Skip to comments.Barack Obama Sighting, Hawaii 1980
Posted on 11/30/2009 7:43:24 PM PST by syc1959
A friend of mine sent me this story of his time in the Marine Corps. Read through to the end, its a shocker.
What strikes me most is what he said as to where he grew up: Indonesia. He told me he wanted to be President of the US someday. I remember lightly smiling and commenting that maybe by the time he gets to be 40 or so, America will be ready for a Black man to be President and I wished him luck. We spoke of the racial tensions I saw at home while growing up and I asked him if he ever saw that overseas or since he returned back to Hawaii. I dont remember his answer, but we spoke more of his time overseas and his thoughts on life and philosophy of government. He made some strange comments to me, it was obvious he never set foot for any time in the continental United States and I told him he better realize that he is making judgments about the United States when he himself never actually lived there. I told him, Hawaii aint the United States!
He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, I was born there. I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay.
(Excerpt) Read more at nygoe.wordpress.com ...
He is the direct opposite to Michael Jackson!!!
Yes, I am serious.
I procured the birth certificate on February 19, 2009 at Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
In September of this year (2009) I submitted Barack’s Kenyan birth certificate to a federal court in the Central District of California.
welcome back Inspector. How is the search about who was Chief Administrator at CPGH on the day of your date stamp
I am curious about something else:
1 You state you travelled from Congo-Kinshasa to Nariobi and then to Mombasa. Can you explain us the land route you took ? Can you tell us what borders you have crossed ?
2 You state you went to Congo for some water agency. Can you be more specific about this ? Was this a Kenyan, Congolese or Us agency ? Can you please provede a link to this agency ? The Agency you mentioned I have found nowhere.
3 Since you have provided us with pictures from Santo Domingo to describe African surroundings, could you also provide us with some photos from Mombasa (to describe Carribean surroundings) , with possibly some landmark in view ?
4 Oh. BTW. Othigo was CA admin on Feb 19th 2009.
Another one I dont get is “Obama is really (secretly) a muslim”. I never understood the point of saying this. Do muslims support women’s abortion rights?
I followed the Clinton presidency closely, had a subscription to American Spectator and followed all the Clinton personal stories. Seemed like fun then. Then we got the failed impeachment and GWB. This time around, with the first AA president, I see only negatives.
I believe you need to be aware that Lucas Smith has now convinced us all that his document is authentic.
He has found
the University in Ghent (Belgium) has 2 Administrators and
a Military Hospital in India delivered birth certificates without listing a birthplace.
Maganga was Chief Administrator on Feb 19th 2009
As further evidence I would like to add that
Parmesan cheese is definitely an ingredient to pesto sauce
I applaud Lucas for his lengthy and scholarly research into an issue he was skeptical about and which I have repeatedly asked him to explore. His conclusions are simply astonishing. Chief Inspector Smith
Dusty - RaceBannon IS the student who wrote this piece years ago... Read reply #30.
The hell he did
Your recollection that Obama claimed his birthplace as being Mombasa, Kenya corroborates the Lucas Smith - 'Mombasa Coast Province General Hospital birth certificate', which I believe to be authentic.
When liberals luck out in "jumping to conclusions" they by pass wasted time and money. But when they're wrong - and that's often - they waste billions of dollars - - and important time that could have been spent on real problems.
I've known liberals who didn't understand why conservatives were challenging global warming - in their minds it was "SETTLED" PERIOD. Why waste time on it?
Conservatives on the other hand are information gathers. They look into this, they look into that, they pick up this rock or examine that anomaly. And we let them. Because our critics and doubters are valuable to us. We don't want to shut them down or force them into a mental straight jacket.
So if you want my personal opinion on some of the stuff that's being looked at on the edges - things still in flux - I'll tell you. I believe global warming (caused by man) is a hoax. The science is bad. The people pushing it are benefiting from the fraud personally. It's the equivalent of tobacco "scientists" telling us smoking doesn't cause cancer... when the research is paid for by the tobacco company. It's a nightmare. The people who pushed this fraud while falsifying records should go to jail. The people who knew about the lies and benefited should go to jail too.
On Obama being born outside the United States. It's possible. I'm still looking at what the information gatherers are coming up with. RaceBannon isn't a hundred percent sure - but he's thinks it's a good possibility he spoke with Obama - and that Obama told him he was born in Mombasa. Race has NO REASON whatsoever to make this up - or to push it. He's credible. It's an interesting dot to add to the others. I haven't formed a strong position on this issue - but I'm definitely open to more information. .
On Obama being influenced by Communists when he was young. I think it's very possible. I lived in Hyde Park as a young person ( back in the time of Alinsky) and I had friends whose parents were members of the Communist Party. It was that kind of neighborhood. My gut tells me Obama has heard the marxist line - from the marxist viewpoint. It could mean he understands them and is forwarned to their idiocy - or it could mean that he's bought into the spiel. I don't know...
I also believe he and Bill Ayers were friends - and that it's possible Ayers did much of the writing for Dreams. Writing's a skill developed over years - it's a talent and a craft. If Ayers didn't write the book, some other ghost writer did - IMHO it's Ayers's influenced at minimum but I'm still open to new information...
Oh Obama being a Muslim - I doubt it. At best he's been close to people who are Muslim and understands their thinking and ways. Just as Jeb Bush often pronounces the name of Latino countries and cities with a mild "spanish accent" so Obama does with middle eastern countries and cities. It's disconcerting on some levels. He did it last night in his speech - many words including "Pakistan"... In Muslim cultures truth is shared with family members - only - obviously Obama was seen as "family" by his father's people - and that might give the illusion of him being Muslim, but I don't believe he is, and it would take massive proof to convince me otherwise.
Again, sickoflibs we encourage the information gatherers... If they come up with nothing, we're still better off for their effort. What's leaned from an experiment that fails is as important as what's learned from one that succeeds.
Thank you for relating this .. God bless and protect you, Race. May you be blessed with even more enhanced memories of this meeting that bring you the confidence of certainty.
Probably would've been looking like this then
That’s sad ... I somehow missed that and that he came here.
Please come back, Tom Fife.
I have been around here long enough to believe you without hesitation.
Are you still as cute as you were in that picture? :-)
Raymond Liddy- 2007
Tom Liddy - 2003
my face is that cute
there is just more of my belly to be cute, though...(sigh)
Sell any kidneys lately?
Good morning, Oswego County: 01/16/2008
By Nicholas Lisi / The Post-Standard
January 16, 2008, 10:45AM
By Catie O’Toole
Nearly four years has passed since a stranger gave Jim Wilson Jr. a kidney and saved his life.
When he died Monday, his kidney was still functioning.
Kathleen Wilson said her son thought he was coming down with the flu and had been lying down most of the day.
“He didn’t feel good,” she said Tuesday.
Things turned for the worse.
Jim Wilson Sr. went to call 911 and their son went into cardiac arrest, Kathleen Wilson said.
James J. Wilson was 25.
“He lived every minute of every day,” his father said.
Jim Jr. was born with one kidney. It kept him going for the first 18 years of his life. He rarely missed school, and even felt fine the day a school nurse took his blood pressure and realized something was wrong. Go see a doctor, she told him. Right away.
Over three years, while his family searched for a donor, Jim Jr.’s condition worsened to the point he needed daily dialysis.
Jim Jr. was put on the national kidney transplant list in November 2001, five months after doctors diagnosed him with end stage renal disease.
Today, there are 147 people waiting for either a kidney or a kidney and pancreas transplant at University Hospital in Syracuse, said Laura Squadrito, director of programs at the National Kidney Foundation of Central New York.
The Wilsons, who live in Oswego, did what they could to speed up the process. A family friend started a Web site and Jim Wilson Sr. hung several hundred posters in stores, banks and other places, asking someone to donate a kidney to save his son’s life.
In late 2002, a man from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, sent an e-mail to the family. The man, who called himself Lucas Smith, said he was 23 years old and had emigrated from Russia five years earlier. He had seen the Web site and, Smith said, he wanted to help.
The Wilsons stopped searching for a donor. Smith passed all of the medical, physical and psychological tests. They thought he was going to save their son’s life.
Then, on May 3, 2003, Smith sent Jim Wilson Sr. an e-mail saying he wanted to be compensated for donating his kidney.
Wilson said they would pay his airfare, but because it was illegal to receive money for an organ donation, they wouldn’t give him any other cash.
Five months after holding out a lifeline, Lucas Smith disappeared.
Jim Wilson Sr. called the Cedar Rapids police.
On June 13, 2003, Diane Langton e-mailed the Wilsons. She had read about what happened and wanted to help.
Cedar Rapids is Langton’s hometown. She and her husband were born and raised there, and it pained her to have the city associated with the Wilsons’ heartache.
She was healthy, her blood type matched Jim Jr.’s, and she, too, had a son the same age as Jim Jr. “(I) would certainly wish that someone would volunteer to help save his life if necessary,” she wrote the family.
In a four-hour surgery March 16, 2004, doctors at University Hospital removed Langton’s left kidney and placed it in Jim’s body. The surgery was a success.
The Wilsons called Langton an angel.
Langton, who now has five grandchildren, said she always felt this is something God wanted done.
“It’s very hard to think of a young man like that attached to a machine every day. He needs to get out and live. He needs to do that, and if I can help do that, I’m more than happy to do it,” Langton said in 2004.
She feels the same way today.
“I wouldn’t have changed anything,” Langton said Tuesday.
After the surgery, Jim Jr. was able to stay out late for the first time in his adult life since he no longer needed to be attached to a dialysis machine for eight hours every night. He could eat his favorite foods again. And he had more energy.
He graduated from Cayuga Community College in 2005 and got a job as a custodian for the Oswego City School District. Jim Jr. was honorary chairman of the first Kidney Walk in Central New York in 2004, shortly after his surgery.
His father became chairman of the Oswego Kidney Walk when it began in 2007. This year’s October walk in Oswego will be dedicated to Jim Jr.’s memory, Squadrito said.
Jim Jr. knew he was “one of the lucky ones” to receive a kidney transplant.
As he prepared to go to the 2006 National Kidney Foundation U.S. Transplant Games in Louisville, Ky., Jim Jr. said, “This gift does not happen very often.”
More than 97,000 people nationwide are awaiting organ transplants and more than 4,000 new patients are added to the waiting list each month, according to the National Kidney Foundation.
Because of the lack of donors in the United States, 4,151 kidney patients died in 2006 while waiting for an organ transplant. Every day, 18 people die waiting for a transplant of a vital organ, such as a heart, liver, kidney, pancreas, lung or bone marrow, the foundation reported.
Jim Jr. donated his tissue and eyes, his mother said.
Sue Burns, a kidney transplant recipient and team manager of the local Transplant Games’ “Team Central New York,” said she was shocked by Jim Jr.’s sudden death.
“It’s a really sad day,” she said.
When Jim Jr. competed in the 2006 National Kidney Foundation U.S. Transplant Games, he was reunited with Langton.
“We watched him play basketball. He was very competitive and had a great outside shot,” Langton said. “It was fun watching him.”
Burns said she and Jim Jr. were planning to golf at this year’s Transplant Games in Pittsburgh.
“All I can see is Jim’s face with that big smile. That grin is ear to ear. And he had that little twinkle in his eye,” Burns said. “He was just full of life. He will be really, really missed.”
Catie O’Toole can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org or 592-7140.
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Anything to add?
I heard the grandmother talk about Obama being born in Kenya. But there was a translator and it came out it was translated wrong. Of course! I will see if I can find it. It was either Corsi or on underground net.
My, my, my...
RB- you seem a trustworthy fellow- besides - I alaways instinctively trust fellow New Englanders ;) (even though I’ve been away for years- I’m a native Cape Codder)
...the country prefers fiction to facts. I’m willing to bet this is a one term president and that AFTER he’s out of office- the truth will come out.
You are so right and thanks for trying to set these doubters straight.
Wiki’s “facts” have been questionable since they came on the scene.
I wonder if we can even last until 2012 in
the face of such a purposeful takedown of
the greatest nation on earth, from stem to
I don’t know about the rest of the story but I don’t see any conclusions that can be drawn from his uniform or hair. It appears that he is a corporal or sergeant and the uniform appears to be the same one I regularly wore during the early 70s I served with plenty of Marines who wore their hair at that length and the cut appears to be within regulations. I saw more people who looked like that in their uniforms who were assigned to an air wing unit or a logistics support unit than those assigned to a line unit but nothing out of the norm that I can see.
Please see your private reply.
RE :”Conservatives on the other hand are information gathers. They look into this, they look into that, they pick up this rock or examine that anomaly. And we let them. Because our critics and doubters are valuable to us. We don’t want to shut them down or force them into a mental straight jacket.”
Like I said before, we also dont want a conservative Dan Rather memo moment. Nor is it helpful to have signs at protests that personally attack Obama. That is just ammunition for the democrats in characterizing us all as nuts(although at this point, this dem strategy is not helping them anymore either, we got a real dem meltdown here.)
I personally dont care where Obama was born short real clear proof he knew he was violating the law or constitution. And most birth-certificaters arguments is “Prove Obama was...” . He doesnt have to prove that stuff now, he is president. Dems tried the national guard stuff on Bush, and it backfired.
Sounds very plausible to me. Thanks for sharing the info. Hopefully writing down your experience will jog other memories. Keep us posted.
RE :”Again, sickoflibs we encourage the information gatherers... If they come up with nothing, we’re still better off for their effort. What’s leaned from an experiment that fails is as important as what’s learned from one that succeeds”
This is not true with a huge number of ‘conservatives’. I have many witnesses here how tons of times freepers have shut down a valid argument with ‘Those are democrat talking points’. It’s frustrating because as most of the country develops an valid (or partially valid) opinion, and many freepers are trained by talk radio to be exactly exactly like liberals, If it conflicts with a belief, it must be tuned out. This is how so many republicans thought we would win 2006+2008.
The difference was the docs trying to prove Bush did bad stuff were forged, and the so-called doc “proving” 0bama was born on HI is forged.
You’re nothing but an 0bama suckup.
Trained by talk radio?
Where do you get your talking points, anyway?
I beg to disagree. A few months ago a liberal I know was making up some protest signs - so they would look homemade. But, in fact the words came down from "on high" and no - absolutely NO input, zip, nada, zero, none - happened at the local level.
Liberals want to look like they're all "about the people" but they aren't. Liberals hire their "protesters" - - union goons and apolitical young people who "look good" but are not allowed to give an interview at a protest. Or have a viewpoint. Or express an opinion to a reporter. They have strict "talking points" and people who deliver them..
We don't do that. Go to a tea party and you'll see. The press is looking for someone to "talk nuts" but they always get stuck with sincere American citizens talking from their heart about valid concerns. I suspect dems hire young people so the press ( a press begging to be fooled ) can babble on about how the "young" are backing dems. New York Times columnists and people like Chris Matthews fall for this every time - old former hippies stuck in the 60's - (which was half a century ago...)
So yeah, people at tea parties write some great things on their signs and they write some weird stuff on their signs, but it's THE PEOPLE expressing themselves about their concerns. It's wonderful. And it's messy. Freedom always is... Conservatives like that. Dems don't.
It's NOT messy for dems - because they're afraid of the people.
Dems do dirty tricks with signs - - ACORN had "Don't tread on me" signs made up and they were distributing them at the Washington DC tea party. The idea was to discredit the citizens protesting - try to make them look radical. It backfired. Now everyone's OK with the "Don't tread on Me" signs. Which is good.
My guess is that if you see a really offensive sign at a tea party, there's a good chance it was made by a liberal. And a liberal who's being paid to make that offensive sign . They want us to conform to the lies they've made up about us.
As we get stronger, we'll start outing those dem shills - just like we've caught them making fake calls to talk radio We know their tricks. We know they cheat.
GOPJ - Thanks. Race contacted me directly via FReepmail.
1980 was not 2001. Things change. Even Marines. When I get a haircut, I get it pretty much the same as I did in 1983, when I was a USAFR Captain. My hair was no longer, nor shorter, than the active duty guys' hair at the time, but it was and is longer than that of the Army officers I now see on a daily basis.
I do let mine get longer than I did back then, but when I first get it cut it's about the same as a new haircut then. Wasn't nearly so hard to get my Korean lady barber just outside the gate to do it the way I wanted, as it was to get the "no military within two counties" barbers to do it that way in 1983. :)
Remember this is "Zero", no history, no background except what he wants us to see. And we are to like it!
Being in college somewhere is not quite the same as actually living there. You know it's not permanent, and you tend to hang with your like minded buddies. In his case, Muslim buddies at Occidental. This is especially true as a freshman, which is what he was during the '79-'80 school year.
But grandma was still in Hawaii, and his mother visited there, so he could very well have been back there in 1980, probably more than once.
Yes he does, but so do a great percentage of "blacks" in the US.
Compared to my college acquaintance from Nigeria, even barry's "cousin" Odinga looks a bit on the mullato side.
Because he had said that he wanted to be?
RE :”Where do you get your talking points, anyway?”
Not talk radio, not anymore
Fake calls to ideological talk radio was hardly a problem. What bothers me is when libs flood the CSPAN republican and independent lines and say things like “I am a republican but will vote democrat because republicans oppose health care reform”. I aways think, “Why cant republicans fight like that?”
I know, you have lectured me before about that. I don't agree. I was posting exactly a year ago that we should fight covertly, and enjoy it. Work up their base to oppose Health care unless it has STRONG public option and the right to a free abortion. This is why I watch them so closely.
I know liberal positions so well I could argue that side better than most liberals. Lots of us can. We swim in a liberal sea.
You doubt me?
I don't know how many conservative professors you had, but I had ZERO. Or how many conservatives newspapers you read - I read ZERO. I subscribe to four newspapers - only the Wall Street Journal has a few conservative pages - the op-ed section - and that's it. All the other pages in all the other papers are written or chosen by liberals. To the best of my knowledge, none of the local newscasters are conservative.
In the last twenty years, I've never met a teacher - grade school, high school etc who wasn't a liberal.
We know the liberal side.
We swim and live and breath and drown in a liberal sea. It's in our movies, the Sunday cartoons, most books, in the PC riddled military of Fort Hood. It's everywhere.
So, when those ideas are presented ONCE again, we get impatient. Not just because we've heard those ideas, but because we've heard them a million times. And we know many are based on lies. Like Global warming. Can you name a new idea dems have had in the last 40 years? Really - just one?
Would you be willing to write out an affidavit of your account of the meeting between Barack Obama and you in Hawaii 1980?
My attorney and I are composing litigation now for an action in federal court that will be filed soon. Would you be willing to write an affidavit and allow us to include it in our litigation?
As stated before, I have procured Barack Obama II’s Coast Province General Hospital (1961 British Protectorate of Kenya) birth certificate in Mombasa Kenya. I have a certified copy with embossed seal and 2009 Hospital Admin stamp and signature.
I look forward to hearing from you.
I am not talking about liberal ideas. I am talking about where republicans are wrong and ‘conservative’ talk radio defends the wrong ideas as a religious belief, and the listeners automatically assume as told that those contrary opinions must be shut down (and they dont want them to be true). This is not a problem now when democrats are in charge, it is only really a problem when republicans are in charge. Here's a few I have come up with that setup the talk radio firing quads:
1) Your tax cut did not pay for itself, sorry, anymore than free health care will pay for itself, or the stimulus tax credit and tax rebate checks will pay for themselves
2) The post Sept 11 ‘Bush’ recovery (as sold by talk radio)was a fraud
, and led to the crash
3) Bush promoted CRA risky policies, was not the fighting hero against them, funded ACORN too
4) If Bush had promoted invading and rebuilding Iraq as a national priority as he did, but also opposed his own and others expensive deficit domestic spending programs as not affordable, Kerry would have been president. But talk radio claims this would have been winning political strategy. This is not promoting what Bush did, it is pointing out a major logical flaw.
Liberals will shoot bullets at republicans in power for everything that goes wrong, but a few of those bullets are bound to hit real targets given republicans in power long enough. But many ‘conservatives’ are trained to tune it all out, shut it all down, and wake up surprised that two elections were lost.
Thanks for being a patriot, speaking boldly without fear.
Our country needs more people like you standing up and being heard.
amazing...just simply amazing...u r one twisted... :)
It’s a beautiful day on Cape Cawd today....In the 60’s
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