government, is saying that a growing El Nino will bring a warmer than usual winter to most of the US.

El Nino is not growing and has actually been slowly weakening. See the Sea water temps here.

What has been strengthening the past few weeks is the abnormally large cold water areas in the North East Pacific (North West US) and the North East Atlantic. You would expect this after the summer sun moves southward in fall, but the water seems to be cooling rapidly. The few hot spots near Eastern Russia and North Alaska are probably non-solar related.

26 posted on 09/12/2009 2:24:37 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: jay1949

Not always.....

I think four seasons are very healthy. Out here, our brains are fried at least 8 months out of the year. LOL!!


27 posted on 09/12/2009 5:11:33 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mountainfolk

I never thought of moth balls, but I’ll bet that will work also...Years back had squirrels in the attic of a home my hubby and I rented (just after getting married) Every department in the city I called just laughed..We finally found someone that said to throw a couple of bags of moth balls and ammonia soaked rags....The moth ball throwing was easy, the ammonia soaked rags just about knocked hubby out throwing them into the attic...But squirrels left...Here in Michigan its too late to try to get rid of the moles as they are going deep...I will be after them next spring if they show up in the front yard...good luck with the moth balls...


28 posted on 09/12/2009 7:37:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

We did something similar, but we used jalapeno peppers! It worked! We haven’t seen a mole in the yard since. It’s been over 10 years now.


29 posted on 09/13/2009 8:54:09 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: goat granny; mountainfolk

Also old road flares work well. Keep away from dwelling places.

30 posted on 09/13/2009 9:01:11 AM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: goat granny

Had flying squirrels in the house, once. Freaked the wife our. My kid whacked one with a tennis racket, and it wound up clinging to my face. Dunno which one of us was more freaked out.


31 posted on 09/13/2009 9:03:08 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: patton

OMG squirrels in living space can do a lot of damage, and it your case also to the face, I would have freaked out also..chuckles to you..:O)


32 posted on 09/13/2009 9:16:27 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: narses

You can get what I call mole bombs, they are to put in a run, but still don’t work as well as dog poo. I used a couple when I was on the farm...Cannot put near any buildings. I once had a rat problem and wanted to use one of those things in the hole under one of the barns...read warning and put loads of rat poison in hole instead...then covered hole to keep my birds from getting the poison...In my list of hatreds rats is second only to coons..


33 posted on 09/13/2009 9:21:09 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: narses
Thanks, I haven't seen that one but it looks like it means business. Moles beware!
34 posted on 09/13/2009 11:01:36 AM PDT by mountainfolk ( God bless America and our Republic)
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To: mountainfolk

Moles begone!


35 posted on 09/13/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: jay1949
Here in the high desert we had spring warm rains which never happens and right now tomatoes are taking FOREVER to ripen. Not sure what that means.
36 posted on 09/13/2009 12:44:14 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: narses

Touche!


37 posted on 09/13/2009 1:47:12 PM PDT by mountainfolk ( God bless America and our Republic)
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