Posted on 10/07/2009 9:22:55 AM PDT by Starman417
"The Department has an Urgent Operational Need (UON) for the capability to strike hard and deeply buried targets in high threat environments. The MOP is the weapon of choice to meet the requirements of the UON." It further states that the request is endorsed by Pacific Command (which has responsibility over North Korea) and Central Command (which has responsibility over Iran).
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net
doubt it. more like the administration using the media to bluff.
Loose lips sink ships. Thanks alot DOD leaker and of course ABC. If it is repelled badly it will become Obama’s version of the Iran Rescue Mission.
The Iranian nuke sites are spread over 20 different locations and a mere bombing will not solve the problem. You need boots on the ground. But, of course, Bush knew that and laid the groundwork by surrounding Iran on two sides with American bases. Does anyone really think Obama would ever invade?
I would be shocked if we did. This president doesn’t have the you-know-what’s to go out on a limb like that. The left would eat him alive.
TOTAL B.S...! Obama do this? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS...!
The only people who believe he’d do this would be idiots.
This is like Bubba sending Apache’s to Kosovo —ALL FOR THE CAMERAS...!
Nevermind. While I am sure taking out Iran nuke sites is on their mind this in no way really indicates that. Afghanistan also needs more advanced bunker busters as well.
I doubt it to. Heck he can’t make a decision on sending troops to Afghanistan let alone bombing Iran. Heck he would have to get by Brzeninski shooting down our airplanes.
To steal our earnings with Obamacare and Cap/Trade...Hussein would do anything.
Does he think these bills will pass if he bombs Iran?
Yea...right!!!
The chances that 0bama's boys will ever order this sort of strike are microscopic. They'd be shooting oil prices sky-high if they tried it in Iran (and the Russians and Huey Chavez would be dancing in the street) and they'd be handing the South Koreans a war if they tried it in North Korea. The latter is more likely but neither one is in the least likely at all.
For folks who pay attention to the news, this is NOT a recent action. While the most recent UON was indeed issued in early JULY of this year (meaning it was likely drafted early in the first quarter of ‘09) this MOP has been chasing funding for quite a while.
Obama, and his in-house news arm ABCNEWS must have a reason to speak about it now.
Read the following excerpt from globalsecurity.org regarding an UON dating back to October 2007:
“On 31 March 2006 Dr. James A. Tegnelia, the director of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency told American Forces Press Service [AFPS] that the MOP is a test article meant to understand the design principles on which a country might build a weapon to counter hard targets. “We are not in the process to convince anybody to field a large earth penetrator,” he said. But the FY 2008 Global War on Terror Amendment of October 2007 stated [page 44-45] that “The Department requests $5.3 billion to procure equipment to replenish that consumed during combat and support operations in the theater. ... The Replenishment category also includes $0.3 billion for the development of specific technologies to improve the survivability of U.S. personnel and equipment. This includes funding for the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) for use on the B-2 bomber... “ On 23 October 2007, John M. Donnelly reported in Congressional Quarterly that the request includes “$88 million to modify B-2 bombers so they can drop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator” and that White House stated the request for money to modify bombers was in response to “an urgent operational need from theater commanders.”
Thats a shiny lie!
Wishful thinking.
Obama, by himself, would never bomb his brothers unless he was getting a bigger deal elsewhere.
bttt
I don’t doubt that the DOD has plans to bomb Iran, but the coke heads in the White House aren’t interested.
With what? We're having enough problems finding enough troops to keep your two base countries from blowing up. What's left to invade Iran?
Kind of makes my point. Regardless, that’s what it will take short of an internal revolution.
President small balls would never in a million years bomb Iran..
Jaeger Bombs, maybe.
Leaflet bombs expressing support more likely.
Is there a date or time stamp on this UON? If not I’d guess it’s a not time sensitve request for the weaponry needed to accomplish s task of destroying deeply protected targets. Those targets could be Iran, sections of the NW frontier in Pakistan, caves in Afghanistan, or sites in N Korea. This could just as easily be identified as a need to deploy a weapon to kill bin Laden as attack Iran.
See my post #13. First public UON was back in October 2007.
source: globalsecurity.org
With dollar bills?
If true the people who revealed rthis info are classic trasitors... including the personnel at ABC. All should be executed.
I don’t believe the U.S. is.
This is really going to stink if I have to actually APPROVE of something this idiot does......
Horse Hockey!.......Road Apples!......Bull pie!.........!
They mean attack Israel..
Would anyone be surprised to see the Obamas deposed in a military coup shortly before a massive strike against a nuclear prepared Iran?
With Obama in the White House,I doubt it.The Iranian’s already have Obies number and their not worried.
It left a hole but it’s going to have to penatrate much deeper before it detonates.
A chewy order in and of itself.
Why would we bomb our dear friend and ally?
Will add 10 points to Obama’s approval rating, overnight.
Iran has enough fissile material at this point to cause serious problems. Doesn’t matter if they can make a warhead or not. Unless we can guarantee that we know where 100% of it is, and could contain it to the attack site, we will not be conducting any bombing runs.
The time for action was 2-3 years ago.
the link to ABC itself has as headline:
Is the U.S. Preparing to Bomb Iran?
Is the U.S. Stepping Up Preparations for a Possible Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facilities?
An important difference. IOW, media speculation.
I’ve been in on simulation-backed wargaming of an invasion in Iran over the years. I assure you that Iran is much too large to invade, esp. under our current force structure and deployments.
However, we do still have the airpower and seapower to close or destroy all Iranian air- , sea- , and army-bases within about a 3-day air campaign, with minimum losses....
You would know better than I about an invasion, but history tells us you absolutely have to have boots on the ground with this many locations.
His willing accomplices in the media will take the hit (we could only hope), if a defiant Iran is NOT bombed.
"US and Allies have urgent need for landing ships capable of a 25 mile crossing in rough water and landing on stony beaches.
I agree with you on the subject of airpower taking out all possible nuclear locations. I suggest to you, though, that the actual number of locations with facilities capable of enriched uranium molding (or plutonium)and weaponization is small, perhaps 2 locations. Are they deep underground? Of course. Do we have the weapons to penetrate these and the skill to deliver them exactly? Of course. It is also hard to retaliate against anyone when your air force and navy have been decimated.
I'm less concerned about retaliation against the U.S. (even against our forces in the region) than I am that if we use air strikes, and come up short, a) they will be greatly emboldened and the regime supported; b) they will even more energetically spread their facilities out and harden them further, and c) probably have some indication who our intel sources on the ground are.
I also believe that there are over 20 different locations having to do with nuclear power and nuclear materials production. I don’t believe, and this is because of the speciality of weaponizing uranium and plutonium, that there would be more than about 2 such sites, maximum. You could move Saddam and his sons around, and the intelligence on the locations could be fleeting, but you can’t move these special facilities around. We know where they are and we know how penetrate them with weapons, exactly.
This is not to say that I am not an advocate of using ground (special) forces to seal the deal.
Holy SH*T!
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