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Posted on 10/02/2009 8:36:33 PM PDT by TLittlefella
42% of voters agree that people randomly selected from a phone book would do a better job in Congress than the current Congress.
It is time to flush the corruption out of Congress. It’s time to vote out the career politicians who are destroying America.
It is time to run non political candidates for Congress.
Should we take our country back by replacing career politicians in Congress with common citizens? Cast your vote:
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It's time for real change!
To get a constitutional amendment you need three quarters of the states.
While I don't generally agree with term limits, for various reasons, there is a point to made in their favor. That being said, this silly notion of 'picking people out of a phone book' is just that --- a silly notion.
Representative government of the people, by the people, and for the people certainly needs some sort of reform and overhaul, but I'm not sold on either term limits or this 'picking people out of the phone-book' thing
I am reading The Politically Incorrect Guide to The Founding Fathers. I think this book needs to be put in the hands of every citizen so that they see how far we've strayed.
What’s wrong with the other 58%?
Oh and by the way, welcome to FR?
It’s basically how we choose juries, isn’t it? They can hold your life in their hands. I think we should pick representatives the same way we pick jurors.
About the same number of people would agree that a person randomly selected from a phone book would do a better job as president than the incumbent.
Nobody is advocating that...people think those picked out of the phone book would do as good as what we've elected.
Well, it would leave out the cell-phone generation.
Time to always use the term: Current DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED Congress - or some such description to drive home the truth that the Ds are running this fiasco.
And how exactly would this be administered? A bunch of ppl picked out of a phone book who really don't want to 'serve' or have anything to do with the 'political process', and then filter them all down to the ones who really do .. or who have some sort of ego thing going on where they say "OK, I'm IN"!
Sorry Huck, this just doesn't sell
Yes they are .. this poll, and others like it, are advocating just that. It's a silly notion, and one which should get nipped in the bud early, like right now, before it catches on with the uninformed sheeple
Nope, too many lawyers involved (peremptory challenges, challenges for cause, and all that). I'd prefer a way of picking representatives that has no lawyers involved: come the revolution, we go back to the original Constitution and Bill of Rights (yup, not only no income tax, but indirect election of senators, and the Presidential runner-up gets to be VP. I might grudgingly allow the 13th and 14th Amendments to stay, too), and add a clause forbidding anyone who has practiced law within the past 10 years from running for the House or Senate, and forbidding anyone who has served in Congress from practicing law for 10 years after leaving.
No they aren't! It would have a snowball's chance in Hell!
But it would probably work as well!!!!
Hahahahahaa ... OK, whatever :)
Maybe we could pick the ‘Twitters’ also .... /laughs
No thanks. I'd rather see the more glaring errors fixed. Strike "provide for the general welfare" from the preamble. Strike "regulate interstate commerce." Strike "all laws necessary and proper". Provide a Constitutional means for secession. Just for starters.
And as for the Bill of Rights, rewrite the first amendment. Get rid of "establishment of religion". Obviously too vague. Second amendment, strike the introductory clause. Obviously it leads to misconstruction, when in reality it is superfluous justification. 4th amendment--get rid of "unreasonable". Way too vague. Empowers judges to make their own laws.
I could go on. The Constitution is riddled with errors that we, The People, with the benefit of 200 plus years of experiment, ought to fix. Get rid of the 14th amendment altogether. Add term limits for congress. Etc etc etc.
Flush the toilet. The 2010 Battle Cry!!!!
Effing Aye!
Don’t forget the Lobbyist, forbid any lobbyist from ever making contact with anyone in Congress.
Thanks for your comment – no changes to the constitution would be required.
CongressionalLotteryPool.com explains how it could be done via a voter lottery.
I’ll second that idea Starboard, but first lets clean up Congress.
Thanks for your response.
Hey my small voice,
I like your idea - Flush the toilet. The 2010 Battle cry!!!!
Now if we could just get the Tea Parties to adopt that battle cry we would have some traction.
Thanks for the welcome skinkinthegrass.
There is no doubt in my mind the first order of business from a clear thinking non career political Congress would be to relegate all Lobbyist to the state level and the second order of business would be no more pork barrel legislation.
That along with the lobbyist and Lawyers have and will bring this country to her knees. They are disgusting. Greed.
Now I am not against Greed, as that is what drives most people to invest, but what the lobbyist and lawyers are doing is nothing more than STEALING legally.
I have always said: The old time outlaws put up their guns away and studied LAW, (John Wesley Hardin), they understood they could steal more by becoming an attorney or politician, and do it with a PEN rather than a gun. They knew how to create the laws that only they could understand and protect us from. GREED. i.e.(John Edwards)
Now those same people do not even want to read the bills they pass???? Try that in a court of law, ignorance is never an excuse. LAWYERS be damned.
Well, that rules any taxpayer associations/pro Constitution advocates out. (you)
How about:
Forbid any non-profit, government agency, or grant seeking lobbyists or foreign agents from ever making contact with anyone in Congress.
you made it better, thanks.
But on the other hand, there should be no corporate welfare (subsidies) either.
it is a real mess for sure.
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