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The First Time I Heard of Barack (with additional info)
Free Republic ^ | Sept 19, 2009 | Tom Fife

Posted on 09/20/2009 1:17:34 AM PDT by BP2

Has anyone heard of this before? I did a search but came up negative.

Very interesting and if you list to the tape the man sounds very genuine.

Here’s his written confession which happened to a physicist when he was in Russia:

The leader of the Communist Party USA may not be the only one doing Communist cartwheels. Brace yourself for what I’m about to say next. Last fall, prior to the presidential election, a friend of mine, Dr. Wiley Drake, former second vice president for the Southern Baptist Convention, sent me an e-mail on which I didn’t report. It just seemed too extreme. It was from a software developer
he met named Tom Fife who told of how he first heard of the name “Barack.”

I can’t prove whether it’s true or not, but in light of all that is happening, it just doesn’t seem that far-fetched anymore. All I know is that Tom Fife is a real guy – not some e-mail scam. I’ve talked to him. He was a government contractor with an active security clearance who took notes on his trips for debriefings with the Defense Intelligence Agency within the Department of Defense. This is what he wrote down after it happened in 1992, before anyone ever heard the name “Barack”:

The first time I heard of Barack

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid-1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist, while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

“You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice president and you didn’t do it.”

The general response went something along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice president, but the president and vice president as a ticket.

“Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.”

The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she, black or not.

“What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?”

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.”

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”

“Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born, and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of presidents. He is what you call ‘Ivy League.’ You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your president.”

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black, so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: They would give us a black president and he’d be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the Legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”

At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn’t understand what the point was and don’t recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘Blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African,’” she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.”

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism, and Barack was going to pave the way.

So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30-plus years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

There have been attempts to discredit Fife with made up details, but the original version of Fife’s story is posted online. Fife can be reached at: thefife@hotmail.com.

Whether you believe this story or not, believe what the Communist Party USA has to say. Spending our way to the largest government in American history won’t stimulate anything … other than the agenda of the Communist Party: taking over the private sector and capping people’s salaries. And that’s just for starters. Call your senators at 202-224-3121 right now to stop this massive government takeover masquerading as a “stimulus” spending bill. Forget the hype: The world isn’t going to end if this bill isn’t passed, but democracy may end if it does.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=88439

Here’s the audio:
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_T_Fife_031009.mp3

Listening to the tape the man sounds authentic.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; communism; communist; communistcoup; cpusa; fife; liberalfascism; obama; president; putin; tomfife
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To: BP2
to me, this Obama does not look like the one in the White Hut.

Going a bit off the track here (and I might have misheard):
Wasn't there a lawyer who did research and found an "Obama" in a plane crash (maybe in Russia?) a long time ago? This lawyer then went on to say that there may have been many "Obama"s trained to be our President. The reason for many is for back up in case their main "Obama" met with an accident.

I know this sounds far fetched, but nowadays with all that's happening... anything is possible.

51 posted on 09/20/2009 2:34:54 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: mojitojoe

Where’s his accent? If he’s from EQ he would’ve had a slight French accent.


52 posted on 09/20/2009 3:32:27 AM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: mojitojoe

We need to talk to Luis Alonso, his roommate, and the other guy, Edu.


53 posted on 09/20/2009 3:33:20 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: BP2
I read this story weeks ago and I have to admit it is the first thing I thought of when I heard Zero had stabbed the Poles and Czechs in the back. Who knows if it's true but it sure answers a bunch of questions if it is. Sort of, "walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck," who knows maybe he is a MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE?

Μολὼν λάβε


54 posted on 09/20/2009 4:47:39 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: chuckles

“...a story that bothered me in the same vein was the one of the captured laptop in Columbia. It belonged to a high honcho of FARC. In it, we find an e-mail that mentioned Obama’s people would meet with Hugo Chavez. It assured the reader that Obama would be president.”

THIS has bothered me as well. Some good investigative reporting REALLY needs to be done.


55 posted on 09/20/2009 4:55:08 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

BTTT


56 posted on 09/20/2009 5:01:49 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: BP2
I believe that Communists said it back then and they believed it.

Obama is a biological and an ideological child of 1960s Marxist-Alinsky hippie street rabble.

57 posted on 09/20/2009 5:13:41 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: BP2

ping


58 posted on 09/20/2009 5:19:53 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: BP2

bookmark


59 posted on 09/20/2009 5:35:37 AM PDT by maggief
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To: BP2

This one just keeps rolling along,,,and growing!

Was Barack Obama Planted
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/was-barack-obama-planted-from-j-hansen/

The First Time I Heard of Barack Obama by Tom Fife
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-first-time-i-heard-of-barack-by-tom-fife/

UPDATE: The First Time I Heard of Barack Obama…
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/03/14/update-the-first-time-i-heard-of-barackby-tom-fife/

Obama’s Numerous Links With International Marxism Exposed…
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/09/14/obama%E2%80%99s-numerous-links-with-international-marxism-exposed-re-tom-fife-john-charlton/

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60 posted on 09/20/2009 5:36:50 AM PDT by gunnyg (SUFFER NO FOOLS -Gunny G)
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To: BP2

Thanks, BP2....Bump.


61 posted on 09/20/2009 5:38:57 AM PDT by azishot
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To: mojitojoe

I have seen this story a couple times. Not sure it was here or how I ended up on it. Oops, now that I recall, there was freeper, who had it on his personal homepage.

I like the story but, something about it rang untrue.

I guess I should actually read this post but, the first few words led me to believe it something to do with the story about Barry O. being a Soviet plant.

I will read it tomorrow. Something woke me up and I realized my computer was still on.

Need more sleep.

I will update you manan with my thought on.


62 posted on 09/20/2009 5:50:03 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: GeronL
I kinda sort of remember now but, I will do the research.

This story was presented anecdotally and was on Tom Fife's site.

It also appeared on WND and a gillion other sites. They way it ended up on these and how it was presented just seemed to be a very Hardy Boys story but untrue.

A cool story but, never the less, just a story.

Go ahead, do a search(Google).

It is not goofy and in fact plays to the 007 theme of Barry. There is some thought he was a spy and so was hi mother. Thing is he is so clumsy and not American, I can't imagine him playing Spy vs Spy.

I will get back to you.

63 posted on 09/20/2009 6:00:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

bttt


64 posted on 09/20/2009 6:08:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Purdue Pete

Ping


65 posted on 09/20/2009 7:13:33 AM PDT by lucyblue
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To: GeronL

Yes. French researchers went in very quickly after the Soviet union fell and grabed as much information from KGB files as they could. They wrote the “Black book of communism” from some of what they found. It catalogues data. Also information was found on communist spies in the communities and families who were informants on their own families and friends.

Apparently there is information on KGB relationships with American and European spies...but I think the Left in both countries have managed to cover that information up pretty well. Now the filed are closed to public viewing.


66 posted on 09/20/2009 7:55:40 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mojitojoe
Russians don’t particularly like black people, that’s what makes me suspicious. But maybe he was the only willing participant.

Do you think they don't think of 0bama as 'expendable'?

The US falls 'from within', just like Marx predicted. America suffers a civil war where most casualties are darker skinned (at least that's what the world wide MSM will report!), and Russia uses that little factoid to destroy our influence in every country that isn't lilly white (and to guilt/shame the lilly white ones into submission). Russia ascends to its 'rightful place'.

0bama gets the blame, America gets the shame, and Russia wins the game.

What's not to like?

67 posted on 09/20/2009 8:30:03 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 242 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Vendome; BP2
Go ahead, do a search(Google).

LOL! I watched google 'disappear' over half a million hits on image searches for "Obama Birth Certificate" in mid July '08.

I'm not the only one who has noted that google systematically eliminates any unfavorable data relating to 0bama. See also post #30 on this thread.

google? You're recommending google as an unbiased source???

No seriously, google?

Did I miss your </sarcasm> tag?

68 posted on 09/20/2009 8:42:56 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 242 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Mathews
Where’s his accent? If he’s from EQ he would’ve had a slight French accent.

Welllllllll, he does seem to think of surrender as our first option...

69 posted on 09/20/2009 8:44:38 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 242 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: BP2; mojitojoe
Odd the Chicago paper carried ran the story but used another guys name:

That's really odd. Any mention of Roman Obama?

"Placeholders"?

70 posted on 09/20/2009 9:06:39 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: wastoute; BP2

How many completely bizarre coincidences have to add up until the fact that they are not coincidental is apparent?


71 posted on 09/20/2009 10:36:23 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: chuckles

Course you might wonder why Hugo and Obama would be communicating while he was a Senator,
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That doesn’t surprise me at all. Look at what he did with Odinga.

http://iperceive.net/obama-odinga-the-kenyan-jihad/


72 posted on 09/20/2009 10:39:20 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: chuckles; BP2

Well, it doesn’t look like this can be proved, but a story that bothered me in the same vein was the one of the captured laptop in Columbia. It belonged to a high honcho of FARC. In it, we find an e-mail that mentioned Obama’s people would meet with Hugo Chavez. It assured the reader that Obama would be president. This was wayyyy before he was even close to Hillary. She was thought to be the front runner and a shoe in, but the e mail was sure it would be Obama. That same laptop info freed many hostages held by FARC and seemed to have given info on many things close to FARC and Hugo Chavez.

Course you might wonder why Hugo and Obama would be communicating while he was a Senator, but hey, he seems to have many commie friends. Another bone chiller is how did they know it would be him months before even the Dems even knew?

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Has this been verified? Do you have a link? I found several blogs, but I want to see this verified from a credible news source. Not that some blogs aren’t, but without a link it could just be opinion.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_obfuscates_on_chavez_far.html


73 posted on 09/20/2009 10:45:21 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Photo of Students stuck in Moscow.

The guy on the right, Obama — his head is way too big for his body.

Just sayin’.


74 posted on 09/20/2009 11:06:21 AM PDT by carolina71
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To: null and void

I can’t argue with anything you say. I wish I could. :(


75 posted on 09/20/2009 11:39:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: null and void

LOL. Google is evil. I’ve never seen such censorship was I have with Google and You Tube. You Tube did a 360 once Obongo came into the picture. They stop the view counts, refuse to put any video on the front page if it’s anti obongo. I don’t care if it has 3 million views in 12 hours. They are deep sixing it. It won’t get most views, most comments, rising video, nothing. It will get buried. It’s disgusting!!!


76 posted on 09/20/2009 11:43:48 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: carolina71

I agree. I’m not giving any credence to the photo. It’s the dates and name. They could have deliberately put a picture of other students, dropped the name in there to get the message out to send money, get Obama out.
1992 Obummer was 31. Law student. He was traveling to India, Indonesia, Africa, etc. The story in the paper fits his time line, age, everything. Could it be a weird coincidence? Of course. When you ad Fife’s story, it makes it a little more interesting, to say the least. We know O is a Communist. If anyone can deny that now, they seriously need to do their homework.


77 posted on 09/20/2009 11:49:10 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Anyone else notice the similarity between Sohale Siddiqi in the first photo and "Luis Alonso" in the second photo?

78 posted on 09/20/2009 11:51:58 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: BP2; null and void

I have some questions, do you have the answers to them?

What news organizations did Fife call or email when he was in Russia right after this happened?

Has anyone seen Fife, verified his credentials? Have any news organizations refused to tell his story?

The other people from the West that were their with him, who were they and did they hear the story too?

Why did he wait until Nov. 2008 to bring this up again? Did he not see the name Barack during the campaign and think OMG, that’s who the Russian woman mentioned. I need to get this out there now.


79 posted on 09/20/2009 11:53:45 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: carolina71

The guy on the right, Obama — his head is way too big for his body.
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Yes, it is.


80 posted on 09/20/2009 11:54:58 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: GeronL
is there a date on that paper?

There is on the linked version.. It is:
Thursday, February 13, 1992 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

81 posted on 09/20/2009 12:03:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: GeronL
Clearly not "our" Obama. But he does look like BHO Sr's family, and BHO Sr., himself. He also looks a bit like the young Barry O, say the one who met BHO Sr at the airport.


82 posted on 09/20/2009 12:45:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Thats interesting.

How did this country ever elect such an unknown to the WH?


83 posted on 09/20/2009 12:51:26 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: mojitojoe
Russians don’t particularly like black people,

That is true, in general. But that doesn't mean they aren't willing to use them for their own purposes. That's why that University was named after a black person, and why they paid for so many African, and brown Asian and South American "students" to go there.

84 posted on 09/20/2009 12:57:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: matt1234; BP2; LucyT

Could be. There are 2 other newspaper articles on this story. The Chicago paper has a different name and their story is different than the other two. You have to pay to get the story and I don’t want to give info and a credit card number. I wish someone in those those cities would go check out their stories in those papers.


85 posted on 09/20/2009 1:02:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2

I can’t see the full story in the other 2 papers. It’s like the Chicago paper did the same story, but on a different guy. I would love to know if there were photos with the story in the Chicago and the other paper. I think you can order is online to see it. It’s around 4.00 but I don’t want to give my name and use my credit card.


86 posted on 09/20/2009 1:08:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2; mojitojoe; null and void; Fred Nerks; LucyT; FARS

87 posted on 09/20/2009 1:17:14 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: mojitojoe
I heard of it first on FoxNews. It is true and can be found many places. The question always comes back to interpretation. Obama supporters try to say that it was speculation that Obama would win and FARC didn't really set up a meeting with Hugo. Translation from one language to another is sometimes fraught with problems, but from what I read( yes you can search and find the exact verbiage on some sites) , it looks like Obama was the shoe in and he wanted to talk to Hugo Chavez. Keep in mind Hillary was way ahead in the polls at the time.

Here's another interesting link if I can do the link thing.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/03/is_bill_clinton_a_closet_farc_1.asp

I think this article shows the Dems were working behind the scenes with some unsavories to work with FARC and not just Obama. The famous "Raul Reyes' laptop" can be Googled all day, I just don't have a bonified ABC, NBC, CBS web link( they probably didn't mention it). The laptop was captured, it has many classified objects in it, and the Obama e mail is common knowledge. The argument comes in whether it is damning or not. I for one don't like American Senators contacting America's enemies to make deals behind America's back. That is the problem I had with John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Obama( with Odinga) and many other Dems that are still in office committing treason. Maybe the FARC office pool had five peso's on Obama making president, but it looks to me like there are "unseen hands" at work to stack elections here. When Ted Kennedy went to Moscow to undermine Reagan as president, could it be the same with Hugo Chavez and Obama. It looks as if the deal was Obama would kill the free trade agreement we had with our ONLY real friend in SA, Columbia, for what? A HAND IN THE ELECTION? Who knows, Obama killed the free trade deal early on, now we will have high level talks with Hugo? We have terrorists on a Bahama beech while our CIA is lawyering up? The Poles and Czechs are left in a lurch and we are sucking up to Putin? Israel is on it's own and an adviser says we will shoot down Israeli planes over Iraq headed toward Iran? It is a topsy turvy situation now, comrade.

I agree with you verifying rumors on the web, but some are so "verifiable" that a link to the NY Times is no longer useful. The laptop needed a low profile because they are still using info found on it for intelligence purposes. If we got in a spitting match over here whether Obama was working with Hugo Chavez or not, the laptop wouldn't have produced the freed hostages without a drop of blood being spilled. Now after several months down the road, maybe we could start to explore what's on the laptop without hurting the fight against FARC. Same with Odinga and friends. If Obama broke the Logan Act to help a muslim murderer in Kenya, maybe we could look at the facts without a political overtone to it during an election. If you ask 100 people who Odinga is and why should I care?, you may come up with one or two that can even find Kenya on a map. Also as a reminder, these are his relatives in Africa. Wouldn't you be expected to support your uncle Merv in the city council election? Only problem is your relative lost the election and then started a revolution, beginning with burning down churches with the Christians in them.

88 posted on 09/20/2009 1:31:40 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: mojitojoe

This may be a different interview than the one posted here; many of your questions answered here. I listened to this a few months ago.

IIRC, He kept a diary of the conversation (My question was, Where is THE DIARY?) because he was asked to by the Defense Intelligence Agency (he had some clearance of sorts & corp he worked for did govt work);

There was at least one other American with him. When he heard of Obama’s name mentioned in the media, he sent out dozens of emails, calls, etc. No one would interview him until election day — think the interviewer was a man named Wiley.

This is all from recall, so listen to tape. He has also tried to track down the Russians. Don’t recall about the other businessman, except that he was protecting his identity for privacy reasons.

FWIW: As I listened to him I thought his story held together, wasn’t a publicity hound; hasn’t sold his story as far as I know, & was rather understated.

interview about 6 min into mp3:

http://www.therightperspective.org/Audio/2009/TRP_2009.02.27_Tom_Fife.mp3


89 posted on 09/20/2009 1:37:25 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: null and void

here you go /s lol


90 posted on 09/20/2009 1:49:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: chuckles

From day one, way back when, I always thought he violated the Logan Act by helping Odinga. Too bad they pretty much ignore the Logan Act because to me, this was a clear cut violation. This election was handed to him by SEIU, ACORN and the rest of their malignant, unethical, Pinko groups. Of course the dumbed down American Idol adorers that voted for an empty slogan did their part in getting this ass clown into office.


91 posted on 09/20/2009 2:59:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

You have to remember: Barack’s appeal to “those that brung him to the dance” WAS his color and his traditional way of speaking. This was their ace in the hole to get into the top position in the land, and it worked. They only had to get the mantle of Ivy League around him and they were golden. (How many other Presidents of the Harvard Law Review didn’t publish anything?)


92 posted on 09/20/2009 3:02:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Vendome

;^)


93 posted on 09/20/2009 3:07:39 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 242 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: mojitojoe
its like this badly manipulated photo- no way could Commie Stanly have a hand posed like that behind The One.

94 posted on 09/20/2009 3:45:38 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: BP2

I know there are people around here that have worked in intelligence.

Let me be clear..I have not..but this , to me, is very much like some kind of intelligence message.

They used stories in papers....and probably still do. The fact that the Chicago paper used different names is yet one more sign to me.

I don’t think the son of Frank Marshall Davis could have worked his way into the Defense Intelligence Agency given his crazy radical father unless his father was also involved in the Spook business.


95 posted on 09/20/2009 4:05:57 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: mojitojoe; All

A handy tip for online Obama researchers:

Put some $ on Visa giftcard and give it to yourself. Use it when needed to order reports, copies of newspapers, etc. That’s a trick Obama donors used last Fall to cover their tracks with campaign donations.

If registration is required for some reason, use an alias. They did that too, as Obama might have as Roman, Barry, etc


96 posted on 09/20/2009 4:32:05 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: matt1234
Anyone else notice the similarity between Sohale Siddiqi in the first photo and "Luis Alonso" in the second photo?

Yes! There is a resemblance.

97 posted on 09/20/2009 6:58:20 PM PDT by Faith
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To: RummyChick; chuckles; Fred Nerks; LucyT; FARS; El Gato; GeronL; matt1234; carolina71; chris37; ...


I know there are people around here that have worked in intelligence.

I try – as best as possible – to ensure my analysis is seated in prima facie and 1-2-3 mythology. Which is why I – very cautiously – disclose the following:

The original tip of this noticed correlation between the "Tim Fife" and "Roman Obama" stories originally came indirectly to researchers – earlier this year – via US Naval Intel.

A secondary source who passed this information to researchers is a “highly reliable person” who has background in the intelligence analysis specialty – some here would recognize his name if it were releasable.

Where US (or foreign) Intel services are on this issue currently – in Sept 2009 – I do not know. But as I understand it, there were factions of US (and foreign) Intel services – at least several months ago – who were unofficially following these leads and monitoring official communication channels for incriminating correspondence.

Understand that any “evidence” that an Intel agency were to derive and ACT UPON cannot simply be circumstantial – it MUST be an undeniable and legal "smoking gun". Furthermore, the implications of POSITIVELY CONFIRMING that a foreign “plant” infiltrated the US and is now the sitting POTUS would be unpredictable, if not devastating. It would shake the bedrock of American society, and have a similar destabilizing effect on the entire world.

If an Intel agency were to confirm this Obama “foreign plant” theory, I’m unsure if they would publicly announce it knowing the political and social chaos that would ensue – or if they’d rather attempt to try to minimize the damage through various “control mechanisms”?

In fact, one might even say the public release of such information might be one of those “control mechanisms”to send a message to him and his co-conspirators, such as, “We know, and we’re watching.”


I’ll sum this up by asking the following four logical questions:

1) Do you trust the MSM?
2) Do you trust the leadership in Congress? Photobucket
3) Do you trust this man? Photobucket

4) If NOT … then WHY on earth would you trust ANY OF THEM for properly and honestly vetting and/or disclosing damaging information about Barack Obama’s background and eligibility?


98 posted on 09/21/2009 12:17:50 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

To answer your questions, I trust none of them. In fact, I expect that all of them are lying to me all of the time for specific reasons in order to advance a specific plan. I don’t know what’s coming, but something is coming, and it’s going to be Hell.


99 posted on 09/21/2009 12:40:05 AM PDT by chris37
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To: GeronL; BP2; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; Pablo Mac; ...

No similarity of looks/body type.

FYI: BHO paper on Equitorial Guinea

http://egjustice.org/files/Obama%20Policy%20Paper%207-28-2009.pdf


100 posted on 09/21/2009 1:10:32 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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