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I Bought Myself a Hi-Point 9mm Handgun
NotoriouslyConservative.com ^ | 10 08 09 | Notoriously Conservative

Posted on 10/08/2009 12:44:17 PM PDT by Notoriously Conservative

I decided a wanted a new gun, but I didn't have much money to spend. I did a little research, and came across the Hi-Point 9mm. I came across some mixed reviews. There were those that said it jammed, was super ugly, and way too heavy. But, then there were those that said it was more accurate than most of the guns they owned, couldn't be easier to clean and maintain, and best of all, it came with a lifetime warranty, not questions asked, and it's made in the good old USA. Wait, I lied, the best part is the price, $149.

So, I went out and got me one, it even came with a free box of bullets. I haven't fired it yet, but plan on it this weekend, so I'll let you know how it performs. Until then, I found this honest review at Bullshido.net:

ACTION TYPE: Blowback Semiauto CALIBER: 9mm CAPACITY: 8+1 BARREL LENGTH: 3.5" OVERALL LENGTH: 6.75" WEIGHT: 30 ounces FINISH: Matte Black SIGHTS: Adjustable, 3-Dot GRIPS: Black Plastic PRICE: $168

THE GOOD-

Price-This gun is uber-inexpensive. For the price of 4 boxes of .357, you can have this weapon. It also shoots cheap, readily available 9mm luger. Consistency- Once you dial the adjustable sights in, this weapon will put a bullet in the same spot over and over again. I freely admit I never expected that from this piece. Even after several hundred rounds, this thing will shoot point of aim dead on at any distance. It has been such a treat to see a low-cost product perform this well.

Simplicity- This is a single-action-only, straight-blowback, striker-fired handgun. There are no complex mechanisms at all. It has about 8 moving parts and that’s it. Cleaning can be done without stripping; as a matter of fact, hi-point recommends you do NOT disassemble this weapon. Spray it out with cleaner, run a brush through the bore, and wipe down the feed ramp and you’re done. Seriously; it’s like having an automatic revolver.

No Worries- Warrantee is 100% no-questions-asked, fully transferable, and legendarily fast. If the weapon fails for any reason, send it back. They will fix it or give you a new one. According to anecdotes, they don’t even care how it broke. I have spoken with several owners of these, and turnaround time seems to be about 2 weeks.

THE BAD-

Picky Eater- Since the action is straight blowback, the breach does not tip back to align with the feed ramp, and the feed ramp suffers from poor polishing. The result is a weapon that will not feed non-jacketed ammo. So those super-cheap reloads that you got for $.03 a round? Don’t even try. It’s embarrassing. Even low-power jacketed ammo can be problematic. While straight-blowback is inherently simple, it necessitates a heavy slide and recoil spring, and if you have an anemic round, it may fail to throw the slide all the way back, and cause the weapon to feed the next round improperly. Half an hour with a Dremel tool will polish the feed ramp to the point that many of the feeding problems will disappear, and is not the sort of thing that requires a skilled gunsmith. That being said, both Federal and Remington 9mm Luger FMJ feed reliably and consistently right out of the box.

So shoot decent ammo! The weapon is +p rated, and using jacketed +p ammo completely eliminates this issue.

Weight- 9mm handguns should be thin and light. This one is not. Fully loaded, this beast weighs almost as much as my .357. It boasts unloaded weights of 30 oz., while competitors are fully 1/3 lighter with better ammo capacity. It has a polymer frame, but its design necessitates a big, heavy slide to operate reliably. You definitely have a BIG, HEAVY slide to deal with. The only plus to this is that with 9mm, the weight makes recoil non-existent, even with the hottest loads around.

No Staying Power- Stock single-stack magazines hold 8 rounds, and the big one holds 10. Springfield XD-9 has a 20-round stick and is lighter. Enough said.

THE UGLY-

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Not even professional photography can make this thing look cool.

This Gun!- This is the second-ugliest handgun ever produced (Glock wins the prize for me. Hideous weapons!). The giant slide is milled from a single chunk of metal, has the graceful curves and angles of a Ford Edsel, and the aesthetic appeal of grandma’s meatloaf after her second bottle of tawny port. Absolutely NO consideration went into this weapon’s appearance. Well…I ain’t exactly pretty myself, so I don’t give it too much consideration.

One look!?!? ONE LOOK!?!?!- (Zoolander reference, people!) There are no accessories out there for this gun. Don’t like the polymer grips? Tough. Want to get a different recoil spring? Too bad. Conversion kits? You must be joking.

You buy this gun, you get this gun. This is not a weapon for personal expression or match-modding. It just isn’t going to happen. A Hogue hand-all rubber slide on grip sized for Glocks will go a long way toward keeping this thing in your hands after things get sweaty. As a ten dollar investment, I highly recommend it.

Snobbery- People will give you a hard time for having this gun. They will cite feeding problems and tell (anecdotal) horror stories of catastrophic failures at critical moments. If this weapon jams or fails, the problem is almost ALWAYS cheap ammo or an old magazine. Unless they can prove that this weapon is more prone to failure under normal conditions than any other, tell them to shut up. At my last trip to the range I was perfectly happy to out shoot my antagonist and his custom 1911 with this little monster.

THE REALITY-

This gun will do the job. There are many advantages to a higher-priced weapon, but there is no over-arching reason to overlook this piece if you do not have a lot to spend. Simplicity, affordability, and customer service are the strengths of this particular weapon, and as such should be considered when looking at higher-priced models. With a little patience and some common sense, this is a reliable, accurate, and well-made weapon. I have carried it cocked and locked for self-defense, and have never worried about it. If you have a little money, a little common sense, and some patience, this weapon will give you many years of excellent service at the range or for self-protection.

Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

My opinion? Glad you asked. I say, if you have been itching to get a gun, before all guns are banned, etc., and you don't have a lot of pocket change, you can't go wrong. This gun is super reliable, comes with a lifetime warranty, and is super cheap.

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TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: 9mm; gun; hipoint
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1 posted on 10/08/2009 12:44:18 PM PDT by Notoriously Conservative
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I have a 9mm Glock and a 45 Sig. They both are dead on nuts when I fire them.


2 posted on 10/08/2009 12:47:34 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

mini-nines are good for pocket duty ... I have one, easy to drop in your jeans pocket to go see what is going on.


3 posted on 10/08/2009 12:48:10 PM PDT by Tarpon (Oba-Mao is a reader, not a leader ...)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Get ready to get flamed by the gun grabbing FReepers...

Yup...

Any second now...


4 posted on 10/08/2009 12:48:57 PM PDT by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

holsters are cheap too
http://www.westerntool.com/product.htm?pid=437041


5 posted on 10/08/2009 12:50:41 PM PDT by tumblindice (More Zombie threads!)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Hope it works for you. They seem to be hit and miss (mostly miss) from what I’ve heard (no personal experience). Those with good ones got a bargain.


6 posted on 10/08/2009 12:50:47 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I didn’t even know they existed!!


7 posted on 10/08/2009 12:52:03 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: Notoriously Conservative
Wow, that is ugly. But then, self-defense shouldn't have to be a fashion show.

I love my Beretta 92fs. Accurate, reliable, feeds anything, and IMO the sexiest 9mm ever made.


8 posted on 10/08/2009 12:53:49 PM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Notoriously Conservative

That gun is such a cheap model, you should only use it for self-defensive emergency events. Do not target practice with it. It’s a cheap gun and will soon malfunction.


9 posted on 10/08/2009 12:53:59 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Good luck with that.

My only suggestion is to try out different ammo until you can shoot 100 rounds without any failures. Until then don’t use the gun as if your life depends on it.

I’ve seen guys with those at the range cursing alot. They do work for the most part but I’ll stick to my H&Ks.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 12:54:47 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Have a good friend that is a CCW trainer and he said don’t buy one. He is a bit of a gun snob and can afford high priced weapons. If testing says it is reliable, who cares what it looks like if you can secure a target and put it on the ground. My wife has a Kimber .45 and a 92F 9 mm Beretta—much more expensive and she had to return the Kimber because of occasional jamming.


11 posted on 10/08/2009 12:55:16 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Notoriously Conservative

My normal is a Para-Ordanance P12.......

Yet recently I purchsed a brand new stainless steel Charter Arms .44 special Bulldog.....

I love this gun and with jacketed hollowpoints, is a defininite manstopper......

Made in the USA and has a lifetime warranty as well.....

Very light, easily concealable and stainless so when up against the body for long periods when concealed it doesn’t rust..... It sells for about $350.....

Word of caution, buy only the new version currently produced, some of the older ones when the factory was operated by a different management team had quality issues. The new ones have several improvements and appear to be high qualilty in their manufacture.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 12:55:37 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Notoriously Conservative

13 posted on 10/08/2009 12:56:13 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Malsua
My Glock is beautiful.
14 posted on 10/08/2009 12:56:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Notoriously Conservative

No way I would EVER buy a Hi-Point. If necessary, I would work two jobs until I saved the money to get a real gun. Self defence is like interviewing for a job.....”you only have one chance to make a first impression” :]


15 posted on 10/08/2009 12:58:43 PM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: Notoriously Conservative
Yeah, some just don't like hollow points. Which if you're fine with that is no problem!

Here is another I picked up for a couple hundred new. Not sure what they go for now.

S&W Sigma 9ve. Accurate as hell. And will give you bulging muscles in your trigger finger ;-)


16 posted on 10/08/2009 1:00:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Hey Obama. Where is Osama Bin Laden?)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Are there gun-grabbing Freepers. I mean othar than like myself who wants to grab every fine firearm he sees.


17 posted on 10/08/2009 1:00:33 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Whatever firearm you have, get to know it better than you know yourself. Clearing jams and other unexpected events need to be second nature.


18 posted on 10/08/2009 1:02:00 PM PDT by Texas resident ( It's us against them. And we're on our own.)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I have a Glock 19 and 23. Paid under $500 for each. Speer 124 grain +P 9mm ammo is a pretty good round for the 19, which has a 15 round magazine. All together, the loaded 9mm is around $510 or so. I figure my life is worth AT LEAST that.


19 posted on 10/08/2009 1:05:05 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

You lost me when you said Glocks are the ugliest.


20 posted on 10/08/2009 1:07:41 PM PDT by skyman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

So are mine and I use them without concern for rust or bluing wear and they are as reliable as a hammer. My other ones just set in the safe.


21 posted on 10/08/2009 1:08:04 PM PDT by mcshot (Hyphenated Americans need to assimilate or return to their ancestral home.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

VVV, I got that Sigma in .40 first of the year and paid about $300 new. And you’re right: if you can squeeze a Smegma trigger, you can pump gas using only Mr. Thumbkin and Mr. Pointer!
Looked at this as well: http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_handguns/cobrapatriot_062207/
I’ve heard good things about the Hi-Point, but the .45 looks too much like my Ryobi drill.


22 posted on 10/08/2009 1:08:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (More Zombie threads!)
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To: b4its2late

A Golck mod 20 (10mm) and a SIG 229 in .40 does it for me.

The SIG’s an easy concealed carry and when there’s trouble brewing in River City, I like having 15+1 rounds of .41 mag-like persuasion on tap with the Glock.

Both shoot better than I can aim them. And I can aim ‘em pretty darn good.


23 posted on 10/08/2009 1:09:46 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

You lost me when you said Glocks are the ugliest.

Glocks are beautiful unless you are a gun snob.

The HiPoint is one ugly gun!


24 posted on 10/08/2009 1:09:49 PM PDT by skyman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My Glock is beautiful.

Reliable, functional and did I say utterly reliable? I'm just not a fan. I don't care for the grip and that you have to pull the trigger to disassemble. This is not to disparage anyone that owns one. They are great guns, just not for me.

25 posted on 10/08/2009 1:09:49 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua
I own a Python and several very nice Smiths. but that's the problem. These nice blued pieces are too nice to take outside. Like my Belgian Brownings.
26 posted on 10/08/2009 1:11:49 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don’t own any that are too nice to take out and shoot. And I own some very nice one’s indeed.


27 posted on 10/08/2009 1:12:56 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Notoriously Conservative
They are pretty ugly, and they are fairly inexpensive, but for the price, and the capability, the Hi-Point is one of the biggest sellers in the shop.

I've shot all but the 40, and have been impressed with the reliability and the fairly good accuracy. They are heavy, but that helps a lot. This is not a weapon I would consider for any kind of duty rig, but if you want a weapon you can store with your hunting gear and not worry about really caring for it, this is the one.

P.S. Glocks have not come up with any technological advancements in years. A number of companies are out pacing and outclassing Glock and a lot of LEO departments are moving to that newer technology.

28 posted on 10/08/2009 1:14:52 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Fred911
No way I would EVER buy a Hi-Point. If necessary, I would work two jobs until I saved the money to get a real gun. Self defence is like interviewing for a job.....”you only have one chance to make a first impression” :]

I bought one out of sheer curiosity after seeing all of the Hi-Point arguments on gun forums.

I don't carry it, but it has never jammed and is dead-on accurate.

My "go-to" handguns are my S&W 642, Ruger GP100, Springfield XD45 compact, Glock 21, and Beretta 92FS.

(Okay, I love guns.)

29 posted on 10/08/2009 1:15:34 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I can't bring myself to shoot the .357. It's in 95 + condition and no longer in production. I've never seen a better example except new in the box for $1800. That gun was a 4 inch model, not nearly as desirable as the 6 inch.
30 posted on 10/08/2009 1:16:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Zeddicus
"...self-defense shouldn't have to be a fashion show."

Amen!

And I will sport you a .40 sub-compact to further solidify your point!

31 posted on 10/08/2009 1:17:43 PM PDT by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Stick with good or decent ammo and clips, like you said, and you should be fine.

A used Ruger 9 mm is another option. Reliable, cheap and reliable.


32 posted on 10/08/2009 1:18:17 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: Notoriously Conservative
My late mother-in-law (a great depression child) always said that there are two things in life on which you do not scrimp; shoes and mattresses. I would have to add firearms to that short list. If you have to save awhile, do it -- do whatever you must -- the result is always worth the sacrifice and/or wait.

Having said all of that ... congrats on your new purchase. Far be it from me to criticize anyone when they are exercising their right to keep and bear arms. Have fun and be safe! (just don't make it a habit to buy the inexpensive stuff).

33 posted on 10/08/2009 1:19:59 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Southern by choice ... American by the grace of God)
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To: Notoriously Conservative
You need to have a "boating accident" where you lose all your guns.

The amount of iron at the bottom of bodies of water, is growing steadily.

34 posted on 10/08/2009 1:20:26 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Notoriously Conservative

With the newer ammo, 9mm has once again become one of my favorite SD rounds. I LOVE my 9mm CZ PO-1 and recently added a .22LR conversion kit for it....much cheaper to practice with using basically the same gun. I also have a Kel-Tek PF9 for a pocket gun loaded 7 rounds of nasty little Speer Gold Dot zappers for those moments when nothing else will do.


35 posted on 10/08/2009 1:21:11 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I carry a Beretta Tomcat in .32 using Glaser Safeties mixed with Hydra-shocks. Small, compact and deadly.


36 posted on 10/08/2009 1:22:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GI Joe Fan
That's my carry piece; the mod 22.
.40 S&W is a good round.
37 posted on 10/08/2009 1:24:03 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Notoriously Conservative

Please post your results and opinions after 1000 rounds... †


38 posted on 10/08/2009 1:25:20 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: VeniVidiVici

That Hi-Point may not be the prettiest girl at the dance,but she still might be alot of fun.

I just sent my 9mm Sigma in for a free warranty re-work of the internals. It will result in a smoother trigger pull and action.

My “dress” pieces are a Ruger LCP w/Hornady Critical Defence loads, and my beautiful, classic, S&W 39-2.


39 posted on 10/08/2009 1:31:13 PM PDT by gigster
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Hey, I have that same S&W. Laser grips and all. It's a fun little revolver, but my Ruger BlackHawk .357 sure feels sweet after firing this one for a while.
40 posted on 10/08/2009 1:33:43 PM PDT by DadOfFive (Today at the library, I noticed a book about unicorns in the non-fiction section. I knew it!)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I had a HiPoint .40 cal. pistol that is very similar to what you have. Ugly as sin, jammed constantly, but WAS actually fairly accurate. I also only spent about $140 for it. When I wanted to get rid of it, however, every local pawn shop that I went to to see if they were interested in a trade said that they weren’t interested but would give me a $25 voucher that was from the city that I could use. They said that the gun would just be destroyed. i ended up selling it in a garage sale for $100 last summer. I really was uncomfortable with the way it jammed so much and I was worried that if it did it in a panic situation that my wife wouldn’t know how to clear it. I ended up buying her a S&W .38 revolver that looks real dainty.


41 posted on 10/08/2009 1:38:15 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: gigster

Anyone know anything about the Czech CZ-82 9x18 Pistol ?????


42 posted on 10/08/2009 1:39:52 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Oldpuppymax

My new CCW:

http://forum.pafoa.org/imagehosting/598048615848c5c3f.jpg

Only $450.00 also got a nice holster, 129 grain Federal .38 Special (+P) Hydra Shok, 135 grain Speer .357 Magnum Gold Point. Springfield Armory XDm 40 S&W to come soon.


43 posted on 10/08/2009 1:39:52 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: b4its2late

44 posted on 10/08/2009 1:40:18 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Notoriously Conservative

I used to have some really nice guns... but my wife made me take them 3 miles out into Lake Michigan and throw them overboard... (sniff)


45 posted on 10/08/2009 1:41:06 PM PDT by laker_dad
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To: DadOfFive

The laser makes things a little easier...not as much ammuntion to waste in practice....


46 posted on 10/08/2009 1:42:01 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: GI Joe Fan

Love my Glock 27!


47 posted on 10/08/2009 1:43:30 PM PDT by monkeypants (It's a Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: laker_dad

my wife made me take them 3 miles out into Lake Michigan and throw them overboard... (sniff)

OUCH!


48 posted on 10/08/2009 1:43:50 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Notoriously Conservative

The gun snobs are gonna tell you that you shouldn’t have bought one. That’s their opinion. I have the Hi-Point C9, and I like it. I needed to adjust the sights, but once I did it drives nails. I did have a feed problem, it was due to a faulty mag. I sent it back and got a new one at no cost to me. I haven’t had a problem since. I do use good ammo, and have fired reloads, but non jacketed ammo fouls the feed ramp quickly. I have put over 1500 rounds through mine with no failures. The C9 is a good reliable pistol, and you can’t beat the price. I own 3 other pistols, a Kimber 1911, Baretta M-9, and a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44mag. The Hi-Point is by far the ugliest of them all, but looks ain’t everything. This pistol is a shooter!


49 posted on 10/08/2009 1:47:35 PM PDT by sean327 (All men are created equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: DadOfFive
My dad's WWll 45...(gun pictured from the internet)
50 posted on 10/08/2009 1:54:03 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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