Political expression.
Hate speech.
Any remaining patriots in Britain should be worried. Very worried.
Posted on 10/17/2009 6:07:06 AM PDT by Amerisrael
A Christian couple in England is now at risk of losing their business after being prosecuted for debating Islam with a Muslim guest.
Police arrested Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang, who run the Bounty House Hotel in Liverpool, after a Muslim woman complained that she was offended by comments made to her in March. Because the legal case is ongoing the couple cannot comment publicly.
According to newspaper reports, the debate at the hotel involved discussion of whether Jesus was the son of God or just a minor prophet of Islam. Newspapers also reported the debate included comments that Mohammed was a warlord and Muslim dress for women was a form of bondage.
more at CBN
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Unbelievable!!
Arrested for discussing religion? What did they charge them with?
The dhimmis of Britain better start fighting back or just give up and submit.
Disagreeing with Moslems. That would be a crime, you know.
Anti-Muslim statements?
They should be getting the death penalty presently, as well they should.
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>> What did they charge them with?
Probably some hate crime for speaking against another person’s religion.
But, if there was a “debate” wasn’t the muslim guest guilty of the same crime??
Ultimate hypocrites!
Hating the true faith is all that’s for.
Tactic: Start a conversation about culture, religion, ethnicity, or origin of country and then go complain that the other party that was attempting to be civil (grown up/advanced thinking) go and file a complaint against them. Once the complaint goes forward and the unsuspecting party is arrested, the rest of the public will be afraid to say anything to anyone in fear of being arrested for freedom of debate.
Jihads come in all forms - just not plain-to-see violence...but this is just the beginning - I’m sure it will culminate into full blown civil strife before it’s all over...
So, you’re arrested and prosecuted in England now for offending someone? This will stop at some point. Free loving people can’t live in a repressive society.
Time to set sail once again for lands unknown, where a person is free to worship God without government persecution. England is now a Muslim nation, protected by the power of government.
The privileged classes can make you lose your business, money, reputation, life just by lodging a complaint against you.
You will be automatically wrong and guilty, because you belong to an “oppressor” class (White, Christian, Jewish, Male)
Saving
Hate speech.
Any remaining patriots in Britain should be worried. Very worried.
I’ll save the airfare and wait for the laws to come here. It’s just a matter of time.
“What did they charge them with?”
Speaking while Christian. It’s the new ‘driving while black’.
When the Muslim population of Great Britain decides to rise in a violent jihad it will take only hours to subjugate GB. They are being eaten , in tiny bites like this, by millions of pirhana. And they can’t even see it. They even defend it!
“I’ll save the airfare and wait for the laws to come here. It’s just a matter of time.”
I might be inclined to agree. But there is one thing we still hvve that the Englisg don’t...Guns.
Shhh. Don’t warn them!
So England is totally a muslim country now. Who would have believed they would let themselves sink this low. OTH, look at what is happening to us with the communist in the WH and all his marxist minions trying to dictate to us.
According to newspaper reports, the debate at the hotel involved discussion of whether Jesus was the son of God or just a minor prophet of Islam.
The number of angels on the head of a pin alert...
Neither will the socialist in our White House if he tries to use them against the people of the United States.
They used to, until the government took them away! That is going to happen here also, just a matter of time.
Gee .. I can’t wait to see how many complaints I”M going to get when I keep announcing that:
ISLAM is nothing but a MURDEROUS TERRORIST CULT!!! it’s basic tenets are diametrically opposed to the basic tenets of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS, and thru my studies... it is a CULT.
So, CAIR be DAMNED, There are 2 of my 1st amendment rights you will NOT TREAD, unless you wish to see how well I defend my 2nd Amendment Rights...
MURDEROUS, TERRORIST CULT of ISLAM be DAMNED.. waah waah waah
Gee .. I can’t wait to see how many complaints I”M going to get when I keep announcing that:
ISLAM is nothing but a MURDEROUS TERRORIST CULT!!! it’s basic tenets are diametrically opposed to the basic tenets of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS, and thru my studies... it is a CULT.
So, CAIR be DAMNED, There are 2 of my 1st amendment rights you will NOT TREAD, unless you wish to see how well I defend my 2nd Amendment Rights...
MURDEROUS, TERRORIST CULT of ISLAM be DAMNED.. waah waah waah
Obama and his thugs will do the same here.
“They used to, until the government took them away! That is going to happen here also, just a matter of time.”
If a rouge government should ever take our guns, Well...There are always alternatives.
Sure, but most of the folks that I know can’t use the slingshot and marble routine to re-fit, just as most of the gun owners that I know can’t shoot worth a crap and have no military or survival experience. The plain fact is that we are just as afraid to lose our warm and fuzzy lifestyles as the Canadians, Aussies, and Brits. Those people traded their freedom for a warm bed and a chance at one more day of mediocrity and so will we. Those that don’t will be killed or caught in short order, and even Freepers will be making jokes about their tin-foil hats.
Here are some accounts of the story from other news publications.
It has not been made clear how the debate got started.
According to the DUBAI(Al Arabiya)account, it was the hotel owners who started the debate when the female Muslim guest came down to breakfast wearing a “hijab” or headscarf for the first time in her four-week stay - allegedly “shocking” the hoteliers Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/09/22/85720.html
Here is the story according to the Belfast Telegraph.
Even the “Friendly Atheist” seems to be sympathetic to the Christian couple so far.
Stay tuned.
I suspect it's a whole lot easier to get the National Guard to violate the Constitution in a genuine emergency than it is in an invented socialist "crisis".
In other words, in America,unlike the Britain, Americans have guns, so better mind the p’s and q’s.
But gun sales have been going up through the roof!
Plus those in the armed forces,including those in the NG, because of the lack of support going on in Afghanistan, will turn against Obama in angry backlash.
Please see post 36.
With more of our military being put into harm’s way in Afghanistan, and Obama not listening to the general, this could create a growing non-support for Obama by the military/NG at the end of the day.
I would venture a guess, partly based on folks that I know, and speculate that 50% of the firearms and ammo being purchased is for investment. It is one of the few commodities appreciating in value besides gold. Only a very few men that I know, and none of the women, would even consider a civil war scenario as an option to this governmental coupe in progress. Unless the powers that be start a drive that leads to police actions around the country, “We the People” will not stand up, and very few will then. History has recorded these same events time after time and only a handful of resistance fighters ever emerge from the population, and they generally are hunted down like dogs. Still, if you have the stomach for it, being in the “Resistance” has a certain appeal, and it doesn’t necessarily mean living in the low country eating bugs. Resist right where you are, starting right now!
Amen to that. As they say, when push comes to sholve!
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