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Who has the "Stop Rudy" ping list? I think we need to resurrect it NOW!
Vanity | 11-19-09 | TitansAFC

Posted on 11/19/2009 6:12:52 PM PST by TitansAFC

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To: SoCalPol

Ronald Reagan might win all the more today. The public is turning against liberals after Obama and friends.

This is our chance for conservatism. Let’s FIGHT!


61 posted on 11/19/2009 8:06:08 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: SoCalPol

I know, and while I don’t want him for senator either, there is news that he may possibly use that (if he wins) as a stepping stone to run for President.


62 posted on 11/19/2009 8:08:50 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Lancey Howard

-—”Maybe the enemy of our enemy is our friend?”-—

I would hope so, because I like Rudy and would love to see him in the Senate. But though the enemy of our enemy may be our friend, that doesn’t mean they should be our leader. I would never vote for him for President, not even against Obama.

For the record, however, I do like a lot of things about Rudy. I don’t want anyone to think I don’t admire his gumption or unwavering support of the WOT. I think he’d make a fine NY Senator, and even a nice running mate for President Palin if he helps put her over the top.


63 posted on 11/19/2009 8:21:21 PM PST by TitansAFC (Socialism is a disease; Sarah Palin is the cure. Palin/Romney 2012 or Palin/Gingrich 2012!!)
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To: SoCalPol

Damn that looks beautiful!

Is the zoo as great as advertised? We have Brookfield Zoo, which is good, but short on some exotics......


64 posted on 11/19/2009 8:22:32 PM PST by TitansAFC (Socialism is a disease; Sarah Palin is the cure. Palin/Romney 2012 or Palin/Gingrich 2012!!)
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To: TitansAFC

Ours in largest the world with beautiful surrounings.

a fifth Panda was born here 3 months ago


65 posted on 11/19/2009 8:28:37 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: TitansAFC

I was against Rudy for POTUS from the beginning. But I’ll support him for the senate seat in New York. He will pound Obama and Gillibrand on security and may get some solid conservatives elected in the burbs and rural areas en route.


66 posted on 11/19/2009 8:30:55 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what you can do for Obama.)
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To: Pinkbell

“I don’t even want him for Senator with his position on abortion.”

Many people feel that way, particularly since his position on abortion is so EXTREME.


67 posted on 11/19/2009 8:44:18 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: SoCalPol

I have GOT to get to that zoo someday. Never been to Califormia, but gonna stop there if I ever visit the state.


68 posted on 11/19/2009 8:45:27 PM PST by TitansAFC (Socialism is a disease; Sarah Palin is the cure. Palin/Romney 2012 or Palin/Gingrich 2012!!)
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To: TitansAFC
I would never vote for him for President, not even against Obama.

You cannot possibly mean that.
Other than that, I agree with your post.

69 posted on 11/19/2009 8:50:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: The Wizard

Giuliani is a gun grabber, among other things—he has no business in the Senate OR as Attorney General.


70 posted on 11/19/2009 9:12:44 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: SoCalPol

Agree. Rudi Guiliani in the US Senate standing up to Leaky Leahy or Turban Durbin would be something to see!


71 posted on 11/19/2009 9:17:50 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: NautiNurse

Exactly what is the point of preaching to the choir about Obama here on FR? Personally, I save my barbs about Obama for people who don’t already realize what he is.

On the other hand, there are plenty of people here on FR who don’t realize what Giuliani, Huckabee and Romney (among others) are.


72 posted on 11/19/2009 9:20:04 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

“Giuliani is a gun grabber, “

Some people just glaze over that, because of Rudy’s charisma. Sounds like the Obama followers.


73 posted on 11/19/2009 9:21:07 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I’ll never vote for that turd...

If you are really from Oregon it matters little.

74 posted on 11/19/2009 9:28:59 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: NavyCanDo
If we put up the same old horses in 2012, Obama will win.

Exactly. I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that any restoration of a semblance of a Constitution Republic can only occur with the death of the Republican Party. Those bozos at the top are as much to blame for Obama as the democrat idjit voters.

75 posted on 11/19/2009 9:32:22 PM PST by jammer
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To: Sun

Exactly. It’s fun to watch Giuliani sound off, but the man has no respect for the Constitution. And the list of his corrupt appointees to top positions is a mile long (e.g., Bernie Kerik). AND, he got paid big bucks by the Saudi royal family as part of Giuliani Partners.

I don’t care what these politicians say, or how well they say it. Watch what they do.


76 posted on 11/19/2009 9:32:38 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

“Watch what they do.”

That’s right. We can’t vote for people who talk a pretty talk, or have charisma, we must vote on a candidate’s actions.

Rudy welcomed Planned Parenthood in NYC, and had nice words for Margaret Sanger.


77 posted on 11/19/2009 9:37:28 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: TitansAFC

Here are examples of Giuliani’s poor judgement (at best) or corruption (at worst). Is this the type of senator we want voting on white house appointees and judges?

He appointed high school dropout and former driver Bernard Kerik to NYC Police Commissioner and pushed him for Homeland Security Chief. Kerik turned out to be corrupt and mob-connected. Giuliani later testified that he had been briefed on Kerik’s lawbreaking — yet he pushed him for the top anti-terrorism post in the country, and then went into business with him.

For NYC Chancellor of Education, Giuliani pushed Leon Goldstein, who later was forced to withdraw his candidacy in disgrace because of allegations that he lied about his qualifications.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE0DB1539F93BA1575AC0A963958260

In 1995, Giuliani pushed Leonard Piccoli to an executive director job in NYC’s public hospitals organization, despite the fact that Piccoli had been forced to resign from the same job in 1985 due to alleged substantial contracts and ethics violations.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE6DC1739F93AA25756C0A963958260

One of Giuliani’s closest political allies in NYC, Guy Velella, pled guilty to and served time for taking bribes in return for awarding government contracts.

‘’I endorsed him, I support him, I’ve worked with him, I know what a good job he’s done for New York City and for the Bronx,’’ Mr. Giuliani said. The mayor said he thought the disclosures about the criminal investigation would not seriously damage the senator.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B02E3DF1639F930A35752C1A9669C8B63&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fV%2fVelella%2c%20Guy%20J%2e http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0420,robbins,53585,5.html

Giuliani’s Probation Commissioner Raul Russi, and Deputy Probation Commissioner Louis Gelormino, later were dismissed from their jobs under Bloomberg because of their involvement in Velella’s early release from jail.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10914FA355F0C708DDDA90994DC404482&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fV%2fVelella%2c%20Guy%20J%2e

After Ray Harding, head of NYC’s Liberal Party, endorsed Giuliani, Giuliani appointed his son Russell Harding to head NYC’s Housing Development Corporation — even though Russell Harding was a college dropout with no experience in housing or finance (Giuliani chose a second son, Robert, as NYC’s budget director, and later promoted him to deputy mayor). Russell Harding later pled guilty to embezzling hundreds of thousands in public funds, and to possessing child pornography.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0512,robbins2,62314,5.html

The Russell case brought down another of Giuliani’s top appointees. Giuliani appointed Richard Roberts NYC Housing Commissioner, and Chairman of the Health and Hospitals Corporation; Roberts was later convicted of perjury related to a $38,000 SUV Russell Harding bought him with city funds.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0436,robbins2,56554,5.html

Giuliani appointed his lifelong friend, Louis Carbonetti, Commissioner of NYC’s Community Assistance Unit. Carbonetti was forced to resign when news came out that he had allegedly failed to disclose more than $100,000 in business debts and back taxes and held two driver’s licenses with slightly different names at the same time. He pleaded guilty in 2004 to perjury. Carbonetti’s son, Anthony Carbonetti, was Giuliani’s chief of staff and was his senior political adviser in 2008.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/ny-lijani255229113may25,0,729089.story?coll=ny-lipolitics-headlines

Giuliani’s friend Alan Placa was hired on at Giuliani Partners after Placa, a Long Island Priest, was barred from the ministry because of allegations of sexual abuse and using his role as a spiritual adviser to gain information from victims to strengthen the diocese’s legal position.

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=46&aid=19106

When Giuliani promoted Kerik to Police Commissioner, he appointed William J. Fraser to replace him as Correction Commissioner. Fraser resigned in 2002 amid reports that he had paid Correction employees to work on his home, and had allegedly pushed them to work on Pataki’s reelection campaign.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60A13F73C5C0C748EDDA80994DA404482

Anthony Serra, a Giuliani campaign volunteer and high-ranking official in Giuliani’s Dept. of Correction (in charge of all the jails on Riker’s Island), resigned after being charged with stealing city property and ordering correction officers to renovate his home.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40913FB395B0C728DDDAC0894DB404482&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fOrganizations%2fR%2fRikers%20Island%20Prison%20Complex

In 1994, Giuliani appointed Anthony Schembri to Correction Commissioner. Shembri resigned a year later after disclosures that used a workday to make a paid speech in Atlantic City, had the city regularly pay overtime and tolls for department drivers on errands to Rye, N.Y., where he had been Police Commissioner, and broke the law by never establishing a residence in the City. Shcembri went on to head Florida’s troubled Juvenile Justice Dept.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E0D71630F937A15752C1A962958260

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Citrus/Colleagues__friends_h.shtml

Giuliani hired former Corrections Dept. Chief of Staff John Picciano at Giuliani Partners. Picciano, a close friend of Kerik’s, was accused of assaulting his girlfriend and threatening her with his gun in 1998. But he was never arrested. According to Terrence Skinner, a retired corrections supervisor, “{Kerik} told me that I should basically pretend it never happened.” Picciano left Giuliani Partners one day after Kerik abruptly resigned.

http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?id=19361&siteSection=1

Giuliani appointed Michael Carey, a son of former Gov. Hugh L. Carey, to head NYC’s Economic Development Corp. According to a “scathing” audit covering the last 18 months of Giuliani’s administration and the first six months of Bloomberg’s, the organization was used as a “little bank account for the mayor’s office” — paying for mayoral aides’ cars, lavish parties and out-of-town trips. For example, the audit states that it paid more than $11K for Carey’s going-away party, and $7K for the going-away-party of Catherine Giuliani, the organization’s chief of staff. It also bought at least 11 cars for the mayor’s office during Giuliani’s administration.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9900E2DC143FF933A25753C1A9659C8B63

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/premium/0286/0286-8873007.html


78 posted on 11/19/2009 9:39:52 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Respectfully, Giuliani is the opposite of a libertarian republican. He has no respect for gun rights, property rights, and many other rights that protect individuals from the State.


79 posted on 11/19/2009 9:53:51 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: SoCalPol

Giuliani is *no* fiscal conservative.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1812568/posts


80 posted on 11/19/2009 9:57:06 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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