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NY Democrat Faces Raucous Town Hall as He Tries to Make Case Against "Tort Reform" - Video 10/6/09
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | October 7, 2009 | BrianinMO

Posted on 10/07/2009 6:24:12 AM PDT by Federalist Patriot

Here is video of a raucous Town Hall Meeting at Suffolk County Community College in Brentwood, New York, where Democrat Congressman Steve Israel faced a skeptical crowd as he tried to make the case for the Democrats' Health Care Plan.

Israel was asked a simple question: "Why can't we just fix the part of health care that is broken, when what is needed is tort reform?"

The crowd went wild at the question! Rep. Israel then condescendingly tried to lecture the crowd about why tort reform is not a good thing! The crowd remained raucous throughout his attempted answer. . . . (VIDEO)

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomslighthouse.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: steveisrael; townhall

1 posted on 10/07/2009 6:24:13 AM PDT by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

“condescension”- perfect description


2 posted on 10/07/2009 6:26:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (impecahment of rlying to the Americna public.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Did he explain to the crowd how much money trial lawyers donate to Dem re-election coffers?


3 posted on 10/07/2009 6:30:13 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Federalist Patriot

Peferct example of someone who needs to go away. Smarmy boy!


4 posted on 10/07/2009 6:30:50 AM PDT by King Hawk
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To: Federalist Patriot

The Dems are using McAllen, Texas as an example of out of control medical costs. And this idiot, Israel, blames the tough tort reform in Texas. The real reason for these high costs is illegal immigration that plagues these hospitals in Texas.


5 posted on 10/07/2009 6:41:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Federalist Patriot

I guaran-damn-tee you that if this thing gets passed, tort reform will come after the fact. The federal government always protects itself from legal liability. But for now, they need the trial lawyers on board.


6 posted on 10/07/2009 6:42:19 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (The Top 10 Most Murderous Cities in the US (per capita) Are All Run By Dem Mayors - 2005 Report)
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To: Federalist Patriot

What he doesn’t tell you is that McAllen, TX is in the Rio Grande valley, right on the US/Mexico border, and that it’s full of foreign nationals taking advantage of our generous system.

How do you know a liberal is lying?

His lips are moving.


7 posted on 10/07/2009 6:44:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Isreal closed with saying "I'm willing to vote for Tort Refrom in the context of the bill"..

Sure he will...because it's NOT in there!

"You're saying tort reform now, but if something happens to you, you'll be the first one to want to take the case to a judge and jury," Israel said. "I don't believe a member of the United States Congress should decide when you can go to court."

But Members of Congress can decide to 'ration' my medical care? So can I sue the Gov't if "something happens" to me because it took 6 months to get an appt?

sw

8 posted on 10/07/2009 7:01:31 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Federalist Patriot

“Stop calling me a liar and let me finish!”


9 posted on 10/07/2009 7:02:04 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama, when you lie, we're going to call you out)
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To: Federalist Patriot

good to see that the large majority of comments on that site, are anti-lib. the few that are pro , claim that protestors are paid off dupes of insurance companies, or the GOP. strange that libs cant undestand someone acting on their own. apparently its beyond their comprehension.


10 posted on 10/07/2009 7:35:26 AM PDT by tm61 (somewhere in chicago, a ward is missing it's crook)
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To: King Hawk
Voting Steve Israel out in 2010 = a good start. Do the voters in Suffolk County have the cojones to vote someone new in?
11 posted on 10/07/2009 7:43:53 AM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: Walrus

We are waiting for a candidate to announce in the NY - 2nd. A Republican candidate already announced in NY-1.
The 2nd district was formally Republican before Israel and we outnumber Democrats in registration. The only reason Israel won originally was because there were 2 different Conservative and Republican candidates back in 2000.
Frank Stalzer didn’t even try in 2008. There is no reason why we can’t beat Israel next year.


12 posted on 10/07/2009 8:00:37 AM PDT by LongIslandConservative
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To: Federalist Patriot

This is the sickening side of democracy. A roomful of stupid savages whooping it up for something they don’t understand. Yeah, you’re gonna fix healthcare by reducing what is less than 1/2 of 1% of total costs. We spend about 8 times more on bank overdraft fees then we do tort payouts.

parsy, who starts his day disgusted


13 posted on 10/07/2009 8:03:50 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, thats not it. Dr. Gawande went there and wrote an article about the high costs. Most of it is doctor greed by ordering unnecessary costs to pad their pockets.

parsy, who will send you a link


14 posted on 10/07/2009 8:06:00 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Apparently, the people want to rein in the ambulance-chasing scumbag lawyers and their “jackpot justice”. Sometimes gifts present themselves on golden platters to Republicans. Let’s see if, yet again, the Republicans turn up their noses and say, “No, thank you.”


15 posted on 10/07/2009 8:11:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: EternalVigilance

Here’s the link. On page three of this article is a link to the “gawande” article. He went to McAllen and talked to the doctors himself. On page 29 is an exhibit which shows the medmal insurance premiums paid by year since 1975 and the related payouts. These numbers are from the insurance companies themselves.

http://www.insurance-reform.org/TrueRiskF.pdf

This is probably the first time anyone has ever provided you with the actual numbers, so my question is, why haven’t any of the supporters of tort reform ever bothered to give people the actual dollar amount of this horrible scourge?

parsy, who says you have been played


16 posted on 10/07/2009 8:13:53 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
Most of it is doctor greed by ordering unnecessary costs to pad their pockets.

lol
No, they're not practicing defensive medicine to protect themselves from the greedy "jackpot justice" lawyers or anything....

17 posted on 10/07/2009 8:23:12 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: parsifal

I seriously doubt that medical malpractice insurance costs a Doctor only 1/2 or 1% of a Doctor’s gross annual income, in fact I would bet on average, the monthly cost exceeds rent. Doctors order a lot of CYA tests to cover themselves against lawsuits.


18 posted on 10/07/2009 8:24:12 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Lancey Howard

Read the article. There is a difference between “defensive medicine” and tort reform. No one has good idea of how much defensive medicine costs because it is difficult to distinguish between panicky doctors and greedy doctors. For example, supposedly c-sections are being done because of a John Edwards law suit, but c-sections pay in excess of $5,000 more, not counting post op follow-up. So are some doctors doing a lot of them because they scairt, or because they get to make a bundle.

parsy, who says that is the question


19 posted on 10/07/2009 8:33:40 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Tort reform does sometimes save doctors on medmal insurance, but not always. The article explains why. Some defensive medicine is certainly out of fear, but most IMHO, is for extra money. Look at the small amount of payouts on the chart. Is it likely that a few billion in payouts is driving maybe $200 in extra costs?

parsy, who says not likely


20 posted on 10/07/2009 8:35:56 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Federalist Patriot

That Congresscritter is SOOOOOOOOO full of BS:

http://tlrfoundation.com/beta/files/Texas_Tort_Reform_Report_2008.pdf


21 posted on 10/07/2009 8:52:17 AM PDT by radioone (Alinskys rules for radicals: Ridicule is a better tactic than argument.)
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To: parsifal

I haven’t “been played.” I’ve been to McAllen, and know the score. The numbers of illegal foreign nationals living in that community and feeding from the public trough massively skew any possible numbers you could have.

But, to whatever extent the numbers you cite are correct, you’ve made the main point quite clearly anyway that McAllen is not a normal case. Which means, of course, that the leftwing Democrat in question is using an extreme case to try and impose his socialist views and policies on the rest of the country.

Extreme examples make for very bad public policy, no matter how you slice it.


22 posted on 10/07/2009 8:56:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Have you read the article?

parsy, who is curious


23 posted on 10/07/2009 10:42:40 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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