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Patrick Swayze, Red Dawn, and Political Incorrectness
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Posted on 09/15/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey

Has any mainstream media outlet mentioned the Patrick Swayze movie that made moonbats nuts during the Reagan era?

A Politically Incorrect Vision of Guerilla War by John Milius When Hollywood decides to make a “controversial” film, it is usually about a subject or theme that the Hollywood community, which tends to be to the left of the political spectrum, agrees on and the movie watching audience does not. In 1984, director John Milius, fresh from successful films like The Wind and the Lion and Conan the Barbarian, decided to create controversy in a different way. He made Red Dawn, a film depicting the Soviet invasion of the United States and the efforts of partisans, mainly high school kids, to fight them off. Hollywood has never forgiven Milius for doing this.

Red Dawn starts in the “near future” (from circa 1984), when NATO has collapsed, Mexico has fallen to Marxist revolution, and America, in essence, “stands alone.” A High School history class in a small town in Colorado is being treated to a lecture about Geingas Khan. Quietly, almost unobtrusively, a Soviet parachute unit is dropping down in the footfall field outside. The teacher is killed, students are killed, and pandemonium breaks out.

A group of students, along with an older youth played by Patrick Swayze, flee into the wilderness, armed with hunting rifles and supplies taken from a gas station/convenience store owned by one of their fathers. At first they survive by hunting and fishing, but soon find that their town is occupied by a Soviet Army that is also comprised of Cubans and Nicaraguans. An incident with some Russians soldiers occurs with the Russians winding up dead, weapons are captured, and the guerilla war is on.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: reddawn; ronaldreagan; swayze
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1 posted on 09/15/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 09/15/2009 8:34:14 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Ge0ffrey
Wolverines !!!!!!!!!
3 posted on 09/15/2009 8:34:23 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Ge0ffrey

Wolverines!!!


4 posted on 09/15/2009 8:35:14 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: Ge0ffrey

5 posted on 09/15/2009 8:35:51 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Ge0ffrey

I’ve never seen this, but it seems like the kind of movie my little boy and I might like. Is it good?


6 posted on 09/15/2009 8:36:21 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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To: Ge0ffrey

In my 1985 memory book from high school this is listed as my favorite movie! Didn’t Al Haig help with the script?


7 posted on 09/15/2009 8:37:06 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Link doesn’t work

2 Https


8 posted on 09/15/2009 8:38:07 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: ottbmare

It is a great movie


9 posted on 09/15/2009 8:38:07 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: ottbmare

It is a most excellent movie, you need to see it. Very well done for the time.


10 posted on 09/15/2009 8:38:21 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: Ge0ffrey

They should make a movie of Vince Flynn’s “Term Limits”. That would really put the left into a tail-spin.


11 posted on 09/15/2009 8:38:35 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Here’s the link:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/24110/red_dawn_a_politcially_incorrect_vision.html?cat=40

I previously posted it incorrectly.


12 posted on 09/15/2009 8:38:37 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

I saw “Red Dawn” in a movie theatre in Santa Barbara in 1982. I’ve seen it many times since then, on HBO and video....I even have the soundtrack on vinyl and compact disc. Love the movie, love Patrick Swayze.

“Red Dawn” was a big “f” you to American liberals, the Soviet Union, the Cubans and the Nicaraguans at a point in time when all these groups richly deserved it. (Then again, they still do).


13 posted on 09/15/2009 8:40:04 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: Sybeck1

Kinda funny that Red Dawn is a favorite of characters of the sit com “Scrubs”.


14 posted on 09/15/2009 8:40:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: ottbmare

It’s entertaining.


15 posted on 09/15/2009 8:40:18 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: ottbmare
It is a most EXCELLENT movie and one of my favorites.
You and your son will love it.
16 posted on 09/15/2009 8:40:23 AM PDT by TxAg1981
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

“WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

If the Kenyan has his way, American guerilla movements will spring up in the mountains.

As for me, me and my cell are going to burrow in and conduct IED attacks in the city on the invading Chinese. It’s warmer.

On an historical note, I saw Red Dawn in Edgardtown on Martha’s Vinyard. As I clapped and cheered, the handful of liberals sat in stunned silence.

What a great movie!


17 posted on 09/15/2009 8:40:35 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: ottbmare

Whenever it’s on TV I end up stopping what I’m doing and watching it. GREAT movie!

VirginiaMom


18 posted on 09/15/2009 8:40:52 AM PDT by VirginiaMom
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To: cowboyway

Jed: “Russians!”

Matt: “Bush!”


19 posted on 09/15/2009 8:41:13 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Ge0ffrey
I get a bad link from your post.

I did notice that “Red Dawn” is rarely mentioned in the recent Patrick Swayze coverage.

Also not mentioned is that Swayze was the sixth cousin once removed of commentator John Cameron Swayze ( Timex, “It takes a licking and keeps on ticking” )

20 posted on 09/15/2009 8:41:26 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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21 posted on 09/15/2009 8:41:29 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: ottbmare

I got it on DVD a few years ago and watch it about once a year. I think it is actually a pretty entertaining movie. Some of the messages are a bit overt, but the lessons are good regardless.

It has more staying power than any of the last star wars movies, lethal weapon movies, etc.


22 posted on 09/15/2009 8:42:05 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: ottbmare

It was excellent! I need to go buy the dvd.


23 posted on 09/15/2009 8:42:27 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Ge0ffrey

I imagine that starting this weekend it will be non-stop Roadhouse and Dirty Dancing again on AMC.


24 posted on 09/15/2009 8:42:29 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying for -16 today.)
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To: ottbmare

Buy the DVD. Watch it on a nice cool fall evening when it is just you and your son......you will both love it.


25 posted on 09/15/2009 8:44:04 AM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: ottbmare

How old is your “little boy”? there is a lot of killing in it.....you might want to watch it first then decide.


26 posted on 09/15/2009 8:44:04 AM PDT by tioga ("You lie!" Joe Wilson 9-9-09)
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To: ottbmare

I know that at one time it was rated as the movie with the most killings ever shown in film . I wouldn’t rec. for kids under 12. ( when they can usually legally own a weapon or hunt )


27 posted on 09/15/2009 8:44:19 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: pgkdan

You can usually find a copy or two on dvd at pawn shops. Shoot, I have 300 movies and only a handfull were purchased new. If you’re paying more than $4 for DVD’s your paying too much. And THAT is an upper limit. ;)


28 posted on 09/15/2009 8:44:26 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: ottbmare

Yes, it’s really good.


29 posted on 09/15/2009 8:44:59 AM PDT by merry10
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To: pgkdan

I have most of his movies on tape......I will have to start collecting them on DVD.....Ghost was an awesome movie. My teenagers watched it and understood evil.


30 posted on 09/15/2009 8:45:10 AM PDT by tioga ("You lie!" Joe Wilson 9-9-09)
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To: qam1

The thing that ticked off liberals the most was the scene where the Cuban commander instructs his men to check the gun registration forms to find those that would likely put up the most resistance.

Interesting its being remade as we discuss this, btw.


31 posted on 09/15/2009 8:45:43 AM PDT by Badeye (www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Ge0ffrey
-one of my all-time favorites, along with Death Wish starring Charles Bronson--
32 posted on 09/15/2009 8:46:25 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: ottbmare
I’ve never seen this, but it seems like the kind of movie my little boy and I might like. Is it good?

The production quality is typical of the 80's, which is a bit lacking by today's standards.

But the plot, script, acting, etc.. All terrific!

33 posted on 09/15/2009 8:48:20 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: ottbmare

Its a very well made, written, directed and acted movie, although there are a few low-budget mistakes.

The main problem is the supposition that a consortium of Mexicans, Russkies, Cubans and other left-wing statists could launch a successful invasion of the USA.


34 posted on 09/15/2009 8:48:51 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Ge0ffrey
Red Dawn Remake
35 posted on 09/15/2009 8:49:54 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Ge0ffrey
Wolverines!

36 posted on 09/15/2009 8:50:03 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ottbmare

Yes


37 posted on 09/15/2009 8:50:52 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

At the Arlington?
I was probably there.
A fantastic Saturday afternoon movie with lots of popcorn.
Go Wolverines!!


38 posted on 09/15/2009 8:50:56 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: ottbmare
"I’ve never seen this, but it seems like the kind of movie my little boy and I might like. Is it good?"

Yes and they are doing a remake right now of it, but unfortunately with the way things are going you son may just get to live it!

39 posted on 09/15/2009 8:51:50 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Ge0ffrey

High school kids fighting communists who have attacked the US! That was a great movie but I swear I never saw it run again.

I hope there’s a lot of his movies on this weekend. I’ll record Red Dawn for sure.


40 posted on 09/15/2009 8:51:56 AM PDT by sazerac
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To: ottbmare

>>> Is it good? <<<<

Here are some other movies by John Milius, obviously they are all great fliks:

# Clear and Present Danger (1994) (screenplay)
# Geronimo: An American Legend (1993) (screenplay) (story)
# Farewell to the King (1989) (screenplay)
# Red Dawn (1984) (writer)
# Conan the Barbarian (1982) (screenplay)
# Apocalypse Now (1979) (screenplay)
# The Wind and the Lion (1975) (writer)
# Magnum Force (1973) (screenplay) (story)
# Dillinger (1973) (written by)
# The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean (1972) (original screenplay)
# Jeremiah Johnson (1972) (screenplay)
# Dirty Harry (1971) (screenplay) (uncredited)


41 posted on 09/15/2009 8:56:29 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: ottbmare
Red Dawn should be required viewing for all High School Seniors.
42 posted on 09/15/2009 8:58:01 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: TChris
The production quality is typical of the 80's, which is a bit lacking by today's standards.

True, although today's standards blow it sometimes, too. I just watched (in bits and pieces) 'Rescue Dawn', about Lt. Dieter Dengler's shoot down and epic escape from Laos in 1965. There were guys walking around a USAF base near the end in Woodland cammies, which didn't come out until the mid Eighties. (grumble)

43 posted on 09/15/2009 8:58:29 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: ottbmare

OMG, you’ve never heard of Red Dawn? Do you live on a desert island?


44 posted on 09/15/2009 9:00:13 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Vanders9

The movie seems to suggest that America was overrun pretty swiftly and everyone locked up.

The reality is far different than a handful of kids being the resistance. In reality an enemy would have to bleed for every inch.


45 posted on 09/15/2009 9:01:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Ge0ffrey
My favorite Swayze line from Red Dawn is from the collaborator/prisoner execution scene.

Russian Soldier/Prisoner: This violates the Geneva convention!

Jed Eckert (Swayze): I never heard of it!

46 posted on 09/15/2009 9:01:54 AM PDT by edpc (Spay and neuter your liberals)
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To: svcw

Actually, I saw “Red Dawn” at the Granada Theater in Santa Barbara. I could have sworn it was in 1982, but all the film biographies on Google say the movie was released in 1984.

I did see “Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom” at Santa Barbara’s Arlington Theater on July 15, 1984. I saw alot of other movies in that beautiful theater.

I just learned that Hollywood is doing a re-make of “Red Dawn,” scheduled for release on September 24, 2010. This time, the Russians and the Chinese are invading America, instead of the Russians and the Cubans. Also, the eldest Wolverine, Jed....the role played in the original movie by Patrick Swayze....is going to be a Marine on leave back home when the war begins. Kinda blows the premise of high school kids taking up arms and defending their town and their country; I just hope it’s not “politically correct.”


47 posted on 09/15/2009 9:03:06 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: ottbmare
Depends on how little the boy is.

In the middle of the cold war, it captured this 13-ish year-old boy's imagination. I'd be a little dubious about showing it to kids much younger than that, but then, I'm stodgy that way.

I saw it just recently; it hasn't aged well. :-) The idea of playing soldier, eating cans of beans three meals a day, and sleeping out in the snow for months at a time just isn't as appealing as when I was 12.

48 posted on 09/15/2009 9:03:06 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Ge0ffrey

Red Dawn Bump


49 posted on 09/15/2009 9:03:40 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

As I recall in the original, “Jed” was no longer a “high-school” kid either.

I could be wrong.


50 posted on 09/15/2009 9:06:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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