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CRU Hack, time to hit back … hard (LIB MELTDOWN)
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Posted on 11/21/2009 11:26:20 PM PST by dila813

Aside: apparently what has been released is about 1/2 of the total copied from CRU. We do not know if what has been released is cherry picked and the remaining material fills in the blanks exhonorating everyone of any wrong doing, or if there is more to come. According to RealClimate, whatever is there, it will not be evidence of scientific malpractice such as tampering with data, and that’s good enough for me.

The frame Since seeing the emails we have been responding by:

pointing out that while some (and only a few) of them sound dubious, there’s no actual evidence of anything; attempting to point out that in every case there are also perfectly innocuous interpretations; putting these sorts of discussions in context*

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: cruhack; crybabies; globalwarming; kooks
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The news here is this is only 1/2 of the files, can't wait to get the rest!
1 posted on 11/21/2009 11:26:21 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

bttt


2 posted on 11/21/2009 11:28:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dila813
According to RealClimate, whatever is there, it will not be evidence of scientific malpractice such as tampering with data, and that’s good enough for me.

Ah, yes. Accepting unsubstantiated statements, on faith and faith alone. The other other "scientific method."

3 posted on 11/21/2009 11:29:06 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: dila813

I suspect that the guy holding this...who is probably an insider who was screwed over by the other insiders...is giving the guilty parties about a month to admit what they did in public. At some point, he might even leave a card for them to grasp what is about to come next.

My belief is that this guy wants them to all fess up and admit their reports and products are all bogus. If they do this...their entire credibility is gone. Then you have to wonder about the other research units...and their secure nature. I’m guessing...this guy has associates and they’ve been busy with all of these fake foundations.

2010 will be an interesting year...as these fake scientists are forced into the corner and their entire career is flushed down the toilet.


4 posted on 11/21/2009 11:30:46 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Landru; maggief

fyi


5 posted on 11/21/2009 11:33:27 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

While the Conservatives Realists Lick their Chops for More.

We want to get to the bottom of this, there are too many lives at stake.


6 posted on 11/21/2009 11:35:04 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
pointing out that while some (and only a few) of them sound dubious, there’s no actual evidence of anything; attempting to point out that in every case there are also perfectly innocuous interpretations; putting these sorts of discussions in context*

Huh???

Why can't these eggheads speak in plain simple language: "We've been caught, the cat is out of the bag, oh boy is Algore gonna be pissed off now"!

7 posted on 11/21/2009 11:35:16 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: pepsionice
2010 will be an interesting year...as these fake scientists are forced into the corner and their entire career is flushed down the toilet.

Let us 'hope' it is not limited to the scientists, but a career change for some US politicians who are trying to legislate this hoax upon US.

8 posted on 11/21/2009 11:35:20 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dila813; grey_whiskers; markomalley; scripter; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 11/21/2009 11:35:29 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: dila813
much sound and fury told by idiots, claims seem to be all innuendo and speculation

“The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I’ll delete the file rather than send to anyone.”

-- Professor Phil Jones, 02/02/05

Shyeah. Because that's how every credible, reputable scientist typically reacts to perfectly legal and straightforward FOIA requests for the data behind their claims, all right.

"All innuendo and speculation," he snivels.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


10 posted on 11/21/2009 11:38:21 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: dila813

The jig is up. Glowbull Warming/Climate Change is dead.


11 posted on 11/21/2009 11:41:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: pepsionice
2010 will be an interesting year...as these fake scientists are forced into the corner and their entire career is flushed down the toilet.

2010 is a month and a half away, Copenhagen is a couple weeks away. First things, first.

12 posted on 11/21/2009 11:45:20 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

I thought it was me that had a hard time reading this.


13 posted on 11/21/2009 11:50:09 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: dila813
They need to listen to the words of Richard Feynman:

The only way to have real success in science, the field I’m familiar with, is to describe the evidence very carefully without regard to the way you feel it should be. If you have a theory, you must try to explain what’s good and what’s bad about it equally. In science, you learn a kind of standard integrity and honesty.

AGW or not, these bastards at CRU have significantly damaged the integrity and respect that science as a whole once held. Thanks a lot, you bunch of lying fraudsters!

14 posted on 11/21/2009 11:52:42 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Pray for President Obama: Psalms 109:8)
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To: Just mythoughts; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Landru; maggief

Just go bury them on digg


15 posted on 11/21/2009 11:54:51 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
To those forces of darkness , evil, they should heed the warning by God's words that their schemes, scams, plans will be revealed and there is nothing they can do about.
It seems that the GOD of Israel is fulfilling his promise to bring to light or expose those things that are hidden....
I Corinthians 4:5

Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

II KINGS chapter 6: 8-13

8. Then the king of Syria warred against Israel, and took counsel with his servants, saying, In such and such a place shall be my camp.

9. And the man of God sent unto the king of Israel, saying, Beware that thou pass not such a place; for thither the Syrians are come down.

10. And the king of Israel sent to the place which the man of God told him and warned him of, and saved himself there, not once nor twice.

11. Therefore the heart of the king of Syria was sore troubled for this thing; and he called his servants, and said unto them, Will ye not shew me which of us is for the king of Israel?

12. And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.

13. And he said, Go and spy where he is, that I may send and fetch him. And it was told him, saying, Behold, he is in Dothan.

Matthew 2 verse 12;

12. And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.

Jeremiah 23 verse 23-24

23. Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?

24. Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.


To the Global Warming Hoax promoters ? to those in the liberal main fringe media, to those who are trying to hide the truth about Obama's records and birth certificate, to those who are planning evil things in government to warm " THE PEOPLE " .....


ALL YOUR PLANS ARE NOT DONE IN SECRET !!!


YOU CAN'T HIDE YOU EVIL PLANS, WORDS FROM A ALL SEEING AND ALL KNOW GOD !! THE GOD OF ISRAEL SEES YOU !!

YOU WILL BE EXPOSED !!!

THE GOD OF ISRAEL WILL PROTECT HIS PEOPLE !!
16 posted on 11/22/2009 12:01:24 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

They can justify anything for “the cause.” Lying, cheating, destroying evidence — it’s all good, if done for “the cause.”


17 posted on 11/22/2009 12:01:58 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Domangart; June K.
I thought it was me that had a hard time reading this.

In context a very melded theory would suffice, however here or maybe one can surmise that relative nonvolatile big words complete in theory but nevertheless lack sufficient data proving if or not if is so. There needs to be more study as to this appoint/disappoint process appealing for such reasoning, and must occur confidently quite soon - before the Earth burns up in a little ball of cinders screaming: "ALGORE, WHY HAVE YOUR FORSAKEN ME????"

obviously /sarc :)

18 posted on 11/22/2009 12:07:35 AM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: dila813

Oh no! On what other pressing matter will the RINOs “reach across the aisle, my friends” and sell us out now? What are Gingrich and McCain to do? Oh dear!


19 posted on 11/22/2009 12:10:44 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: dila813
We do not know if what has been released is cherry picked and the remaining material fills in the blanks exhonorating everyone of any wrong doing

Yeah, right, the rest of the files are notes reading "Ha Ha Ha, how about those gag files that fill up half of this computer memory, where we make it look like it's all a farce! We're awesome!"

20 posted on 11/22/2009 12:20:03 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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