Skip to comments.Seeking Freepers for Jihadi Training Camp Observation and Information
Posted on 11/17/2009 11:29:10 AM PST by Candor7
We need an observation network of Jihadi Training Camps in the USA. Our government has now classified terrorist acts as crimes. That invokes the right of citizen self defence agaist crimes. To defend ourselves we need information on threat, which our government, including Homeland Security, no longer provides to the people.
We need to do that ourselves.
A Congressional Hearing into the Issue has been derailed.
We need to organize.
Seeking Freepers in these locations who are interested in providing information:
Jamaat ul-Fuqra camps
(Also known as Muslims of America and Quranic Open University)
1. Deposit, NY
2. Hancock, NY (National Headquarters)
3. Springfield, MA
4. Philadelphia, PA
5. Hyattsville, MD
6. Fairfax, VA
7. Bethany, WV
8. Red House, VA
9. Meherrin, VA
10. Dover, TN
11. York, SC
12. Commerce, GA
13. Jessup, GA
14. Marion, AL
15. Houston, TX
16. Talihina, OK
17. Coldwater, MI
18. Buena Vista, CO (Raided and shut down by Colorado authorities in 1992)
19. Baladullah, CA (Leader convicted of scamming state out of $1.3 million in 2006. Compound now abandoned.)
20. Oak Hill, CA
21. Onalaska, WA
Considering how keyed up I am about it all I can just imagine.
Hancock, NY, 2007
I haven't been by in a little over two years...but then, there was absolutely nothing there.
I'll check in with family to see what they know...but I strongly believe there could not be a terrorist camp there. The locals wouldn't put up with it.
Each, and every, person that lives in those parts is ARMED TO THE TEETH and they OWN local law enforcement.
This is not your average community. It's the epicenter of patriots for the entire state. If you make the assumption of 200 households within a 5 mile radius...there are AT LEAST 400 assault weapons and 500k rounds of ammo.
If outsiders started building something...they'd have to answer for what it was they were building. If they were shooting there, they'd REALLY have to come up with some damn good answers.
Even though Jamaat ul-Fuqra has been involved in terror attacks and sundry criminal activities, recruited thousands of members from federal and state penal systems, and appears to be operating paramilitary facilities for militant Muslims, it remains to be placed on the official US Terror Watch List. On the contrary, it continues to operate, flourish, and expand as a legitimate nonprofit, tax-deductible charity.
Isn't that special? Most of us would have our property taken and our lives ruined, by the government, just for some of the county code violations going on there.
Sounds like the town I live in now.
Sometiems these places are just for caches and bunkers. Sometimes just for camping and exercises.
It would be interesting to see what the town clerk knows about ownership.
Paul WIlliams seemed to think there is a hammat there ( camp) but I don’t know why yet.He lists it as late as March of 2009:
Follow up on Islamberg, , the range is not used now. They do bunker training, whatever that might be.
Here is a little intel update.The basic training is complete, specific intel is being gathered in the opinion of the poster here:
Interesting source material for several Hammats , on the left side as you scroll down.
It appears that the basic training is complete and that planning phase and intel ops are now what is being engaged.
Camps can be observed without whoever is using them being infiltrated.
But exact locations, either conventional directions/addresses, or WGS-84 (GPS) coordinate, would be most helpful. Houston is a big place for instance, and there is a lot of country, fairly hilly country, around Talihina, OK.
We have just begun to get details together. We have GPS for Onalaska in Washington.
I think we should all write letters and emails to our representatives about these camps.
Our Congress people’s people will talk to the jihadi’s people and the ACLU will jump in and sue all of us for harassing the peaceful Muslims.
I guess if the Muslims want to have compounds with firing ranges and train,just like ROTC, it’s OK with the govt.
I highly doubt if the Jihadis will all come back to the camps and attack America from them.
I highly doubt if the Jihadis will all come back to the camps and attack America from them.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I agree, but its now more complex.
My research shows that most of the camps hae served their purpose of basic small arms training and guerilla movement training, ambushes securing hiostages etc.
Most of the camps are now empty for but a few, and the former inhabitants are involved in planning or intel work, and some are in jobs where they can do that easily.The camps are used for specialized training using bunkers, but only for short periods of time.
In New York, many of them work on interstate tolls for the NY Transit Authority, and others work for credit card companies.Both of these endeavors are strategically important for their present operations and planning.
Research continues on about each of the locations to ascertain the pesent disposition of each camp.Three are closed, 2 in California, and one in Colorado , because of run ins with the law.Islamberg in New York is in disrepair with only a few living there.However, there is a system of undergroud bunkers there which was contructed fairly recently.
Camps can be observed without whoever is using them being infiltrated.
Yeah, general information can be developed from public information and sources. And that would be useful.
But, the way I was reading this posting above was that it was more about the specifics of what goes on inside and what is happening and the teacing and training and materials -- which would require people going in and being "undetected" and bringing out this information to the public.
That would be highly dangerous work and it's surely not for the majority of people here.
For new lurkers, the Bump in post no. 66 is a bump for post no. 12.
Note to self:
Displayed coordinates are those of the town. Hyperlinked coordinates are 46.55182, -122.71432, south of town.
Tool used: Google Earth
More aggression, Lillburn, Georgia:
Coss thread Ping/reference: Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.
Welcome aboard. Ping list evolving.
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/28/09 | WorldNetDaily
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:33:49 PM by AtlasStalled
P. David Gaubatz, co-author of “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America,” will be a guest on “Coast to Coast With George Noory” tonight (Sunday morning) for three hours beginning at 2 a.m. Eastern time. Filling in for Noory will be guest host Ian Punnett.
Here is a link to hear Coast to Coast streaming on the internet which is what I will do.
Ping and cross thread reference :
Is Denver mosque encouraging terrorism?
"I have read that 80% of US Mosques have a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the parent organizations of Al Qaida. Is CMS in that group?"
"On their website they have a link to CAIR, which poses as a Muslim civil rights organization but which investigators have tied to the terrorist group Hamas. I would want to know their position on all of that."
Hey this is a great inofrmation source. And we have reorter to email, if anything goes down in the Denver area in the future.
Here is another interesting Colorado connection:
Looks like Sayyid Qutb wasn’t into cowboys,the article provides interesting insight on how these jihadis view America, and so why do so many come here to live is the question?
Some good background on that page.
My research shows that the leading Vermont counter jihad group is the Defenders Council of Vermont.They are serious about keeping an eye on them and have an organized community network, mostly of Vermont National Guardsmen who have served in Iraq.
Seriously, they were concerned citizens, and now wonder what kind of list they might be on and how it might be used.
AD reporting for duty, how can I help? FR mail me with info.
thanks for the ping pennie! This needs to happen. If the gov’t won’t stop these animals, we will!!
Could Mumbai Happen Here?
Important security based newsletter to subscribe to, they are on the cutting edge on what is happening in the USA with terrorists and Islamofascists:
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Pajamas Media ^
| December 1, 2009 | Ryan Mauro
Posted on 12/01/2009 5:33:34 AM PST
Thanks Hennie, I was about to post the reference here but you beat me to it! This is why we have this thread! Soon we will have an intel net across the country, just a few more weeks to reach critical mass.
Black Muslim Group Celebrates Brother & Martyr Maurice Clemmons
Jim Hoft ^ | 12/1/09 | Jim Hoft
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:29:30 PM by American Dream 246
For Many Are Called But Few Are Chosen. BOW Martyr Against White Terrorist & Racist Police Regime (Maurice Clemmons) Adorned With Virgins, Jewelry & Crowned; When the Battle is Over, We Shall Wear a Crown. Seattle Black Foot Soldiers
The Seattle Blackfoot Soldiers, an offshoot of the Nation of Islam, celebrated cop killer Maurice Clemmons:
BOW- Black on White Via Black Male Felon
Theres more. The website also asks: Whos Your Favorite Officer Down: Mark Renninger, Tina Griswold, Greg Richards or Ronald Owens; Seattle Black Foot Soldiers: Shootings a Preemptive Strike on Terrorists
The Last Crusade reportedly has learned from an Arkansas law enforcement official, became a member of the Nation of Islam while serving time in the Cummins Prison. I havent been able to verify this.
Black Foot Soldiers of Seattle web site:
“Something is up” PING!
Homeland Security chief warns of threat from al-Qaeda sympathizers in U.S.
I wish we had more FREEPERS watching things across the country.This sounded like a Janet Napolitano CYA announcement for a coming incident.
Yeah, it is just appalling, isn’t it? Instead of forming a civilian neighborhood watch task force from coast to coast in the weeks after 911, instead Americans were told to go shopping in the Malls, to not worry about nuthin’ - just go spend money on Made-in-China goods.
Well...in this administration we are sitting ducks, but I would like to think it is Napolitano’s admission that Ft Hood was a terrorist jihad attack.
But maybe I have Ft Hood on my mind. Did you see this?
December 03, 2009
Terror-tied ISNA official teaching troops at Ft Hood about to deploy to Afghanistan, wrote of “preemptive strikes” against Islam’s enemies(UPDATED) It gets worse
“...conducting classes at Ft. Hood on Islam to troops about to deploy to Afghanistan.
There is this too:
Germany: Government Takes al-Qaeda Threats Seriously
By Larry Habegger | Permalink | No Comments | November 19th, 2009 | Trackback
The U.S. State Department reissued a travel alert for Germany warning of threats by al-Qaeda against German interests. The original threats mentioned the German elections in September, but German authorities feel the threats remain and are taking them seriously, continuing to actively investigate them. The travel alert encourages Americans to remain alert and aware, to maintain a low profile and take into consideration the level of security present when choosing hotels, restaurants, or visiting public places and events.
That AirTran flight with the muzzies on it was headed to Houston, so I doubt that Houston would be the target of something. They wouldn’t want to tip their hand like that. Houston might be a gathering point, however. There are quite a few Mosques here. One is only a few miles from my house.
Just checked the local Mosques website.
Many will be returning from Hajj on Dec 5th.
Ping to a must read thread:
Dry run to upset air travel or take over aircraft, UNDER REPORTED 17th Nov. 2009?
Haj returners responsible for Napolitanos Warning?
What Happened On AirTran Airways Flight 297,
This was MUCH more than a man with a cell phone! See this story of the TRUTH! One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox. This was NOT what happened. I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permit
To which one of the men said shut up infidel dog! She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin. This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say I got your back. I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane! As I led him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, You WILL do the same! He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually.
There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage. We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston. The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent we and our crew will not fly this plane! After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
Again ..this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked What the hell is going on!?!? I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said Im getting off this plane. The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. (now Im mad!) I said I am a grown man who bought this ticket, whos time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or Im going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!! And I heard a voice behind me say so am I. Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am.
Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston. If this wasnt a dry run, I dont know what one is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it. Im telling this to you because I want you to know . The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes . -Tedd Petruna
Iranian Crackdown Goes Global
Ping to #13
Whoaaaa! No wonder the air alert is red and maybe they meant it to be “extreme” and not “high.” Those Texas boys did good there although I would have been out of there the second those ragheads returned. No ifs ands or buts.
I did notice that and concluded that they did not want Severe to be on the blinker script for political reasons?
PU$$IES you know. LOL.
Pretty scary that air travel is that high but that story reveals a good reason for it. Naturally the story has been suppressed.
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