Skip to comments.Another source, Kenyan Historian states Obama is a Kenyan citizen
Posted on 11/27/2009 12:02:11 PM PST by syc1959
Here is an interesting article and audio.
Otunnu on Luo Tribe Member Being Elected President, Oct. 25, 2008
Olara Otunnu (Harvard Law, 1978) relating the remark of Kenyan historian Ali Mazrui on the oddity that a member of Kenyas Luo tribe (Barack Obama, a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from birth) may become president of the United States before a Luo tribe member becomes president of Kenya. Town Hall Forum: An Examination of Race, Age, Gender & Religion in the 2008 Election, Harvard Law School Reunions, Oct. 25, 2008, 9:15 a.m. (Austin Hall, 1st Floor, West), at 60:17 mark.
Notice that it is a Kenyan historian that states Barack Obama is a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from BIRTH!
US Natural Born citizen = US Citizen + US Allegiance + US Jurisdiction
Obama is a British subject, allegiance to the British Crown, under the British Nationality Act of 1948
Remember this was done BEFORE the election, but after numerous requests during the primary for Barack Hussein Obama to PROVE his eligibility per the United States Constitution. After the election the Kenyan Parliment stated the following;
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT
Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obamas win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.
Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request! *****[note - "having a Kenyan ruling the USA"!]
Read the rest and more here: http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/
(Excerpt) Read more at nobarack08.wordpress.com ...
Two posts above yours, there are three videos of evidence, and I have seen a few more out there that have confirmed his Kenyan birth with sworn affidavits!!!
Now how many more videos do you need for this to get into your shrinking doggy head???
BTW do you get an orgasm every time you show up here to dispute and make distraction of the NBC issue???
Can you produce a video from the second swearing in incidents???
What are the House and Senate Republicans waiting for?
What are Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas and Alito waiting for?
What those Great American talk show hosts waiting for?
An honest man would **HONORED** to prove in every way possible and to anyone ( even a nut) that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be president. He would do this promptly!
So...You still have NOT answered the following two questions:
**What do Obamas actions concerning his natural born status have to say about his honor and honest?
**What does Obamas actions have to say about the honor and honesty of the people defending him?
Excellent post! Going in the ‘FReeper Keeper’ file!
That was my point.
Whether or not truemandogz is a BC troll, or not, all he has done is to ask for proof, not an, "I said so".
| > Could you please point me to the place in the
> Constitution or any legislation that states that a
> person must have two US citizen parents in order to
> be a natural born citizen?
>> Well, considering that Jeannette Rankin was elected to
>> And Article I does not seem to specify that a member
Well, um, yeah ... as you're likely reading off a DailyKos talking points memo, I can see where you are misinformed. There IS no substitution for actually READING the darn thing!
Here, let me help you by showing you the applicable portions of the source document the U.S. Constitution:
Article I, Section 2, Clause 2:
Article I, Section 3, Clause 3:
Article II, Section 1, Clause 1:
Could you please point to a place in the Constitution that allows WOMEN to serve as the President, VP, Representatives or Senators?
Heck ... I'll even take an applicable Federal court case opinion that "re-defines" the word HE as a Constitutional gender-neutral pronoun.
bwahahahahahaha ... amazxing how funny Logic can be don’tchaknow.
> bwahahahahahaha ... amazxing how funny Logic can be dontchaknow.
Only the screwed-up logic of an Obot ;)
OBVIOUSLY women can serve in these offices. It's understood.
But I cite this to demonstrate how Liberals are oh-so-willing to pick and choose what they want out of the Constitution to suit their own political ends.
It's similar to the Liberal interpretation that Universal Health Care is mandated in the Preamble via the words, “promote the general Welfare.”
It's not until nearly 220 years after the Constitution was written, that a charismatic, well-financed, Constitutional lawyer parses the intention of the Framers as to the meaning of “Natural Born Citizen” for his own political gain enter Obama from stage Left.
As we KNOW, only Obama's mother was a US Citizen - his father was NOT:
Vattel's "The Law of Nations" was THE reference used by the Framers to define,
There REALLY is no debate as to HOW the Framers and citizens alive at the time many of whom were immigrants and/or dual-citizens themselves defined "natural-born Citizen" or WHO they turned to define "natural-born Citizen" ...
Once again, wowed by your knowledge and perfection in your posts. You are an amazing Freeper. Seriously, you are.
| > Once again, wowed by your knowledge and perfection in
> your posts. You are an amazing Freeper. Seriously, you
Well, thank you. YOU rock too!
All in a good day's work!
And it's refreshing to see that Phase 3 of Operation Chaos
Rasmussen: Number of Democrats in US Falls to Four Year Low...
UK climate scientist to temporarily step down
Either way — it sucks to be them. LOL!
And when the Eligibility suits work their way up the food chain for proper Judicial review, it will be the icing on the cake — and a death nail to Liberalism for many, many years to come!
Once again, the writings of 19th century Swiss philosophers are not governing documents.
And interestingly, the English version of Vattel that you cite was not published until 1797, ten years after out Constitution was ratified.
“The Law of Nations, or, principles of the law of nature, applied to the conduct and affairs of nations and sovereigns. Translated from the French by Joseph Chitty, Esq. Based on the 1797 edition, republished by T. & J. W. Johnson, law booksellers, Philadelphia (1853), together with additional notes and references by Edward D. Ingraham, Esq. Ingraham’s annotations have been omitted.”
Perhaps, our Framers had a Time Machine!
Either way it sucks to be them. LOL!
Indeed it does and many libs do not like the health care plan either. It sucks, nobody can honestly say it doesn’t.
Thanks for posting a link to “The Obama Deception” a Film by Alex Jones.
Now, lets review some of Alex Jones other works:
Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove
The 9/11 Chronicles: Part 1, Truth Rising
TerrorStorm: A History of Government-Sponsored Terrorism — Second Edition (2007)
Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement (2007)
Martial Law 9-11: Rise of the Police State (2005)
Police State 3: Total Enslavement (2003)
911: The Road to Tyranny (2002)
American Dictators: Documenting the Staged Election of 2004 by Kevin Booth and Alex Jones (2004) (Video)
Loose Change (2005, 2006, 2007, 2009)
So, you are linking a film by Alex Jones, the same Alex Jones who has made films about the staging of the 2004 Presidential Election (Bush stole the 2004 Election) and various films including “Loose Change” a film where Alex Jones claims that elements high in the US government (Bush & Cheney) staged the Terrorist Attacks of 9/11?
I did not realize that there were Alex Jones Followers here on Free Republic.
And yes, this would be the same Alex Jones who has produced all those “9/11 Was an Inside Job” bumper stickers.
Now that's power. LOL
Hey, I'm with ya. LOL!!
a fundamental and inborn natural love of country (and my thought: an inborn feeling of protectiveness toward it)
"We have been obliged to anticipation of the definition of the term native country, because our subject led us to treat of the love of our country a virtue so excellent and so necessary in a state."
Thence the paragraph following describes how natural love of country is imbued in civil society by virtue of its citizens being born to that land.
We just don't truly yet know to which country 0's love and protectiveness is extended, if any. It certainly hasn't been naturally exhibited toward the USA.
And here we suffer the repercussions of that very doubtful inborn love, allegiance and protectiveness of country.
He roots passionately for the Chicago White Sox .. pathetic that his country and her citizens don't elicit that same passion, protectiveness and devotion.
As far as what version of Vattel the framers would have access to, here it is:
Translating the French text: "les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parents citoyens"
To English, gives this: "the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens"
Your post, suggesting that everyone shun trumandogz is the most intelligent one on this thread.
I challenged her to provide sources for her boast that Cheney, Chief Justice Roberts and all of the members of the House have certified Obama as eligible -- that's 437 sources, with links.
She won't. She can't.
It is my one and only reply to that idiot.
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