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To: sickoflibs
I certainly hope my cynical sense is right and Health reform fails. Things are not rosy on that front for them and they know it.

The question is what will be deemed "failure" WRT healthcare. I think the odds are against them passing anything major for healthcare, bailouts, immigration, or crap and trade, at least until 2011. In fact, I believe crap and trade will not even pass in the senate next year.

33 posted on 11/28/2009 9:28:13 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
I think the odds are against them passing anything major for...immigration...at least until 2011.

I don't care if they actually pass anything, but I do care that they bring it up, so McCain can be forced into a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation right before the Arizona GOP primary.

34 posted on 11/28/2009 10:27:51 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“In fact, I believe crap and trade will not even pass in the senate next year. “

I agree, and not just because of the exposure of international “warmer” fraud. Moderate Dems can hide for several years with Obamacare, but not with crap n trade. The negative effects will be quick, and many will lose their jobs.
Energy rates will skyrocket too.


37 posted on 11/29/2009 4:40:28 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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