Posted on 11/10/2009 11:55:00 AM PST by B-Chan
You say you want a government centered on the christian faith...
No, I don't say that. I want a civilization centered on the Christian faith, a culture centered on the Christian faith. Government's proper role is to protect life, property, and patrimony, not to save souls or administer the Sacraments.
You come across in all of your posts as an arrogant elitist.
I am an arrogant elitist. The arrogance is a fault, for which I apologize. The elitism is simply a recognition of the reality that some people really are better than others.
If it makes you feel any better, I don't consider myself to be part of any elite.
The fruits of the spirit certainly don’t emanate from your posts.
In what way? I don't hate anyone. I don't want to see anyone killed or hurt. I don't call people names or attack them personally.
You demonstrate a hatred of American conservatives, particularly Rush Limbaugh.
Huh? I've never met Mr. Limbaugh, so how could I hate him? From all I've heard, he's a prince of fellow. Yes, he's a classic Chamber-of-Commerce free-market liberal, in that he holds individual liberty to be the greatest good, but I certainly don't hate him for that. He's wrong, sure, but so are a lot of others. When I think about Mr. Limbaugh at all, I admire his enterprise and his skill as a soap salesman.
His listeners, however, are almost all lumpen ignoramuses of the least-developed kind, as five minutes of listening to his show will demonstrate. "Mega-DIT-tos, Rush! Yew're a breath uv fresh ayer! Yew really hit thuh nay-il on the hay-ud!" Arrrgh! It's like listening to the characters of Li'l Abner talk about world affairs for three hours. I will never know how anyone endures it.
With the results you see all around you.
A stable democracy, with a wealthy society, where people are free to persue their own religion (or not).
So strong, it will even survive Obama.
Yeah, it’s terrible.
Since you hate being around Protestants and Jews so much, why don’t you go move to Honduras or one of the other hell holes with official Roman Catholic state religion?
The one that created science, Rheims Cathedral, the symphony, the subsidiary government, agricultural surpluses, church bells, representational art, and many other things.
Heretics were burned in the Middle Ages -- just as we "burn" spies and saboteurs and terrorists today. Then as now, some of these happen to be Protestants and Jews.
Many Catholics were burned, too, some of whom later became saints. As I said, a Christian commonwealth isn't an attempt to create a paradise, a perfect society, a "heaven on Earth". It's simply a commonwealth centered upon the Christian faith. Like any government of men, it is imperfect. If some heretics were burned unjustly, many more were burned who deserved to die for making war on their fellow men.
Sold indulgences?
One never could "buy" indulgences. The financial scandal surrounding indulgences, the scandal that gave Martin Luther an excuse for his heterodoxy, involved alms—indulgences in which the giving of alms to some charitable fund or foundation was used as the occasion to grant the indulgence. There was no outright selling of indulgences. The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "[I]t is easy to see how abuses crept in. Among the good works which might be encouraged by being made the condition of an indulgence, almsgiving would naturally hold a conspicuous place. . . . It is well to observe that in these purposes there is nothing essentially evil. To give money to God or to the poor is a praiseworthy act, and, when it is done from right motives, it will surely not go unrewarded."The Council of Trent instituted severe reforms in the practice of granting indulgences, and, because of prior abuses, "In 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions" (Catholic Encyclopedia). This act proved the Church’s seriousness about removing abuses from indulgences.1
As said before, it’s the Taliban.
You don't know much about the Taliban.
You’re not talking about the topic any more. You’re talking about me. If you want to discuss the topic, I’m here. Otherwise, forget it.
The topic is your sick desire to destroy the United States, impose an official Roman Catholic state, presumably kill or imprison Protestants, Jews, or other non-Roman Catholics.
If you hate it here so much, go to the utopia of Honduras or the like.
I am so happy your church rejects things like you.
Those are your words, not mine. I don't desire any of those things.
If you hate it here so much, go to the utopia of Honduras or the like.
Who says I hate it here? I'm quite happy with my life.
I am so happy your church rejects things like you.
I'm not going to hit the Abuse Button (only wusses do that), but really, personal abuse is so weak. Is that the best you can do?
Your hatred is clear.
There’s a big difference between wanting the freedom to murder your baby and freedom to not have the government steal half of your income. If you think Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi give a rats behind about individual liberty you’re a hopeless fool. By the way, you do realize that arrogance is a sin. As for Rush listeners, studies repeatedly show them to be more informed than the average citizen.
Both abortion and unjust taxation are immoral.
If you think Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi give a rats behind about individual liberty you’re a hopeless fool.
They're just demagogues -- opportunists who use charisma to capitalize on the foolishness of the voters in order to feather their own nests. They could care less about individual liberty per se as long as they get the money and power they crave. Ideologues like William Ayers are the real danger: radical liberals who hate God, families, and anything that might restrict their desires. They'd kill off everyone who isn't like them if they could -- and all in the name of liberty.
By the way, you do realize that arrogance is a sin.
Yep, and I'm a sinner. I hope you'll pray for me.
As for Rush listeners, studies repeatedly show them to be more informed than the average citizen.
Cite, please.
It was a Pew Research study. I can’t find a link that works, but it said that 48% of people who regularly listen to Rush had high knowledge. Only people who read publications such as the Weekly Standard, National Review and New Republic scored higher. In contrast only 21% of those who rely on MSNBC for their news had high knowledge. Most of Rush’s callers aren’t dumb as much as they are nervous and tongue-tied.
Interesting. When you find the study, please post it.
And I have no doubt that Limbaugh listeners are smarter than the 172 cretins who still watch MSNBC.
I am not a Dominionist. Please see definitions above.
Wow. Whoever wrote this makes Bill "it depends what the meaning of 'is' is" Clinton look like a rank amateur....
Really, I have to wonder why you insist on posting here. You know perfectly well that this site is dedicated to freedom and republicanism -- it says so right in the name -- so how are you different, really, from a common DUmpster troll?
Say whut?
I've never met Osama bin Laden, but you can bet your bottom dollar that I hate him, for obvious reasons.
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