Comments on Takuan Seiyo's Screed

The Occidental Observer ^ | June 14, 2009 | Kevin MacDonald

[ihatedemocrats]

It seems that lately most of my critics have been Jews associated with the paleoconservative right: Paul Gottfried, Robert Weissberg (see my reply after Weissberg's comment), and Lawrence Auster. Takuan Seiyo’s critique rehashes familiar arguments in a particularly nasty way, speaking, for example, of my "malice and brain-dead stupidity."

Such characterizations must be understood as nothing more or less than attempts to draw boundaries of acceptable political discourse in a way that is acceptable to Jewish interests. It's exactly the sort of thing that Jewish neoconservatives did to vitiate the American conservative movement by excluding people like Pat Buchanan and Sam Francis.

But because Seiyo's comments have led to much rejoicing among like-minded co-ethnics (see here and here), I feel obliged to respond, if only to restate some points that perhaps need repeating. In general, Seiyo agrees that many Jews have negative attitudes toward and have acted to subvert the peoples and culture of the West. But he frames Jewish behavior as motivated by nothing but the highest morality, or he claims that Jewish behavior is justified because of a long history of persecution. I reject both of these arguments.

[ihatedemocrats]

Here is MacDonald's response to Takuan Seiyo. I am posting both sides of the argument, so you can decide which argument you prefer.

[decimon]

Here is MacDonald's response to Takuan Seiyo. I am posting both sides of the argument, so you can decide which argument you prefer.

The argument I prefer is my own. My argument is to promote your values rather than group your opposition.

[rmlew]

KMac knows nothing about Jews or Judaism and his argument comes down to confusing self-destructive liberalism with a survival strategy.

[Just mythoughts]

KMac knows nothing about Jews or Judaism and his argument comes down to confusing self-destructive liberalism with a survival strategy.

OK so what is the 'survival strategy'? Now I can read every day what the liberal strategy is and that is the complete destruction of the American middle class. And the majority of Americans in that 'middle' class also happen to be of Caucasian origins. Course it has become common place to tear down their culture and the fabric that makes a 'civil' society.

[rmlew]

It is not a survival strategy. But MacDonald believes that Jews play a double game of pushing universalism on host societies while being ruthlessly self interested. That universalism is killing us and these behavior are liberal and grievence oriented and not limited to Jews is beyond him. That they are not shared by all Jewish groups is beyond a man who doesn’t understand differences within Askhenazi groups, much less differences with other groups of Jews and actual theological issues.