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Another source, Kenyan Historian states Obama is a Kenyan citizen
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/ ^ | Nov 15,2009 | syc1959

Posted on 11/27/2009 12:02:11 PM PST by syc1959

Here is an interesting article and audio.

http://www.archive.org/details/OtunnuOnLuoTribeMemberBeingElectedPresidentOct.252008

Otunnu on Luo Tribe Member Being Elected President, Oct. 25, 2008

Olara Otunnu (Harvard Law, 1978) relating the remark of Kenyan historian Ali Mazrui on the oddity that a member of Kenya’s Luo tribe (Barack Obama, a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from birth) may become president of the United States before a Luo tribe member becomes president of Kenya. “Town Hall Forum: An Examination of Race, Age, Gender & Religion in the 2008 Election,” Harvard Law School Reunions, Oct. 25, 2008, 9:15 a.m. (Austin Hall, 1st Floor, West), at 60:17 mark.

Notice that it is a Kenyan historian that states Barack Obama is a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from BIRTH!

US Natural Born citizen = US Citizen + US Allegiance + US Jurisdiction

Obama is a British subject, allegiance to the British Crown, under the British Nationality Act of 1948

Remember this was done BEFORE the election, but after numerous requests during the primary for Barack Hussein Obama to PROVE his eligibility per the United States Constitution. After the election the Kenyan Parliment stated the following;

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT

Wednesday, 5th November, 2008

The House met at 9.00 a.m.

Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obama’s win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.

Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request! *****[note - "having a Kenyan ruling the USA"!]

Read the rest and more here: http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/

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Excellent posts (as always) by BP2:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395528/posts?page=175#175

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395528/posts?page=187#187

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395528/posts?page=189#189

201 posted on 12/01/2009 3:23:01 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Non-Sequitur

There are three classes of citizenship:

Naturalized — Arnold — born in Austria — Austrian parents — citizenship as a result of process.

Native Born — Obama — One American parent and one from somewhere else -— born in the USA — anybody born on US soil qualifies.

Natural Born — George Bush — both citizen parents — born in the USA.

The Obama Campaign, on its website, identified Obama as a “native born” citizen.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/FightTheSmearsCOLBHTML.htm

It’s right there. It’s been there all along. They know he’s ineligible.

This situation was created when both major political parties ran ineligible candidates, who were not “natural born” citizens. Obama was ineligible because his father was a foreigner (Jus sanguinis), and McCain was ineligible because he was born in a foreign country (Jus soli). The U. S Constitution, applicable case law and historical and legal precedent have been ignored for political expediency.

We are now witnessing the biggest political cover-up in American history.

You Obots can continue with you onanism till the cows come home.

It won’t change the fact that Obama is a usurper — history will out — end of story.


202 posted on 12/01/2009 3:33:39 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: MilspecRob
An honest man will not summit to the demands of every nut case in America.

You realize you have just slandered a whole bunch of FReepers with your arrogant comments.

Was that your goal?

203 posted on 12/01/2009 3:36:59 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith
I have asked these questions of the Obama defender **many** timea. Not even one, at any time, has ever answered these questions. **Never**!
204 posted on 12/01/2009 4:10:30 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Beckwith
When ever there is a DOJ profession and **paid** Obama defender, it is best to **ignore** every one of their arguments.

The real point is:

An honest man would be **HONORED** to promptly and full prove in every way that his is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president. He would do this for **anyone** even the nuts.

What do Obama’s action have to say about his honor and honesty?

What does Obama’s action say about those who defend him?

205 posted on 12/01/2009 4:19:17 PM PST by wintertime
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To: STARWISE

At some point, we must purge the Liberals from our midst. This social cancer has spread far enough. It is not just the”government.” It is those who elect it...


206 posted on 12/01/2009 7:10:49 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: El Sordo
Maybe he felt it increased his credibility in his community and lent him some street cred that he did not have as a mulatto.

"Street cred"????

What street cred?

He is half African, at most, not American 'descended from slaves'--or even freemen black, not "inner city" black, not "ghetto" black, not 'back of the bus Jim-Crow black, not even poor-dirt-road/floor-rural-field-hand black. He HAS NO 'American black experience', even as a birthright--he even claims to have gone to a school where children from 'mixed marriages' were generally accepted.

Where is the 'downtroddenness' in all that? Columbia? Harvard?

Street cred? Don't make me laugh. He's a fraud all the way around, capitalizing on suntan while selling America a bill of goods.

207 posted on 12/01/2009 7:43:21 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Precisely why he would need the 'street cred'.

So consider, in a liberation theology church claims of African birth would go a long ways.

Yet there is no evidence that BHO ever made such a claim over the period of a decade and change when it would have been to his great advantage to do so.

Other uses for street cred:


208 posted on 12/01/2009 9:13:51 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: trumandogz
Since you always show up and you are a "master" of taking everything apart,..misleading... I may say, so please be our guest here to take this movie apart. Tell us, instead of LOL, what in this movie is NOT fitting in with your usurper in the W.H.???

I have never been a fan of Alex Jones, but in this movie, however, I see a lot of similarities to what and WHO (?) with a puppet is shredding our country apart!!!

209 posted on 12/01/2009 10:37:46 PM PST by danamco
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To: wintertime; Beckwith
It does NOT matter to them!

They are like my 90-year mother-in-law, when I challenge her with the usurper's eligibility issue!!

She says emphatically, "I don't care, because I voted for him"!!!

210 posted on 12/01/2009 11:01:15 PM PST by danamco
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To: trumandogz

Since you’ve really seen all these productions, you must be a real fan of Alex Jones!!!


211 posted on 12/01/2009 11:05:11 PM PST by danamco
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To: Beckwith
There are three classes of citizenship:

Except that the Constitution only identifies two: natural born and naturalized. And I'm not aware of any law that defines three classes of citizenship.

You Obots can continue with you onanism till the cows come home.

And you Birthers can continue to make this stuff up as you go along. It provides a great deal of amusement to the rest of us.

212 posted on 12/02/2009 4:06:55 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: syc1959

Anyone who thinks the SCOTUS will vote for anything that could potentially overturn Sotomayor’s appointment is delusional.


213 posted on 12/02/2009 6:12:22 AM PST by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Non-Sequitur
Except that the Constitution only identifies two: natural born and naturalized. And I'm not aware of any law that defines three classes of citizenship.

This is the most ridiculous post of hundreds of ridiculous posts you've made.

Ever heard of the 14th Amendment, genius? Now go back to your mother's basement.

214 posted on 12/02/2009 10:31:07 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: El Sordo
So consider, in a liberation theology church claims of African birth would go a long ways.

But in a liberation theology church, isn't the primary hook anger over having been 'owned' (even though there are no living former slaves)? Isn't that the basis for the desire to get back at 'the white man' even though a vast number of caucasians here have no ancestral ties to slavery in the Americas, and their ancestors had not arrived until after slavery here was no longer practiced?

Direct African heritage would mean that the person was descended from either those who avoided capture or sold captives and others to the slave traders.

Of course, logic does not apply in the blame game, hatred is focused on a specific target regardless.

Yet there is no evidence that BHO ever made such a claim over the period of a decade and change when it would have been to his great advantage to do so.

If BHO was courting the American black vote on the basis of alleged past and present evils (some true, some not) he would have little to gain by asserting that he was not 'one of the masses'. As a child of apparent means, one who enjoyed educational opportunities unavailable to a multitude of other applicants but arguably available to him because of his appearance, his only 'cred' is derived from having 'overcome' the adversity alleged by the liberation theologists (not saying there is/was no adversity, but all who wish to achieve anything in life must overcome adversity at some point). To plant that in the collective psyche of that portion of the electorate (and that of guilty feeling liberals) he cannot claim to have been African born and free of the liberation theologist's claimed adversities of the African-American population.

To do so would separate him from that segment of the electorate, not bind him to it.

Instead, the myth must be that of someone who has endured not a life of relative priveledge, but one who has experienced hardship and triumphed.

It is just that, a myth.

But that is to be expected from someone who is all image and no substance, undocumented, and created in the illusionist's realm of media derived perception by an adoring group of syncophants.

I'm just pointing out where the man and the myth don't flange up.

215 posted on 12/02/2009 10:45:24 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Beckwith
This is the most ridiculous post of hundreds of ridiculous posts you've made.

I'm trying to get them down to the level of your posts. I realize I've still got a long way to go but I figure practice makes perfect.

Ever heard of the 14th Amendment, genius? Now go back to your mother's basement.

Yes I have. I've even read it, all of it. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." So where does that differentiate citizen from natural-born citizen? Where does any part of the Constitution define the difference? Where does any law define the difference? Can you answer that?

216 posted on 12/02/2009 12:31:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco

I live in Austin and have known of Alex Jones for at least 15 years. He at one time had a cable access show where he would rant about security cameras and government conspiracies.

Everything from Ruby Ridge and Waco and then he moved on to “9/11 Was an Inside Job” and in the process made a lot of cash.

And now he is ranting about Obama and how Obama, like Bush was not actually elected, but rather placed in power by a “shadow government.”

So, if you believe that Bush and Cheney were responsible for the Attacks of 9/11 and that a “shadow government,” placed both Bush and Obama in power, you may also stand with Alex in his belief that Obama was born in Kenya and his mother smuggled Baby Obama into the US in an effort to assure that he son would be a natural born citizen so that he could be placed into the presidency by the “shadow government”.


217 posted on 12/02/2009 12:42:18 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Beckwith

We know that Dick Cheney stood before the Congress and confirmed the vote of the Electoral College and we know that not one single member of the Congress objected to Obama’s eligibility, Chief Justice Roberts delivered the Oath of Office to Obama and we know that not one single member of the House of Representatives went on the Record by voting against a Resolution the recognized Hawaii as Obama’s place of birth.

So, there it is, Cheney, Roberts and the entirety of the House recognizing the Obama is a natural born citizen.


218 posted on 12/02/2009 12:49:33 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: rxsid
To English, gives this: "the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens"

Forgive me, for my French is not all that great, as I am only laughed at when I try to order a meal in a Paris bistro, but where in the translation is the term "Natural Born Citizen?"

And if the Framers based the Constitution on the French writings of Vattel, how is it they invented the term "Natural Born Citizen?"

219 posted on 12/02/2009 12:54:31 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Translating the French title (of this particular section): "Des citoyens et naturels"

To English, gives this: "Citizens and Naturals."

Couple that with...

Translating the French text: "les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parents citoyens"

To English, gives this: "the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens"

We can see that this particular text is defining the "natural" or naturals. Natural what? He's talking about citizens here and making a differentiation between "citizens" and "natural(s)" citizens who are those born in country to two citizen parents.

Of course, he also describes "Citizens" which is the other group that's part of the section title.

220 posted on 12/02/2009 2:03:58 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: wintertime; trumandogz
So...You still have NOT answered the following two questions:

I believe trumandogz did have an answer, albeit it was somewhat indirect. Let me answer it a bit more directly.

**What do Obama’s actions concerning his natural born status have to say about his honor and honest?

He's neither an honest man nor an honorable man. Unfortunately, however, neither honor nor honesty are necessary to be eligible for the presidency.

Simply pointing out that he is in fact eligible to be president in no way implies that he's a good president. I don't see why birthers have such difficulty in grasping this very simple point.

**What does Obama’s actions have to say about the honor and honesty of the people defending him?

It depends on what, specifically, they are defending. Obama is a horrible president who would destroy the country if he had his way, but not everything he's done in his life is blameworthy.

For example, he did nothing wrong by traveling to Pakistan in the 1980's. Likewise, it wasn't his decision to register as a Muslim when he attended school in Indonesia, nor was it his decision to go to Indonesia in the first place, so it makes no sense to attack him for these things. Yet birthers do it nonetheless.

Furthermore, birthers make up things to attack him on, such as the charge he registered as a foreign student at Occidental, or the charge that he's spent millions of dollars on defending birthers lawsuits. These are complete fabrications, and yet birthers continue to repeat them as if they were gospel truth.

I would say that people who viscerally oppose Obama's politics, but nonetheless defend him from such nonsensical attacks, are behaving quite honestly and honorably.

The same cannot be said for birthers who attack him for spurious reasons.

In point of fact, people like you do the conservative movement great harm in that you are distracting the public from the valid arguments against Obama.

221 posted on 12/02/2009 2:38:56 PM PST by curiosity
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To: trumandogz

You changed your statement. But that’s what liberals do.


222 posted on 12/02/2009 2:45:07 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: curiosity
He's neither an honest man nor an honorable man.

Bingo! Obama is neither honest or honorable.

The remainder of your comment is irrelevant to the question.

Furthermore, birthers make up things to attack him on, such as the charge he registered as a foreign student at Occidental, or the charge that he's spent millions of dollars on defending birthers lawsuits. These are complete fabrications, and yet birthers continue to repeat them as if they were gospel truth.

Whoa!...We certainly know a lot more about your honor and honesty in defending Obama!

When did **you** get to personally examine Obama's Occidental records? Please provide the links where others have **personally** and fully examined these records and stated the citizenship Obama listed on his application.

223 posted on 12/02/2009 2:56:08 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Non-Sequitur

So, you contend that there are only two classifications of citizen — natural born and naturalized.

By your definition, anchor babies are natural born citizens and are eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

I’ll take a pound of what you’re smokin’.


224 posted on 12/02/2009 3:00:45 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: wintertime
Bingo! Obama is neither honest or honorable.

You act as if this is some sort of profound revelation.

I don't get who you would be so amazed by a fellow Freeper stating something that is obvious to any conservative.

The remainder of your comment is irrelevant to the question.

Your question is irrelevant to his eligiblity.

Whoa!...We certainly know a lot more about your honor and honesty in defending Obama!

I don't defend him. Knocking down kooky conspiracy theories about a person isn't the same thing as a defending him.

When did **you** get to personally examine Obama's Occidental records? Please provide the links where others have **personally** and fully examined these records and stated the citizenship Obama listed on his application.

The burden of proof lies on those who make an assertion, not on those who are skeptical of it.

As of yet, birthers haven't provided a single shred of evidence that even makes the foreign student story pluasible, let alone proves it. That's a pretty good indication someone just made it up.

225 posted on 12/02/2009 3:08:47 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Beckwith
So, you contend that there are only two classifications of citizen — natural born and naturalized.

Yes. Those are the only two identified by the Constitution.

By your definition, anchor babies are natural born citizens and are eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

Alas, yes.

I’ll take a pound of what you’re smokin’.

I honestly don't think you need any more of anything, given the bizarre nature of your posts. But by all means quote the clause of the Constitution or the law that defines natural-born citizenship in the manner you think it means.

226 posted on 12/02/2009 3:14:52 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: curiosity
Furthermore, birthers make up things to attack him on, such as the charge he registered as a foreign student at Occidental, or the charge that he's spent millions of dollars on defending birthers lawsuits. These are complete fabrications, and yet birthers continue to repeat them as if they were gospel truth.
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Again....What does this say about your honesty and honor?

When did you get to see Obama’s Occidental records? Please post where others have.

An honest man would be HONORED for fully and promptly prove in every way possible that he was eligible to be president. He would do this even for a nut.

What does Obama’s action say about his honesty and honor? Plenty! As you have so stated.

What does it say about **your** honor and honesty? Well? Your above comment also says plenty!

227 posted on 12/02/2009 3:17:43 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Oh, I just realized, I can prove that the foreign student story at Occidental was made it. It originated with an April Fool's joke email with a fake AP story. Snopes does a nice job laying it out:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

The fact that birthers would use a rumor originating as an April fools joke as the basis for some of their claims tells me quite a lot about how unhinged these jokers really are.

228 posted on 12/02/2009 3:20:29 PM PST by curiosity
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To: danamco

Since your mentor Emanuel, the ballet dancer, have taught you the skills of side-stepping, I just ask you again to answering the following:

“And, also since you always show up and you are a “master” of taking everything apart,..misleading... I may say, so please be our guest here to take this movie apart. Tell us, instead of LOL, what in this movie is NOT fitting in with your usurper in the W.H.”???


229 posted on 12/02/2009 3:27:13 PM PST by danamco
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To: chris37
I am hoping that The Kenyan will continue to screw up and that sooner rather than later even his lib. buddies will be looking for a way to remove him from office.

Failing that, my money is on the Mossad getting to the real COLB, as this guy is proving to be no friend of Israel.

Let Right Be Done

230 posted on 12/02/2009 3:29:37 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: wintertime
Again....What does this say about your honesty and honor?

It shows I'm willing to debunk fabricated charges against a man I loath. I'll let others decide whether they think that's honorable or not.

When did you get to see Obama’s Occidental records?

I haven't, but I'm not the one making claims about what's in them.

You don't seem to understand the concept of "burden of proof."

While you're at it, can you name a single scholarship or fellowship that was available to Occidental undergraduates who were Indonesian citizens but not US citizens?

I'll give you a hint: there weren't any.

An honest man would be HONORED for fully and promptly prove in every way possible that he was eligible to be president. He would do this even for a nut.

Yes, we all know he's not an honest or honorable man. Now what?

What does it say about **your** honor and honesty? Well? Your above comment also says plenty!

Yes, I think it says a lot, and I'm qutie happy to have my honor and honesty compared to yours any day.

231 posted on 12/02/2009 3:30:50 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

The truth doesn’t matter. It’s the severity of the charge.


232 posted on 12/02/2009 3:31:02 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: trumandogz; BP2
And if the Framers based the Constitution on the French writings of Vattel, how is it they invented the term "Natural Born Citizen?"

Are you dyslexia?

Or are you only using one side of your brain??

All the facts are all spelled out clearly in post #189 for you and pals curiosity and N-S to see, what is that you don't understand???

233 posted on 12/02/2009 3:56:10 PM PST by danamco
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To: Red Steel
BUT the preponderance of evidence that says he was born in Kenya

No it doesn't. In fact, there's not a shred of evidence to suggest he was born anywhere other than Hawaii.

234 posted on 12/02/2009 4:03:05 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
The fact that birthers would use a rumor originating as an April fools joke as the basis for some of their claims tells me quite a lot about how unhinged these jokers really are.

You are using Saul Alinsky tactics here to scew the truth, because we FReepers were the very first to claim it a fake by immediately pointing out the date!!!

235 posted on 12/02/2009 4:04:11 PM PST by danamco
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Do you actually believe that Obama isn't directing them to make sure the BC stays hidden?

Obama had Perkins and Cole file a couple routine motions to dismiss. That doesn't cost $1.5 million dollars, or whatever the latest made-up birther figure happens to be.

A genuine Hawaiian birth certificate with a doctor's signature would make all of the law suits go away.

LOL. If you really believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.

236 posted on 12/02/2009 4:08:52 PM PST by curiosity
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To: danamco
because we FReepers were the very first to claim it a fake by immediately pointing out the date!!!

Okay, so upon what do you base your belief that he attended Occidental as a foreign student?

237 posted on 12/02/2009 4:10:31 PM PST by curiosity
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To: danamco
No, they are not spelled out clearly, as the writings that have been cited did not exist in the English language at the time of the ratification of the Constitution.

Moreover, the direct translation of the text in question does not include the term “natural born citizen.”

Finally, our laws are based on the Constitution, not writings of Swiss philosophers.

238 posted on 12/02/2009 4:19:15 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Churchillspirit

It would be such wonderful irony if Israel was responsible for outing the muslim fraud who calls himself Obama.


239 posted on 12/02/2009 4:40:49 PM PST by chris37
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To: curiosity
No it doesn't. In fact, there's not a shred of evidence to suggest he was born anywhere other than Hawaii.

Here's some evidence for you:

- The Kenyan grandma admitting that she witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya before she remembered the official line.

- The many African newspapers proclaiming Obama is Kenyan born.

- The many statements by Kenyan Parliament member on the 5th of November 2008. One member in particular saying Obama is "the son of the soil" of Kenyan and the Obama "originates from Kenya"

- The Kenyan ambassador in an unguarded moment all but admitted to Obama was from Kenya.

- Lucas Smith's Obama Kenyan birth certificate has not been refuted with satisfaction as to be a forgery; As a matter of fact, Smith has done a good job at countering the claims.

- The Kenyan government has passed law to build a shrine (cost $1.5 million) to Barack Obama in his hometown of Kogelo, Kenya. A Kenyan shrine to a foreigner? LoL!

What do you got as evidence?

- A Hawaiian newspaper birth announcement that does not say to were Obama was born.

- A .jpg image purported to be Obama's Hawaiian Certification Of Live Birth (COLB) that has not stood up to scrutiny as genuine - it's a forgery. If the document was real Obama would have submitted it to a court BECAUSE it would be his best evidence bordering on proof. Logical conclusion: it's a forgery and all other excuses to why Obama has not submitted it as evidence are lame and stupid.

240 posted on 12/02/2009 4:48:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Here's some evidence for you:

You've got nothing.

- The Kenyan grandma admitting that she witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya before she remembered the official line.

She admitted no such thing.

- The many African newspapers proclaiming Obama is Kenyan born.

Gee. An African newspaper might get its facts wrong (and there's only a couple, not "many."). Who'd a thunk it?

- The many statements by Kenyan Parliament member on the 5th of November 2008. One member in particular saying Obama is "the son of the soil" of Kenyan and the Obama "originates from Kenya"

All that means is that he has Kenyan ancestry. Duh.

- The Kenyan ambassador in an unguarded moment all but admitted to Obama was from Kenya.

And how, exactly, would the Kenyan abmassador have any knowledge of the circumstances of his birth beyond what is already in the public domain? Are you asserting he whitnessed it?

- Lucas Smith's Obama Kenyan birth certificate has not been refuted with satisfaction as to be a forgery; As a matter of fact, Smith has done a good job at countering the claims.

LOL. You actually believe the thing is genuine? If that's the case, then there's no hope for you.

- The Kenyan government has passed law to build a shrine (cost $1.5 million) to Barack Obama in his hometown of Kogelo, Kenya. A Kenyan shrine to a foreigner? LoL!

They Kenyans are proud that a man of Kenyan ancestry is president of the USA, just like the Irish were proud that man of Irish ancestry was elected president in 1960.

This is evidence of Kenyan birth how?

What do you got as evidence?

For starters, there's the official statement from the Hawaii Department of Public Health that his vital records say he was born in Hawaii.

There's the complete lack of any evidence he was born anywhere else.

The complete lack of evidence that his Mom ever set foot in Kenya. There would be immigration records, both in the US and Kenya, at her ports of entry.

Not to mention the sheer implausiblity of an American college coed, with practically no money, traveling to Kenya in 1961, on a greuling journey half way around the world lasting a minimum of 2 days, while at least 6 months preganant, just so she could give birth to her son under third world conditions.

And you birthers wonder why every sane person thinks you're nuts.

241 posted on 12/02/2009 5:40:29 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
And you birthers wonder why every sane person thinks you're nuts.

Sane people think you Obots are the one who are nuts.

242 posted on 12/02/2009 5:43:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: danamco

And the First Kenyan BC that the birthers bought

And the Lucas Smith BC that the birthers bought

And that Obama “Proudly Touted His Kenyan Birth”

And the lie the it was against the law for Americans to travel to Pakistan

Those birthers seem to be quite gullible.


243 posted on 12/02/2009 6:10:42 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Believing Obama is telling the truth on anything are quite gullible.


244 posted on 12/02/2009 6:18:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Beckwith

No, I did not change my statement which was that Dick Cheney, John Roberts, and the entirety of the House has all gone on the recored confirming that Obama is indeed constitutionally qualified to be president.

How about we compare a list of who is and who is not a Birther?

Not A Birther

Chief Justice John Roberts
Dick Cheney
Ann Coulter
Michele Bachmann
Sarah Palin

A Birther

Phil “George W. Bush is Responsible for the Attacks of 9/11” Berg
Joseph “Pterodactyls are flying over our Heads” Farah
Alex “9/11 Was an Inside Job” Jones
Leo “Black Helicopters are flying over my House” Donofrio


245 posted on 12/02/2009 6:23:09 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Red Steel

I never said that Obama does not lie however, simply because he is dishonest does not mean that he is not constitutionally qualified to hold the office.

Now you can go back to pushing the story that it was illegal for Americans to Travel to Pakistan.


246 posted on 12/02/2009 6:26:00 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Now you can go back to pushing the story that it was illegal for Americans to Travel to Pakistan.

I never have.

247 posted on 12/02/2009 6:27:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If that is the case, I apologize as I had intended and should have said
“you all.....”


248 posted on 12/02/2009 6:38:11 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: syc1959

He’s Kenyan??? Well! Nobody’s mentioned THIS before!

Shouldn’t we ask him??


249 posted on 12/02/2009 6:42:19 PM PST by bannie
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To: curiosity

You, Mr. Saul Alinsky, where have you ever seen me saying that???


250 posted on 12/02/2009 11:09:56 PM PST by danamco
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