Posted on 10/25/2009 1:24:48 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
Thanks...that article helps define and organize a lot of my loose thoughts.
Saying goodbye to someone you love with everything you are, is one of the most difficult things anyone does.
This just must be my day to remember, and grieve my grief (*again*). Now I can never read one of your posts without knowing who is writing.
God bless you, FRiend.
LOL...this is FR. Sooner or later I'll say something that really ticks you off ;-)
LOL...this is FR. Sooner or later I'll say something that really ticks you off ;-)
Absolutely. So, when I haul off and smack you down, Joe, I'll know who you are. ;-D
Please don’t tell me that post was a thread killer. I’m really tiny and haven’t ever smacked anyone down, except verbally, of course. :-D
Does her name really begin with a K?
LOL...what does that have to do with anything?
Well I was going to ask a more in depth question about why alcoholics will drink themselves until death. (A guy I knew...liver shot drank until he died with a catheter bag attached. Another alcoholic was in a coma after a work accident still wanted a drink screw that oxycontin. A 90 year old man has hardly any stomache left still drinks...)
But I thought I’d ask the dumb question first and get it out of the way.
I could discuss that question for hours, but my short answer is this. Alcoholics who have not found a healthy system of recovery are spiritual wrecks with deeply buried insecurities and self loathing. Frequently, there's over compensation in one's public persona, and any honest alcoholic will understand the notion of "an egomaniac with an inferiority complex." Why do we drink ourselves to death? Simple answer: it's suicide on the installment plan.
Thank you my friend!
You’re sadly correct. I know an individual that after retiring from the military went into a constant drunk of depression.
This person’s character was not to ever off themself yet they spoke of suicide once in this depression.<-— If that makes sense.
This person although a highly decorated public speaker forced by the military- had social anxiety dosorder.
Your story helped me to TRY to understand them. For I never could.
1)How do you confront and isolate pain?
2) Have you thought of contacting K maybe it is your time maybe not but how do you know?
I am sorry I am getting too deep and personal I have no idea why. If it offends just tell me to stfu.
"1)How do you confront and isolate pain?"
It's not easy...keep in mind my analogy of extracting a glass of water from a bowl of stew. The pain (i.e "water") is simply the medium in which all these other ingredients (i.e. anger, rage, fear, etc.) are mixed. Some are like the carrots, easy to identify and pick out. Others like the broth, are not quite so easy to strain out. For me, prayer has been the primary means of dealing with this. Getting on my knees and asking God to remove the anger, lust, insecurity, etc.) has been invaluable. Identifying to myself each separate emotion makes them much easier to confront and diminish. For example, anger. I was initially filled with anger when she said she wanted to end our relationship. But when I examined what I was angry about, and where that anger might take me, I came to see it as wasted emotion. No good would come of it. I believe there is such a thing as righteous anger and moral outrage which drives people to do brave and courageous things, but in this case, the anger was not of that type. My anger would have only caused her pain, and in my opinion, there was already enough pain in the situation for both of us. Pray to God to take it away, and He will, and like I wrote in my initial post, once all these purely peripheral emotions are dealt with, one comes to deal with the pain in its own pure form.
"2) Have you thought of contacting K maybe it is your time maybe not but how do you know?"
We have spoken, and she knows my feelings for her and my desire for her to be happy and find true peace and happiness. She knows I'm willing to play as big or small a role in that as she wishes me to. I've made the decisions God has empowered me to make, and it would be presumptive or vain for me to meddle in the decisions He has empowered her to make.
Please don't feel like your questions are intrusive or personal...it does me good to articulate these things, and if they bring you some sense of understanding or help in organizing your own thoughts or feelings, I'm glad I could help :-)
Wow. God has blessed you with a very special clarity of wisdom.
You really should do motivational speaking on this matter to help others.
You helped me understand somewhat better another soul.
More questions for thought...
If someones parent is an alcoholic is it inherited or in the genes? or both?
I have seen a circumstance involving beer that the alcoholic stated when they were young beer drinking gave them severe headaches. Then they craved it... like no other?
In an AA book I think I read about alcoholics being severely allergic to hops therefore craving it. What are your thoughts on this?
I've found my relief in considering it a spiritual matter and dealing with it in those terms.
Good for you. May God Bless you and send you an angel for further guidance.
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