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Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'?
Telegraph Blogs (U.K.) ^ | November 20, 2009 | James Delingpole

Posted on 11/20/2009 7:25:07 AM PST by Schnucki

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1 posted on 11/20/2009 7:25:09 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki
American media will attempt to ignore this. So I guess the question is how can we get them to cover it?

I have doubts that even FOX will go after this.
2 posted on 11/20/2009 7:28:42 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: sauropod

read


3 posted on 11/20/2009 7:28:46 AM PST by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: Schnucki
there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.

"Those damn observations don't match our predictions! Reality must be wrong."

These guys are loony.

4 posted on 11/20/2009 7:30:51 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: Schnucki

ping!


5 posted on 11/20/2009 7:33:08 AM PST by vanilla swirl (Maranatha!)
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To: Schnucki

Is the torrent download still active?

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206


6 posted on 11/20/2009 7:33:15 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Schnucki
In my opinion, Algore belongs in prison and his billions of dollars scammed from the public should be seized.
7 posted on 11/20/2009 7:34:12 AM PST by EggsAckley (There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply. W.C. Fields)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yeah, and its coming down FAST!! Sweet.


8 posted on 11/20/2009 7:35:54 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Have you looked through the files? I’ve spent about 30 minutes and let me tell...they’re freaking dynamite. DYN-O-MITE.

Everyone should download the files and go through them with a fine tooth comb. Here is a link to the torrent containing the data.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206

Everything is there. All the embarrassing stuff you’d find on any small office server in America. A photoshop, a lot of memos, some personal data...etc etc. But the best I’ve found so far is a pdf entitled “RulesOfTheGame.pdf”

Here is rule #17, no doubt authored by an Alinsky disciple.

“17. Use emotions and visuals
Another classic marketing rule: changing behaviour by
disseminating information doesn’t always work, but emotions
and visuals usually do.”

That’s right...a manual describing how you should manipulate people’s emotions. Good stuff.


9 posted on 11/20/2009 7:36:34 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Schnucki

Just a cursory look at what was released so far shows a couple of the people in these emails were some of the authors of the IPCC report.

We need real investigative journalism here to uncover the corruption and stench of criminality these scum have foisted upon us.


10 posted on 11/20/2009 7:36:38 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Schnucki

I’m sure the AP is assigning at least 11 “cracked” reporters to this right now. (;-)


11 posted on 11/20/2009 7:37:06 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: mmichaels1970
I have doubts that even FOX will go after this.

Actually I expect to see this show up on Fox. Might take awhile for the impact to really sink in. I've downloaded the data. There is a lot of it and I'm betting that the leaker has more. In any case, it will take some time to really absorb it. Some may be computer modeling code (don't quote me) and, if so, that would be very interesting to those who understand climate modeling.

12 posted on 11/20/2009 7:38:34 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Sorry, I must have been typing my post as you posted this, otherwise I wouldn’t have repeated the link.

I’m seeding away right now, as are hundreds of others. If you have broadband you’ll have it in a matter of minutes.


13 posted on 11/20/2009 7:38:39 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

THEY PREYED ON OUR FEARS!!!!!

LOLOL!!!!!


14 posted on 11/20/2009 7:38:49 AM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: FatherofFive

It is extraordinarily tempting for even a (generally) ethical person to twist or “mislay” data when he KNOWS something is TRUE.

We see this in cops and prosecutors who frame up a person they KNOW is guilty.

The temptation is no doubt even greater when there is a religious level of belief, when they see the conflict not between accurate and inaccurate, but between Good and Evil.

Of course, scientists aren’t supposed to look at issues in this way, since when they do they by definition stop being scientists.

Perhaps this story will eventually play out to show that scientists are also people, and are as prone to human failings as anyone else. So we shouldn’t elevate a scientist’s opinion that much above anybody else’s.

Neat story.


15 posted on 11/20/2009 7:38:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: All
Bittorrent client Download this and click on the pirate bay link. Then Click on the pirate bay link. Took less than 5 minutes to download the 61 meg.
16 posted on 11/20/2009 7:39:37 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: mmichaels1970

It’s not a hard story to tell; just a little long in the telling. Typical broadcast news won’t have 23 seconds out of the 23 minute half hour show to work this. Maybe Rush or Hannity will.


17 posted on 11/20/2009 7:40:19 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Schnucki

These guys are apparently not computer geeks.

Emails never go away. One should never send an email you wouldn’t be happy to have published on the front page of every newspaper.

Not that I’ve always followed this rule myself.


18 posted on 11/20/2009 7:41:16 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Just download the zip file from:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XD050VKY

Here it is as a link: FOI2009.zip

19 posted on 11/20/2009 7:42:10 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Schnucki

bttt


20 posted on 11/20/2009 7:42:18 AM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Spike Knotts

I’m hoping it will still be active when I get home from work in 7 hours.


21 posted on 11/20/2009 7:44:32 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Not just active, but 200+ seeds.


22 posted on 11/20/2009 7:46:54 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Spike Knotts

23 posted on 11/20/2009 7:47:11 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Spike Knotts
Have you looked through the files? I’ve spent about 30 minutes and let me tell...they’re freaking dynamite.

Yes. I've done the same, and I absolutely agree. I'm just very cynical of the scumbag commie press. To a point where I honestly suspect conspiracy on their part.
24 posted on 11/20/2009 7:47:16 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Schnucki; xcamel

Junk science ping


25 posted on 11/20/2009 7:47:48 AM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: InterceptPoint

No go. Company firewall.


26 posted on 11/20/2009 7:48:14 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Schnucki

What will Al Gore do? Give that prize back he got in Sweden?


27 posted on 11/20/2009 7:50:42 AM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Schnucki

Wots a megabite?


28 posted on 11/20/2009 7:50:49 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
No go. Company firewall.

But you can use BitTorrent?

29 posted on 11/20/2009 7:51:12 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Schnucki

The American media won’t even mention this.


30 posted on 11/20/2009 7:52:20 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Schnucki

ping


31 posted on 11/20/2009 7:52:31 AM PST by 4Speed
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The website is busy but there is absolutely nothing going on at ClimateAudit.com. Steve McIntyre must be in heaven reading this stuff. I can’t wait to see what he has to say once he has absorbed the data.


32 posted on 11/20/2009 7:53:36 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: mmichaels1970

E-mail Contact

Glenn Beck: me@glennbeck.com


33 posted on 11/20/2009 7:54:49 AM PST by maggief
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T


34 posted on 11/20/2009 7:55:17 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kleon

>Wots a megabite?

The British spelling of ‘Megabyte,’ I presume.


35 posted on 11/20/2009 7:55:29 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: InterceptPoint

No. I was just asking if the link is still active. I have Vuze at home so I’ll grab it there.

I’m actually presuming that all links to this file are going to be cratered by the time I get home.


36 posted on 11/20/2009 7:56:28 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Kleon
"Wots a megabite?"

It's like a smorgasbord, but much larger.

37 posted on 11/20/2009 7:56:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: InterceptPoint

My problem with their forecasts has always been the models. I think if the models (in source) are revealed, we’ll find that they are pretty simplistic in what is included and what is excluded....

hh


38 posted on 11/20/2009 7:57:19 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: Schnucki

Bump


39 posted on 11/20/2009 7:59:35 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Sherman Logan
The temptation is no doubt even greater when there is a religious level of belief, when they see the conflict not between accurate and inaccurate, but between Good and Evil.

The belief in man-caused global warming has become a religion. Scientific method doesn't matter.

40 posted on 11/20/2009 8:00:34 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: Schnucki
Ok, there are so many questions to ask, it's hard to even know where to begin.

How many of these scientists were involved with the UN IPCC report? Phil Jones and Michael Mann were authors, so they were in on it, I know it runs deeper than that.

What relationship did Al Gore have with these scientists and organizations? I bet a lot of them helped make An Inconvenient Truth.

How many polticians voted for cap n tax based on the IPCC report or data provided by one of these organizations or scientists?

41 posted on 11/20/2009 8:00:44 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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I’m actually presuming that all links to this file are going to be cratered by the time I get home.

Possibly. But uploading to sites like this is so easy these days that the files should be replicated all over the net and on usenet, probably within hours. But Vuze will work if it's fast enough.

42 posted on 11/20/2009 8:01:49 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Schnucki
From the document...


43 posted on 11/20/2009 8:01:58 AM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Well, they’ll have to knock me off the internet for me to stop seeding. So you’ll be able to get it from me at least.

As an aside, I’m amazed by how many people in Finland are downloading/seeding the torrent.


44 posted on 11/20/2009 8:02:48 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: OneWingedShark
>The British spelling of ‘Megabyte,’ I presume.

Well that's confusing. What do they call megabits then?

45 posted on 11/20/2009 8:03:43 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Dallas59

Yeah, I posted that on another thread a little bit ago. I also thought it was noteworthy. It is amazingly bad, isn’t it?

Good thing these professional scientists are so, erm, well, professional.


46 posted on 11/20/2009 8:05:01 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Kleon

Easy. Megabyts.


47 posted on 11/20/2009 8:05:53 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

But they had to save the planet from something....It’s money.


48 posted on 11/20/2009 8:06:17 AM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: hoosier hick

>I think if the models (in source) are revealed, we’ll find that they are pretty simplistic in what is included and what is excluded....

Check in:
FOI2009.ZIP\FOIA\documents\cru-code

Especially its idl\pro sub-directory.
{PS It might behoove you to brush up on your Prolog.}


49 posted on 11/20/2009 8:07:48 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“17. Use emotions and visuals Another classic marketing rule: changing behaviour by disseminating information doesn’t always work, but emotions and visuals usually do.”

That is why we saw so many pix and the accompanying sob stories of polar bears swimming in the Arctic. Oh the Huge Manatee and cuddly bears, too.

[So what if is is their nature to swim in the Arctic.]
50 posted on 11/20/2009 8:15:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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