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The First Time I Heard of Barack (with additional info)
Free Republic ^ | Sept 19, 2009 | Tom Fife

Posted on 09/20/2009 1:17:34 AM PDT by BP2

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To: mojitojoe; All


Remember when he went to Russia and he was detained?

YEP - and what an ODD incident that was, huh?

Charles Digges,
08-29-2005

Lugar delegation detained for three hours in Perm after inspecting nuke weapons facility

Part of: CTR
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US Senator Richard Lugar, who was briefly detained with a US delegation in Perm, Siberia, after inspecting the site, which is being dismantled with US funding.
Nils Båhmer/Bellona
A US delegation headed by Republican Senator Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was detained Sunday for three hours at an airport in the Siberian city of Perm, Russia before being allowed to leave the country for Ukraine in a diplomatically chaotic incident Sunday.

US officials were nonetheless anxious to downplay the incident in an apparent effort to avoid diplomatic fallout with the increasingly hard-line regime of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has publicly expressed dismay over a number of US-Russian disarmament programmes.

"It's unfortunate," Lugar said in an interview after boarding his plane bound for Ukraine, according to US and Russian press reports. "It illustrates a dysfunctional state where the left and right hand don't know what either is doing and people are enforcing their whims of the day without deference to the world."

Lugar, a 13-year veteran of cutting through US-Russian disarmament red tape, nonetheless put a tactful face on the incident.

"Russians in the past had placed severe limitations on inspections at these storage sites, so this is a significant breakthrough," said Lugar, who is the co-author of the 1991 Co-operative Threat Reduction programme (CTR) which he wrote with then-Democratic Georgia Senator Sam Nunn.

Lugar, Senator Barack Obama—the junior Democratic Illinois Senator also of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—as well as the rest of the US delegation, who are on a weeklong nuclear disarmament tour among former Soviet states, spent several hours at a weapons destruction site outside Perm before returning to the city airport, officials from the US Embassy in Moscow told Bellona Web Monday.

The delegation was in Russia as part of a week-long tour of major weapons facilities in former Soviet republics, where U.S. funds are being used to secure or destroy nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Russia recently agreed to open sensitive sites to U.S. inspection, a development that Lugar heralded at a news conference Friday in Moscow.

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Barack Obama, junior Senator from the US state of Illinois, who accompanied Lugar’s delegation to Perm.
Nils Båhmer/Bellona
The 41-year old Obama, having won one of Illinois’ two Senatorial seats in 2005, is seen by many on Capitol Hill as heir-apparent to many of the non-proliferation concerns spearheaded by Lugar.

Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs nor the Federal Agency for Atomic Energy (Rosatom) had any comment on the brief detention of the high-ranking US officials

The specifics of the delay
When the US delegation attempted to board their plane, local Russian border officials stepped in and demanded to search the American aircraft before takeoff. International law, however, protects the US military plane from searches, which lead to a stand-off between customs officials and the group.

American officials, citing a US-Russian agreement that does not allow such inspections, refused to allow the search of the plane, leading to the three-hour delay, according to Andy Fisher, a spokesman for Lugar who is on the trip.

Fisher said in a statement that the group was treated "just fine," although members were held in an uncomfortably stuffy room adjacent to the tarmac and allowed out onto an adjoining porch area only after they surrendered their passports.

"This is not the first time this has happened," said Fisher, noting that a delegation including Lugar was briefly detained two years ago in Perm. "It may be some kind of internal bureaucratic problem."

The seemingly bureaucratic misunderstanding escalated, ultimately involving the White House, the State Department, and a host of military officials in Washington and each of their Russian counterparts in Moscow, an official at the US Embassy said.

Lugar’s group arrived in Kiev, Ukraine, late Sunday. After Ukraine, the delegation is scheduled to visit Azerbaijan, US embassy officials said.

Senator Chuck Hagel also faced exit difficulties
Separately, a spokesman at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow said Nebraska’s Republican Senator Chuck Hagel was briefly delayed at an airport in another Siberian city, Irkutsk, because of a problem with flight clearance paperwork.

Hagel was in the region to tour a nearby natural gas deposit site as part of a trip to study energy issues. The issue was resolved after the embassy contacted the Russian Foreign Ministry, and Hagel flew on to Bulgaria, a diplomat in Moscow said.

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21 posted on 09/20/2009 1:51:13 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Vendome

Boring?


22 posted on 09/20/2009 1:51:30 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2
Well, it doesn't look like this can be proved, but a story that bothered me in the same vein was the one of the captured laptop in Columbia. It belonged to a high honcho of FARC. In it, we find an e-mail that mentioned Obama's people would meet with Hugo Chavez. It assured the reader that Obama would be president. This was wayyyy before he was even close to Hillary. She was thought to be the front runner and a shoe in, but the e mail was sure it would be Obama. That same laptop info freed many hostages held by FARC and seemed to have given info on many things close to FARC and Hugo Chavez.

Course you might wonder why Hugo and Obama would be communicating while he was a Senator, but hey, he seems to have many commie friends. Another bone chiller is how did they know it would be him months before even the Dems even knew?

23 posted on 09/20/2009 1:51:38 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Yaelle

Would they have groomed someone like an Obama to be the stealth candidate for President here?
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Russians don’t particularly like black people, that’s what makes me suspicious. But maybe he was the only willing participant.


24 posted on 09/20/2009 1:53:12 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2

Same article headlined”

Foreign Students’ Dream Life Crumbles

Feb 13, 1992

The Record (NJ?)
Surely we have NJ Freepers who can go and get a print out of this article from the archives?


25 posted on 09/20/2009 1:54:34 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Free-Lance Star feb 13

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4mwQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5osDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6655,2037468&dq=roman-obama

Clear Photo on this one


26 posted on 09/20/2009 1:55:42 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: BP2

So the guy that made the statement and audio tape can’t be located? Does he supposedly live in the US?


27 posted on 09/20/2009 1:56:06 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Vendome

See this, photo is clear too:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4mwQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5osDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6655,2037468&dq=roman-obama


28 posted on 09/20/2009 1:56:38 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: mojitojoe

See it here:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4mwQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5osDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6655,2037468&dq=roman-obama


29 posted on 09/20/2009 1:57:11 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL; All

Is there a Watertown Freeper who could go to their library and check this out?

It's been scrubbed from Google significantly, as well as other places online.

The copy from Watertown was acquired DIRECTLY from the newspaper Librarian many months ago. The fax header information is removed to protect the researcher who received it. I will vouch for its authenticity.

Watertown Daily Times
260 Washington Street
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone: 315-782-1000, 800-642-6222 (General)
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/section/contact

Lisa Carr
Chief Librarian
315-661-2445


30 posted on 09/20/2009 1:57:20 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Read a good part of it, particularly the story about the dinner in Moscow and the prediction by the wife of the Russian joint venture partner, an unrecostructed communist, after vodka, on Citizen Wells alongwith other interesting stuff. Thanks for the additional info.


31 posted on 09/20/2009 1:58:55 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: BP2

Regardless of whether this story has credence, we don’t need anecdotes to know who Obama is and what he stands for. His words and deeds on record speak for themselves. He told Chicago-based NPR in 2001 that the Constitution needs to “shift” from “a charter of negative liberties” to “saying what the federal and state governments must do on your behalf,” creating “redistributive change.” There is no question he means socialism, which has communism as its political brethren. So-called positive liberties are entitlements which have precisely the opposite effect of rights, curtailing liberty and empowering the state to control men’s lives. He is an avowed radical and a menace to liberty who surrounds himself with avowed radical menaces to liberty. Everything he does, everything he says, and everything he associates himself with should be considered suspect.


32 posted on 09/20/2009 1:59:28 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson (fightinwords.us)
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To: GeronL
TY, much better. The guy on the right looks older than 31. Photobucket
33 posted on 09/20/2009 2:05:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2

Spread the wealth! Sadly, his supporters either A)Don’t believe it or B) don’t care or C) think communism is good. Public education (indoctrination).


34 posted on 09/20/2009 2:05:52 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians, including republicans.)
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To: GeronL; BP2
“I have heard the story before but the newspaper is new.”

Same here. I read this story...I believe it was just before the election but I can't recall where.

Nothing but nothing would surprise me.

Our intelligence agencies need to come to our aid, now.

35 posted on 09/20/2009 2:07:37 AM PDT by Semper Mark ("The future ain't what it used to be." - Yogi Berra)
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To: GeronL; All

See this, photo is clear too:

The researchers following this believe the photo is fake/staged, as well as the name "Roman Obama". Both were fronts to protect the person who would eventually be "planted". The KEY was to feed the story to the AP, who would then publish it nationwide, and then eventually worldwide. It was meant to illicit a financial response from "supporters" for Obama and others trapped in deteriorating Russia.

BTW, notice the bottom headline on the Watertown version ABOVE (YES - it's very real):

New World Order Evolves as U.S. Falls Behind

Sorry, but ...

WTF?!


36 posted on 09/20/2009 2:07:47 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: mojitojoe

The reporter either got thir ages backward or got them all mixed up. She probably had notes and stuff and wrote the article somewhere else.


37 posted on 09/20/2009 2:08:03 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: BP2

I saw that too!!! I did a big WTF too.


38 posted on 09/20/2009 2:10:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BP2

I don’t doubt anything at this point.


39 posted on 09/20/2009 2:10:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: BP2

I want Fife to take a lie detector test.


40 posted on 09/20/2009 2:12:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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