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Another source, Kenyan Historian states Obama is a Kenyan citizen
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/ ^ | Nov 15,2009 | syc1959

Posted on 11/27/2009 12:02:11 PM PST by syc1959

Here is an interesting article and audio.

http://www.archive.org/details/OtunnuOnLuoTribeMemberBeingElectedPresidentOct.252008

Otunnu on Luo Tribe Member Being Elected President, Oct. 25, 2008

Olara Otunnu (Harvard Law, 1978) relating the remark of Kenyan historian Ali Mazrui on the oddity that a member of Kenya’s Luo tribe (Barack Obama, a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from birth) may become president of the United States before a Luo tribe member becomes president of Kenya. “Town Hall Forum: An Examination of Race, Age, Gender & Religion in the 2008 Election,” Harvard Law School Reunions, Oct. 25, 2008, 9:15 a.m. (Austin Hall, 1st Floor, West), at 60:17 mark.

Notice that it is a Kenyan historian that states Barack Obama is a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from BIRTH!

US Natural Born citizen = US Citizen + US Allegiance + US Jurisdiction

Obama is a British subject, allegiance to the British Crown, under the British Nationality Act of 1948

Remember this was done BEFORE the election, but after numerous requests during the primary for Barack Hussein Obama to PROVE his eligibility per the United States Constitution. After the election the Kenyan Parliment stated the following;

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT

Wednesday, 5th November, 2008

The House met at 9.00 a.m.

Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obama’s win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.

Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request! *****[note - "having a Kenyan ruling the USA"!]

Read the rest and more here: http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/

(Excerpt) Read more at nobarack08.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barack; bcrepository; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; illegal; kenyanborn; obama; sourcetitlenoturl; undocumented
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To: trumandogz

You obamanoids never tired of trying to twist the facts to suit the defense of your affirmative action messiah don’tchaknow. Your question is absurd on the fce of it since none of the people you named were born in Kenya or had a Kenyan father. The citizenship is a natal issue, fool. But that was a good try, obamanoid. Your butty NS tried to shuffle past the natal point with his idiotic comment above, regarding losing what he had at birth (and that in itself is an admission that the affirmative action lair-in-chief could not possibly be a natural born American because of his split nationality at birth, LOL).


61 posted on 11/29/2009 7:19:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: trumandogz

video tape of Obama “proudly touting his Kenyan birth.
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Not proudly toting in my opinion. Just confirming what Keye’s said. Key’s said you were born in Kenya, Obongo smirks and flippantly replies, “So what? I’m running for the Senate, not President, so it’s irrelevant”


62 posted on 11/29/2009 7:59:55 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: trumandogz

First there was the Maya BC that was altered to be Barack’s BC. Second, there was the fact floated that Obama travelled to Pakistan when it was illegal for Americans to travel to Pakistan.
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It was discouraged. I never said it was “illegal”
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Third, Fake Kenyan BC # 1 that many ‘birthers’ fell for.

Fourth, Fake Kenyan BC # 2 that Lucas Smith produced.
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Smith BC has not been proved to be a fake. I’m highly suspicious of it due to his past record. If SMith passed a lie detector test and Kenya confirmed it was legit, then I would believe it was real. Not until.


63 posted on 11/29/2009 8:02:52 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: trumandogz

the tape that allegedly was recored when Obama was debating Alan Keyes has not surfaced, even though Keyes has filed lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility.
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Maybe Keye’s doesn’t have it. It should be in very capable hands, with the best attorneys, not with Keye’s so he can blow it again.


64 posted on 11/29/2009 8:04:20 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: wintertime
An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove in every way possible that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president and Commander and Chief.

An honest man will not summit to the demands of every nut case in America.

65 posted on 11/29/2009 8:09:55 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: trumandogz

As for my theory, I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii and while being constitutionally qualified for the office, is not necessarily intellectually qualified. However, he is smart enough to keep this issue out there, in order to divert attention from other matters concerning his administration.
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Theory, based on what? That’s all you have is a theory. There is plenty of evidence, concrete and a ton or circumstantial evidence that points to another birthplace. I won’t disagree that Kenya might be a distraction. Look North. Watch for some newspapers to surface and watch for that Keye’s tape. You will not find them with Keye’s, WND, Orly etc. *wink* They will be found in the hands of the people like Breitbart, Rush, Hannity and very competent attorneys. Smart people keep their mouths shut, build their evidence and case, then say BAM! GOTCHA! Better to release it in 2010 or closer to 2012. The bombshell to make sure he isn’t re-elected.
The Dems control the house and sentate. The chance of getting him out is far less than making sure he isn’t re-elected.


66 posted on 11/29/2009 8:10:14 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: MilspecRob
An honest man will not summit to the demands of every nut case in America.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Even to the nuts.

An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove to anyone who asked that he was indeed a natural born citizen and eligible to be president...even the NUTS!

And...I see you have tapped danced around answering the following:

**So?...What do Obama’s actions say about his honor and honesty? Hm?

**What do Obama’s actions say about the honor and honesty of those who defend him?

67 posted on 11/29/2009 8:22:06 AM PST by wintertime
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To: MilspecRob

An honest man will not summit to the demands of every nut case in America.
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What is nutty about asking a president to prove he is a natural born citizen?

An honest man running for president or in the office of president would be **HONORED** to prove in every possible way that he was a natural born citizen! He would be HONORED to do this for ANYONE...even the nuts.


68 posted on 11/29/2009 8:25:10 AM PST by wintertime
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To: trumandogz; mojitojoe; Las Vegas Ron; BP2; Fred Nerks; 444Flyer; MHGinTN; LucyT; ...
Not sure why you pinged me, since I've never pinged you, and it's obvious you haven't been paying attention anyway.

No one on FR is manufacturing evidence; news released over newswires is reported and discussed on this website. In fact, one statement of manufactured news is this LIE written by you*.:

"have had a tendency of late to manufacture evidence"
-trumandogz

*LIAR.

69 posted on 11/29/2009 6:19:07 PM PST by LucyT
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To: trumandogz; LucyT

Dogz? You are such a boor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw&eurl=http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2008/11/01/barack-nate-dhalani.aspx?ref=rss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWcD5OHm08&feature=related


70 posted on 11/29/2009 6:43:07 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: LucyT; Blood of Tyrants
"have had a tendency of late to manufacture evidence"

-trumandogz

A person on this very thread wrote that "Barack Obama proudly touted his Kenyan birth."

And for some odd reason, that poster, nor anyone else is able to produce documentation in the form of an audio tape or video tape of Obama every "proudly touting his Kenyan birth."

Now why is that?

Why is it that there is a need for some people to manufacture evidence to suggest Obama was born in Kenya?

71 posted on 11/29/2009 10:00:12 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: mojitojoe
There is plenty of evidence, concrete and a ton or circumstantial evidence that points to another birthplace.

Actually, there is no concrete evidence pointing to a Kenyan birth and the only circumstantial evidence has been manufactured or manipulated.

Watch for some newspapers to surface and watch for that Keye’s tape.

If no one has produced a debate tape of Obama saying he was born in Kenya, the tape does not exist.

BTW-Whenever candidates for any office are taking part in a debate, each campaign staff has a self produced audio tape and video tape of the debate. In addition, the producers of the debate as well as the networks and or channels and radio stations the debate airs keeps a tape of the debate.

So, the tape is not out there, as if it did exist, it would have surfaced long ago.

72 posted on 11/29/2009 10:14:41 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: mojitojoe
It was discouraged. I never said it was “illegal”

I never stated that you said it was illegal for Americans to travel to Pakistan in 1981. However, there have been quite a few people here and those entrenched in the birther movement who said that it was illegal for Americans to travel to Pakistan.

And while there may have been a State Department Pakistan "Travel Advisory" at the time, a travel advisory does not prohibit American citizens from traveling to those countries.

In fact, I was born in and lived in a country that has had a State Department travel advisory in place for my entire life and have lived in, worked in of visited around 15-20 countries that have a State Department travel advisory.

And yes, both Kenyan Birch Certificates that have been "touted" by the birthers have proved to be fakes.

73 posted on 11/29/2009 10:29:22 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: wintertime

**Verification of Obama’s relationship with the British citizen and Kenyan father that he claims
**Obama’s original long form birth certificate.
**College records
**Adoption records
**Repatriation records
**Selective Service registration
**Passport records
**College admission records and transcripts

I would have no problem with all future presidential candidates releasing all the above mentioned records as well as Full Medical Records.

However, passport records will not reveal all that much since, as everyone knows that the U.S. State Department does not keep records of the nations an American citizen travels.

And it will only take one state to require future presidential candidates to submit; birth certificates, parental DNA verification, college transcripts and full medical records in order to be qualified for that state’s primary or general election ballot.


74 posted on 11/29/2009 11:00:42 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

As usual, you avoided the question. Do you have even a single link where Cheney or Roberts had anything to say?


75 posted on 11/30/2009 5:20:00 AM PST by wintertime
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To: trumandogz
And AGAIN, I see that you will NOT answer the following:

An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove to anyone who asked that he was indeed a natural born citizen and eligible to be president...even the NUTS!

And...I see you have tapped danced around answering the following:

**So?...What do Obama’s actions say about his honor and honesty? Hm?

**What do Obama’s actions say about the honor and honesty of those who defend him?

76 posted on 11/30/2009 5:22:41 AM PST by wintertime
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To: i_dont_chat

There is no one in the Columbia transcript office that has access to this stuff? You mean everyone in there has the moral code not to release such devastating information for the millions it would bring them?

This stuff sounds like the conspiracy stuff I hear on Coast to Coast AM. There are too many people with access to this kind of information to keep a lid on all of them.

Just my opinion, but isnt the issue to keep him off the ballot next time by enhancing the state requirements to get someone on the ballot?


78 posted on 11/30/2009 5:28:36 AM PST by Vermont Lt (My wife reads my posts. In case the FBI shows up, we will have cookies.)
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To: trumandogz; LucyT; MHGinTN; BP2; Candor7

And yes, both Kenyan Birch Certificates that have been “touted” by the birthers have proved to be fakes.
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Including that laughable one posted on Fact Check right? Can you send me the link where the others were examined by experts and proved to be fake? I must have missed that. I’m not saying they are authentic, I just want to see where they were irrefutably debunked by experts, a court, etc.


79 posted on 11/30/2009 8:27:14 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: trumandogz

If no one has produced a debate tape of Obama saying he was born in Kenya, the tape does not exist.
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Okey dokey! *snicker*


80 posted on 11/30/2009 8:28:14 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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