giggity.....
Posted on 10/28/2009 11:17:56 AM PDT by buszero
It is not a secret to any of us that the United Nations Charter is simply the Communist Manifesto which had be modified and adapted for the vindictive expedience of transferring the wealth from the people living who are living world leaders such as the United States to the Socialist elites. We’ve all seen the faces and the bare-naked bodies of impoverished children who had been exploited for this kind of extortion. These organizations are always operated and promoted by the elites such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, but the impoverished people who are shown on their posters and other advertising media never get ahead in life. Thus, the simple question remains that if the United Nations is doing such a good deed, then why are they not educating these people in the right manner and helping them with their economies so that they can work for a living and get themselves ahead in life? It is everyday exposure to such propaganda that has molded the members of the American society to donate the money that they had worked hard for toward these organizations.
Enter Cap and Trade. And like the exploitation mentioned above, it is used for the Socialist purposes of the United Nations. But it has a different twist, especially for Conservatives.
The Cap and Trade quagmire for conservatives is that if you support it, you are a Communist because you are actually advocating the advancement of a series of products and ideas, such as solar panels and wind farms, based on a science that is completely false. Therefore, it is solely for the purpose of advancing the United Nations’ agenda. That’s simple, and everybody knows that.
Here’s the tricky part. An article written by Obama’s Regulation Czar Cass Sunstein called “Climate Change Justice” reveals the arguments against the Chinese government because Cap and Trade is something that they (the Chinese government) clearly do not want in the first place. If you do not have time to read the entire 40+ pages, here is the link to my notes. This is why China has said that if the the “Climage Change” part of it is being forced on them, then it should be done on a per capita basis, and this is something that the Progressives of the American left are against. Therefore, if a Conservative is against Cap and Trade, then he stands on the same side as the evil “ChiCom” government that he has an inherent hatred for.
Pick your poison, folks. Either way, you’re a … “Communist?” Right?
Having come from a family that once ran away from Mao, my understanding is that Jiang ZeMin was the last of the “old communists,” and he stepped down after being the President of China before Hu Jintao. The current Chinese government is doing all they can to advance themselves on the basis of capitalism and turning a blind eye to a fourishing Christian population. Hence, I urge all the Conservatives to turn a blind eye to the fact that the Chinese government is “Communist,” and go with your gut in opposing Cap and Trade simply because it is an idea of larceny that is born out of this liberal majority, and it based on a fabricated science used to manipulate America to give up its sovereignty to the United Nations.
They do not want to hamstring their economy any more than we conservatives do ours. That does not make us “communist” it makes us “not brain dead”.
We would become communists when we ascribe to the ideals of communism not when both of us agree that shooting ourselves in our economic head is a bad idea.
They do not want to hamstring their economy any more than we conservatives do ours. That does not make us “communist” it makes us “not brain dead”.
We would become communists when we ascribe to the ideals of communism not when both of us agree that shooting ourselves in our economic head is a bad idea.
IMO, Republicans aren’t on the spot at all about this. If they are FOR Cap & Trade, they will suffer the consequences and will forever be blamed for destroying our country. I could give a dang about the Chinese. THIS IS ABOUT THE UNITED STATES AND OUR WAY OF LIFE!
Bah, double post. Sorry mods!
Like I've said, go with your gut that it simply an idea that is wrong.
Yes. I'm just pointing out the way that Cap and Trade is going to be spun as "Anti-Chinese and Pro-American" as Sunstein did his paper.
My take on China is that given the thousands of years of higher civilization, they were not cut out for Communism for very long. They are too industrious. I like the people and have great hopes for them as a country. I don’t think we are natural enemies.
I think that's a pretty good evaluation so far even though I still would like to see them morph out of the "Communist" aspect of it.
I never looked at this a quagmire. China is interested in what is in the best interest of China. The global warming scam isn’t it. The second point worth considering is that neocommunism, though sprung from the feces of Stalin and Mao, is more subtle than Communism of old. It works through unification and deception, democracy instead of revolution, and the vision held by the elite despots of liberalism is crueler than the lunacy of Communism’s founders. China and Russia are irrelevant. The wealth and power of the West and the destruction of Western culture are the goals of our new tyrants, and the purpose of global warming.
giggity.....
Well... I'm not here to argue whether or not it's a quagmire. I am just trying to point out from reading Sunstein's paper that it's going to be spun as "Anti-Chinese and Pro-American," which is a point of view that many people who consider themselves as "Conservatives" like to take (maybe not you, personally). A bad idea versus a bad side to take. That's going to look funny to them.
But I do agree with you on the rest
“A bad idea versus a bad side to take.” I just think the dilemma is exaggerated, if it really exists at all. Conservatives should concern themselves with truth and doing what is right, and be damned the quandaries others want to find us in. Global warming is a socialist scam intended to transfer wealth and power from the ruled to the ruling elite. Whether or not that includes China, India, Russia or any other nations self-interested enough to avoid it doesn’t matter as long as most of the West is subdued by it.
My point exactly. Unfortunatly, I've had my squabbles about this even at this site, and I realize that it stems from a distaste of Communism such that its a bad idea in the first place and that there have been events in history that are unjustified.
I definitely hope you're right that they've awakened. But you also have to remember that we are facing the largest and most powerful propaganda machine in this world's history. It's powerful enough to get Barack Obama elected without any credentials to be President in the first place. So, again, I hope you're right.
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