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Khamenei Said to be in Coma
pajamasmedia.com ^ | Oct. 13, 2009 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 10/13/2009 4:57:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

This story has been floating around the net for the past day or so, but this report comes from a person who is in a position to know such things. As I know very well (having been gulled into wrongly announcing Khamenei’s death a while back), it is easy to be misled, and Khamenei has had previous medical emergencies in the past, and recovered, but the source is excellent. Nonetheless, it’s always smart to apply the Reagan Caution: Trust, but verify. I’m doing my best.

Here is what he/she says:

Yesterday afternoon at 2.15PM local time, Khamenei collapsed and was taken to his special clinic. Nobody – except his son and the doctors – has since been allowed to get near him. His official, but secret, status is: “in the hands of the gods”.

Reportedly this collapse is natural. Many would like him to move to his afterlife but reportedly the collapse was not ‘externally induced’ [no poisioning]. The few insiders who know about the collapse see this development “as a gift from the gods”.

His condition had already seriously deteriorated over the last months, aggravated by his nervous condition due to [1] his inability to solve the problems created by his manipulation of the election results and the refusal of [a large part of] the population to accept this, plus [2] his loss of religious authority by means of the repeated condemnations of events by senior clerics

Reportedly the principal aims of Khamenei of the last couple of weeks, if not months, were to ensure [1] a positive reputation as his legacy and [2] the physical survival of his family members and their wealth, reportedly now largely in Syria and in Turkey (remember the truck convoy of $8.5 billion in cash and gold that was seized by the Turks?).

Outlook is uncertain but speculation is – considering that he is in coma since more than 24 hours – that he may not come out of his coma and/or that he may die very soon.

If he dies it is expected that immediately a bloody clash will develop between the powers behind Rafsanjani, who will immediately claim temporary religious authority and overall control, and the powers behind Achmadinejad who will scramble in order to regain control and ensure their survival.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: iran; khamenei; ledeen

1 posted on 10/13/2009 4:57:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s been in a coma all his life....


2 posted on 10/13/2009 4:59:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s just a matter of time before he goes to the afterlife to spend eternity with his group of 72 virgin...wild boars.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 5:01:33 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The few insiders who know about the collapse see this development “as a gift from the gods”.

Are there any polytheists left in Iran?

4 posted on 10/13/2009 5:01:49 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mossad matzo ball.


5 posted on 10/13/2009 5:05:28 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wait until he discovers that al-Lah is not God...but Lucifer!


6 posted on 10/13/2009 5:05:39 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (DEFUND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE NOW!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good. Let’s hope he dies quick.


7 posted on 10/13/2009 5:10:49 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: FARS

FYI


8 posted on 10/13/2009 5:11:10 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks (Dollar a Day Member..............Free Republic is not Free!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

9 posted on 10/13/2009 5:14:36 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

May his body be riddled with worms real soon!


10 posted on 10/13/2009 5:17:19 PM PDT by JRochelle (GBeck 2012: "Yay, O won again! Now the people will REALLY wake up!")
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To: Sacajaweau

IT IS THE WILL OF ALLAH.


11 posted on 10/13/2009 5:21:37 PM PDT by omega4179 (pos approval rating -11)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Thanks for the heads-up

Most of us know - but it would be nice if this blog article at least mentioned up front “Iran” or “Ayatollah Khamenei” for clarity...


12 posted on 10/13/2009 5:37:31 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder if this may very well lead to the Islamist regime being crippled and then eventually destroyed. Kahemeni is a holdover from the radical beginning. Amenajad is likely to be unable to hold things together. Another fascinating political development.


13 posted on 10/13/2009 5:42:42 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Now’s your chance for redemption Obama, send in the Marines.


14 posted on 10/13/2009 5:44:39 PM PDT by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Imam in a coma, I know, I know it’s serious...


15 posted on 10/13/2009 5:45:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: RichInOC
“in the hands of the gods"

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. What happened to that ol' Allah being the only god?

16 posted on 10/13/2009 6:04:11 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Rushmore Rocks; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

I can quite probably guess who Mike Ledeen’s source is and as he says, he has fairly often posted Iran news that turned out to be baseless because his sources misled him.

As I posted the other day, quoting AntiMullah, one credible source passed on the deathbed news (not yet coma) and another very good one came back later last night saying he was pretending and was not on his death bed - yet.

That he has sequestered himself, or been sequestered with a “no visitors” ruling by his medics is not in question.

What’s very intersting is that this appears a replay of the Aytollah Rouhallah Khomeini (not Khamenei) final days, during which a forged edict (see below) brought Khamenei to power.

He and his group may be planning a similar “death bed” “appointment” of someone specific (not yet clear in my mind) though he would love to get his mid-evel cleric, middle son Mojtaba into the position by his final decree.

The main difference is that Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic regime, had almost mystical power to “order” and appoint his successor. Khamenei does not have more than 10% (ten) of that influence and would be ignored. Except if it were a payback decree naming Mesbah Yazdi, who was one of the two (minimum) who provided one of the only two legitimizing votes for Khamenei and who would have the support of the IRGC (Revolutionary Guard) via “prez” Ahmadi-Nejad

PREVIOUS POST on this for those who did not see the analysis

There are so many new players and factors coming to the fore (most were there before but mostly rather covert)that predicting, even specualting is quite hard.
General details:

1. Khamenei was never a real Grand Ayatollah and an usurper.

2. Ayat. Mesbah-Yazdi (looney 12th Imamer and Ahmadi-Nejad’s spiritual mentor) and former Justice Minister Ayat. Shahroodi gave him technical votes (to complete the formality of becoming a Grand Ayat.) after he and Khomeini’s son Ahmad (almost immediately murdered by the usurper) colluded to forge an edict from the comatose (probably already dead Khomeini) to remove respected Ayat. Montazeri as his chosen successor.

3. Ahmadi-Nejad and the usurper’s middle son Mojtaba Khamenei colluded here to grab power and put Mojtaba on track for a fraudulent (as per his dad) circumvention of the need to be a Grand Ayat., position of Supreme Ruler as inheritor of his dad’s power.

4. Toward this end, Mojtaba imported the worst of the worst murderers and criminals from Hamas and Palestinian jails to use as his mercenary hitmen against the protesters. Some 15,000 of them after the initial 5,000

5. Ahmadi-Nejad and his IRGC (rev. guard) colleagues he put into position immediately after his first “selection” in 2005 have consolidated this power and recently it has been Old Porky (obese 2-star Commander of the Rev. Guards - Firoozabadi) who has been calling the shots behind the scenes. Fronted by prez A-N and middle son Mojtaba.

6. So far so good. And still conventional within the clerical rivalries.

7. The anti election protests added some secular players and brought cracks in the IRI clerics up front.

8. The POrky Commander is currently taking over command of the Mojtaba Bassiji mercenaries to expand the IRGC power base. Mojtaba thinks this is all part of the plan. Not that he can NORMALLY take on the IRGC (rev guards) and alienate prez A-N

Except that his Supreme Ruler father has fallen out with prez A-N for his handling of the fraudulent elections and allowing the fraud to surface.!!! 9. Now for the flies in the ointment:

a) The election rivalries gave birth to long suppressed hate for the clerics and the Islamic Regime among the people.

b) Obama’s support for the Islamic Regime and not the people has prevented a greater outpouring of dissent.

, though they are puzzled by his apparent renewed support for Khamenei and throwing A-N under the bus. c) The clerics have suddenly found theselves fighting for survival, not simply a new power structure.

d) They have beset the poulace with every possible desecration of their minds, bodies and loss of life - BUT have only succeeded in lowering the flames, not putting them out. Complicating the ability of the clerics to operate as desired.

(or really hlding talks wit Oba-Hussein). 5. The newst power block consists of FIVE Iraqi born brothers, the Larijani brood (also reportedly converts from Judaism to Islam).

One is already speaker of the Parliament.

Another (still a minor cleric) has just been appointed Head of the Judiciary.

A third is a fairly heavy hitting deputy Minister .

It’s been a long long Columbus day and I do not clearly remember the other two, other than one or both of them are in policy making levels of the Regime with one in intel.

This family does NOT like prez A-N and are likely to disembowel his power grab efforts with Mojaba Khamenei.

Slight complications here as the Larijnis are relatives of the Supreme Ruler usurper The brothers do not specially like two other major players, Rafsanjani and Khatami but would appear to be closer to them than to Khamenei.

NOTE: Rafsanjani is a world level MULTIBILLIONAIRE and funded the anti A-N demonstrations for the so-called Greens.

The Larijanis will possibly think of him as their source of funds till they can get their hands on national budgets.

AND FINALLY - the Russians and the Chinese presence, influence and existing multi-billion contracts they have in hand with the Islamic Regime and could lose.

Specially as the latest rumor coming out of Iran is that they have offered out nearly a trillion and a half dollars of contracts just last week as incentives for support from these countries and the West.

With all that and MORE cooking, your guess is as good as mine as to which way the cookie is or will crumbling

Now for the LATEST feedback from IRAN which came up as THIS was being written. Khamenei is pretending to be this sick!

Both sources are good so this conflict of infomration also needs to wait for a more decisive outcome.

Perhaps a welcome funeral would do it.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 7:12:38 PM PDT by FARS (Be happy, Be well and Thrive)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And the thicken plots.


18 posted on 10/13/2009 7:19:26 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

MEMORIALIZED IN SONG -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2361088/posts

And on http://www.antimullah.com/


19 posted on 10/13/2009 7:46:24 PM PDT by doug from upland (10+ million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: rfp1234

You are right, that reference to “the gods” is distinctly un-Iranian. Also, there have been false stories before that Khamenei has died. Not that it matters, for he could be replaced fast enough.


20 posted on 10/13/2009 7:59:39 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: FARS
Comas only pay 3 virgins, my friend.
He has a ways to go, assume room temp to hit the jack pot.
21 posted on 10/13/2009 8:02:42 PM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping, Fars.


22 posted on 10/13/2009 8:02:42 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: FARS

May the turd of paradise fly up all their noses and suffocate them one by one so that they KNOW they will die as all their victims pass judgement upon them.


23 posted on 10/13/2009 8:25:53 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 10/13/2009 8:38:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Prayers for the Iranian people.

Pray for America and Our Troops


25 posted on 10/13/2009 8:42:45 PM PDT by bray (Hope and Corruption)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; seanmerc
It’s just a matter of time before he goes to the afterlife
to spend eternity with his group of 72 virgin
...with / Helen Thomas.


26 posted on 10/13/2009 10:25:07 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: FARS
Reminds me of the last days of Yesser, Araf*ck! They kept that piece of sh*t alive just long enough for his wife to stash the Jimmy Carter cash in Switzerland. Pull the plug!!!
27 posted on 10/13/2009 11:27:06 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: FARS
Good analysis, FARS. Gonna go hot soon ................ FRegards
28 posted on 10/15/2009 1:12:47 AM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo! You should already have the guns .................. FRegards)
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