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Since 1962 - Itís Been Exponential!
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 9/29/09 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 09/29/2009 1:56:13 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

Many Americans today look out the windows of their self-centered, narcissistic lives and say, “How did we get to this point in our country?” To ask the question is to answer it. Because of our day’s stormy and dreary moral and social climate, people begin to look for scapegoats for all their ills. They rarely start by looking in the mirror.

Americans today - more so than at any other time - are mostly oblivious and ignorant of history and the changing philosophies of what brought us to this point. They are stuck in the mire of today’s social climate and cannot see past it. It is difficult to see when immersed in a rapidly decaying cultural environment.

Many events have set the stage for the decadent social conditions that now confront us. A step backward is needed to “put all the pieces” on the table for objectively analyzing and observing such trends and influences on American culture and society.

When America began to abandon its Judean-Christian values by forsaking Holy Scripture truth and the Person of Almighty God, our nation’s foundation began to fracture while the poisonous waters of godless influences subtly leaked into and permeated our culture. This slow and steady tide began to turn into a steady intensifying river, which opened wide the doors to the secular liberal and progressive ideologies and trends of the 1870’s, the promotion of Darwin’s Theory of Evolution, Marxist Ideals, the “Roaring 20’s”, Eugenics, Freudian psychology, The Scopes trials, Secular Rationalism, etc.

The new technologies of those days - radio, picture shows/ movies, television, press publications, etc. - were used to promote secular ideologies as never before possible.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: 1962

1 posted on 09/29/2009 1:56:13 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

read later


2 posted on 09/29/2009 1:58:31 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I disagree. It is always easy to look out the window and say “We live in the best of times, and the worst of times.” But saying that people today are ignoring history both ignores history, and ignores how ignorant people used to be of history.

In the 1940s, America was socially stagnant, even after the economic contortions of the New Deal. Most towns were segregated, and dominated by cliques who used the dominant religion to assert secular power over others. But that social structure was crumbling, as the public began to reject its rottenness.

In the “Nineteen Teens”, America was in a terrible state. The federal government decided to steal the power of the States, with the 17th Amendment, and a minority of people forced through alcohol prohibition, the federal government deciding it could oppress the people directly, as well, with the 16th Amendment, the Income Tax. Protestants attacked Catholics.

While today, Obama *wants* socialism, he is pretty ineffectual in getting what he wants. “Ol’ Frank” Roosevelt had the power to force through his bad ideas. So is today worse than then?


3 posted on 09/29/2009 2:20:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Your point is well taken, however I believe that by and large society did impose a certain morality that is lacking in many of today’s households.

In the past, many sins that go unjudged by our peers today would have invited scandal and ostracism. While I agree with your suggested that ignorance has been a constant in our history, I think as we’ve shed our morality, our faith, and our honor that there is little enforce certain standards of civil behavior.

Do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t harm the environment or a minority. No matter how low you go, there’s always a safety net.


4 posted on 09/29/2009 2:33:14 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

1962 Christianity must have been mighty flimsy to be undone by the stopping of “school prayer”.


5 posted on 09/29/2009 3:26:17 PM PDT by AceMineral (Offically unapproved of since 1973)
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“1962 Christianity must have been mighty flimsy to be undone by the stopping of “school prayer”.”

Not at all, but it then became obvious to me, even as a child, that the government was against Christianity. I still regard that era as a turning point in our country’s downward spiral. A democracy cannot be governed by a morally-blind people.


6 posted on 09/29/2009 3:39:58 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Obama = Jim Jones coercing us into suicide on a national scale)
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To: AceMineral

Actually, the left made a series of attacks on Christianity from the power they gained with young people over the Viet Nam war. They blamed Christianity for slavery and segregation. They introduced abortion making children disposable. They attacked men, family and marriage. Finally, they attacked the very right to express your faith and Christian cultural and moral commonality with other
Christians in public. They isolated Christians from one another in the larger community and culture as they used the power of the judges to end their first amendment rights of free speech and free association as if they were dangerous and ugly people oppressing women and minorities. It was pretty nasty and youthful boomers loved the rebellion against their parents (”the greatest generation’) and took it to the darkside in every way possible. It is the boomers’ fault that things have gotten this bad.


7 posted on 09/29/2009 3:48:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Heavyrunner

“Your point is well taken, however I believe that by and large society did impose a certain morality that is lacking in many of today’s households.”

The proper term for this is “the social sanction”, which is the unwritten law, but nearly universal, and often brutally enforced by the public. It has always existed in human history, sometimes fairly and sometimes not, and politicians and leaders of all kinds want to “take charge” of it as it changes.

In the US right now, for example, were some man to put on a t-shirt that said “I molest young children”, he would likely not pass down a busy sidewalk without being confronted, and possibly attacked. This is not the written law, but the real law.

But back in the 1950s and 1960s, though children were trained to avoid “stranger danger”, such things were not for discussion. The police would be notified, and just left to them to “take care of the problem”. This resulted in *less* punishment than would be given today. A child molester might only get five years in prison, which today they would only get from a liberal judge in New England. In Texas, highly unlikely.

Often, the morality imposed by society back years ago was not truly moral, but had other purposes. For example, a rural preacher might strongly condemn cigarettes and “sipping whiskey”, used by the city folks, calling it “immoral”, but would be indifferent to the chewing tobacco and “white lightening” preferred by rural people.

The end result was a wise, if unspoken choice made by the public: to separate the ideas of “morality” from “ethics”. Though almost synonyms in the dictionary, the public was tired of the misuse of *sectarian* morality, which was almost whimsical, based on whoever was currently defining what was moral and what was not.

So instead, they vied for “ethical” behavior. That is, public behavior is determined by the written law of man on Earth, not in heaven. Morality can add to that law, but that is a personal choice, and should not be enforced in the law.

Today, this is seen at election time, with a distrust of politicians who proclaim themselves “moral”. Whose morality? Obama’s morality, taught by the odious Reverend Jeremiah Wright? Or Sarah Palin’s morality, at the Wasilla Bible Church, so hated by the left that it was burned down by an arsonist?

Too many alternative moralities. But ethics are the written laws. A politician either obeys the law or violates it. Very clear.

Much of the vice and immorality of the “good old days” is obscured solely because they did not publicly revel in it. Those who practiced it didn’t brag, and nobody would publish or broadcast it. But this didn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Medical students made fortunes giving illegal abortions. Country lanes were often strewed with condoms and single socks. Child pornography was less because there was no great effort by advertisers and the media to sexualize children. Ordinary child abuse was pretty common, and many was the time that a parent would beat their child to death and it would be met with a shrug.
Homosexual acts, though often illegal, were likewise pretty well ignored.

Better or worse than today? Hard to say.


8 posted on 09/29/2009 4:39:27 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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