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Capt. Kirk vs. John Galt: Who Should We Follow?
All American Blogger ^ | 11-24-09 | Duane Lester

Posted on 11/24/2009 12:48:52 PM PST by Bodhi1

In the new Star Trek, Cadet James Tiberius Kirk finds himself standing before the Academy's review board. During his third attempt at a computer simulation no one had ever passed, Kirk installed a subroutine in the simulator's programming which allowed him to win. He was accused of this by Spock, the creator of the simulation.conservative-kirk.jpg

Here's part of the exchange, starting with Kirk's justification for his actions:

Kirk: [to Spock] The test itself is a cheat, isn't it? I mean you program it to be unwinnable.
Spock: Your argument precludes the possibility of a no-win scenario.
Kirk: I don't believe in no-win scenarios.
(Source)

This shows a change in Kirk's belief system. Prior to this, Captain Christopher Pike told Kirk his dad didn't believe in no-win situations. Kirk replied, "Well, you see how that worked out for him." Kirk's father drove his ship into an enemy ship, but his sacrifice allowed others to live, including Kirk and his mother.

Pike replies, "I guess it depends on how you define "winning."

Captain Kirk then attacked his challenges head on, often risking his own life to achieve victory.

John Galt, the hero in Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged," looked at his own no-win scenario and took a different approach. With not only his company, but his country, rushing towards collectivism, he felt the total collapse of the nation was inevitable. So he quit. He went on strike.

And he took the best of the best with him. One by one he talked the heads of industry into disappearing, leaving the looters to search for another mine to strip.

It would be like Kirk leaving the Enterprise and taking Spock, McCoy and Scotty.

Galt felt what he was facing could not be stopped. So he chose to speed it along its path and pick up the pieces after it collapsed.

Kirk fights. Galt walks.

There are days I find myself wondering which is the appropriate role to take in today's America. I look across the Bridge to Dependence and see so many Americans already on the other side, calling for more to join them and wonder if I shouldn't just let them. Go Galt and get out of the way.

And then there are days where I feel more like Captain Kirk, wanting to confront the ideas of collectivism and Marxism and explain to people that that road leads to the destruction of the individual.

Is America too far gone? Are the Captain Kirks of the conservative and libertarian movement wasting their time? Is there still a chance to win this fight for liberty?

Again, it depends on how you define "winning." If you simply mean a return to Republican party domination, winning is possible. In fact, the more the Democrats do, the more probable it becomes.

However, Republicans in majority behave badly. Rep. Sam Graves, my Congressman, usually votes with a conservative mind. But when the opportunity came for him to take a stand for fiscal conservatism, he chose to vote for $200 billion in looting.

I can't see that as winning. Winning has to be a return to the limited government Madison and Jefferson wanted. That goal is far more difficult. It will take decades to educate a majority of Americans about conservative values, if we can get them to care about the state of the nation more than the state of "Dancing with the Stars." It's a very difficult goal, but is it no-win?

Galt or Kirk? Where are we and what should we do? Tell me what you think in the comments.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Government; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: captainkirk; johngalt; startrek
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1 posted on 11/24/2009 12:48:54 PM PST by Bodhi1
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To: Bodhi1
Kirk installed a subroutine in the simulator's programming which allowed him to win

Kirk was a meteorologist for the CRU?

2 posted on 11/24/2009 12:50:19 PM PST by agere_contra
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To: Bodhi1

Beam me up, Scotty. I’m tired of this s*it.


3 posted on 11/24/2009 12:52:59 PM PST by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: agere_contra
Kirk was a meteorologist for the CRU?

Now that's funny, right there!

4 posted on 11/24/2009 12:53:31 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: agere_contra

Or an Acorn organizer! :)


5 posted on 11/24/2009 12:54:24 PM PST by Pessimist (u)
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To: agere_contra

That was damned funny. Kudos, sir.


6 posted on 11/24/2009 12:54:47 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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7 posted on 11/24/2009 12:55:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bodhi1
Gault’s way is out. He had a place to run to. There are no more places like that so Kirk and we conservatives have to take back our “place”. (the whole USA) And like our opposition (liberals, Marxist, communist,Democrats)and we have to do it any damn way we can. What ever it takes. I hope not with arms but it may come to that in the future.
8 posted on 11/24/2009 12:56:20 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Bodhi1
Galt: "I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine."

Kirk: "KAHN!!!!!!!"

9 posted on 11/24/2009 12:58:12 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Bodhi1

I miss the Shat.....


10 posted on 11/24/2009 12:59:31 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Mmmm, Mmmm, Mmmm.......)
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To: Bodhi1

Consider someone who actually lived: George Washington. He backed away from many conflicts to save his Army to fight again on another day on his own terms. When the time was right, he hit back - HARD and completely by surprise.

You don’t have to choose Kirk or Galt. You can be a Washington.


11 posted on 11/24/2009 1:01:15 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Bodhi1

It doesn’t matter who you follow.....just stay well away from the fifth person in the five-man landing party!!


12 posted on 11/24/2009 1:02:43 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: Bodhi1
And then there are days where I feel more like Captain Kirk, wanting to confront the ideas of collectivism and Marxism and explain to people that that road leads to the destruction of the individual.

You mean like Ayn Rand did? While confronting the evil of collectivism she justified the removal of the sanction of the victim. Kirk and Galt, combined.

13 posted on 11/24/2009 1:03:14 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: hoe_cake
Yea, wake me up and tell me it's only a dream from the alternate universe episode Mirror, Mirror.


14 posted on 11/24/2009 1:03:41 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Bodhi1

The writer neglects to add that the “rebooted Star Trek” is an insane failure of a drama in which cadets are given command of capital ships, the timeline is twisted for dramatic effect (i.e. lazy writing), and idiotic special effects substitute for the real physical universe. “Star Trek” is what many have become: observers who want to be taken care of despite reality. And as many of us know, reality is something that is strictly enforced, sooner or later.


15 posted on 11/24/2009 1:03:47 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Pessimist
Good point! I forgot about NY-23

KIRK: "I don't believe in a no-win Election"

16 posted on 11/24/2009 1:04:00 PM PST by agere_contra
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To: Bodhi1
Any body knows you can't follow Galt!!!!! He was a fictional character!

Now Kirk....he's real.....or.....ummmm.....er.....will be real!

17 posted on 11/24/2009 1:04:16 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.)
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To: dfwgator
Shouldn't that be Bill O’Reilly in that picture with that caption?
18 posted on 11/24/2009 1:04:23 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: fish hawk

“Jim, the Klingons are dying.” - McCoy
“Let them die.” - James Tiberius Kirk


19 posted on 11/24/2009 1:10:45 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bodhi1

How many hot, green, alien chicks did John Galt get it on with?


20 posted on 11/24/2009 1:11:05 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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