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Barack Obama Sighting, Hawaii 1980
Gathering of Eagles ^ | Nov 17, 2009 | GOE NY

Posted on 11/30/2009 7:43:24 PM PST by syc1959

A friend of mine sent me this story of his time in the Marine Corps. Read through to the end, it’s a shocker.

What strikes me most is what he said as to where he grew up: Indonesia. He told me he wanted to be President of the US someday. I remember lightly smiling and commenting that maybe by the time he gets to be 40 or so, America will be ready for a Black man to be President and I wished him luck. We spoke of the racial tensions I saw at home while growing up and I asked him if he ever saw that overseas or since he returned back to Hawaii. I don’t remember his answer, but we spoke more of his time overseas and his thoughts on life and philosophy of government. He made some strange comments to me, it was obvious he never set foot for any time in the continental United States and I told him he better realize that he is making judgments about the United States when he himself never actually lived there. I told him, “Hawaii aint the United States!”

He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there”. I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1980; birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; hawaii; kenya; mombasa; mulatto; obama; obroma; stuffwarsmadeof
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To: InspectorSmith

The Stepgranma’s interview was done by McRae. He continuosly asked her: “are you happy, that your nephew born in Kenya, is President ?”. Yes she said. End of tape. Once the full version of the tape was released it became clear she repeatedly said he was born in Hawaii. Both the short and the long version of this tape can be found on the net. Lucas is new to birthism and so it is understandable he is not aware. STUDY THE HISTORY OF BIRTHISM LUCAS !
News about Jennifer Othigo ?


251 posted on 12/03/2009 12:37:25 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: RaceBannon
Lying-inelligible-Commie-Kenyan-bastard-will-get-booted-eventually ping.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

252 posted on 12/03/2009 12:57:30 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: RaceBannon

Not sure if you saw this article.

ADMISSION MADE TO MARINE, TESTIMONY PUBLISHED ON-LINE

by John Charlton

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/

(Dec. 3, 2009) — The stunning admission was made to a member of the U.S. Marine Corps, in a chance meeting in the vicinity of Kalakaua Blvd., one evening in early August of 1980.

The now, former Marine is a highly respected member of the Free-Republic online-community, and he has published the account of his personal meeting with the then Barry Soetero online at the Gathering of the Eagles Blog. After the divorce of Barry’s mother from his adopted father, Lolo Soetero, he began using the name “Barack Hussein Obama,” by which he is knows the world over, today. At the Free Republic, the ex-Marine goes by the name Race Bannon.


253 posted on 12/03/2009 1:28:38 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: GregNH

Awwwww...Indian Summer, eh?

Lovely!


254 posted on 12/03/2009 2:56:44 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: RaceBannon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa


255 posted on 12/03/2009 4:49:33 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: RaceBannon

Free the Mombassa birth certificate ...


256 posted on 12/03/2009 4:51:24 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: syc1959

obumpa


257 posted on 12/03/2009 8:29:33 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: stormer; GregoTX

Just to show you how big my brass balls are I posted the revised version today.

http://nygoe.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/barack-obama-sighting-hawaii-1980-revised/

I do take offense when anyone doubts anything I write or post on the NY Gathering of Eagles website. Unlike you folks I actually do my homework and I don’t appreciate Keyboard Korporals’ inane comments.

That being said I’ll drop the matter.

Dan Maloney
NY State Coordinator
Gathering of Eagles


258 posted on 12/03/2009 8:36:57 PM PST by DannNY (Fighting the Insurgency at Home)
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To: DannNY

Thanks for the ping on the update. I know why you pinged me, but for the record I revised my statement in #131.


259 posted on 12/03/2009 9:20:11 PM PST by GregoTX (When people find they can vote themselves money it will herald the end of the republic. Ben Franklin)
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To: GregoTX

In #131 you revised your reply as it refers to Race Bannon, not to the Gathering of Eagles.

If you have no idea who we are or what we do then you should go back and look at coverage of 3/17/07 and numerous events which followed.

We are the folks actually out on the streets in constant contact with the opposition. The reason I know Race is because we have stood side by side on many occasions. Like I said earlier, Keyboard Korporals who don’t do their homework are useless to the mission. Know your allies, know your enemies, know the difference.


260 posted on 12/03/2009 10:14:10 PM PST by DannNY (Fighting the Insurgency at Home)
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To: RaceBannon

Just saw this via several links from here, to the post and mail and then back to this thread.

Thank you for coming forward, and thank you for your service to our country.

I don’t remember, but have you mentioned this before here on any of the BC threads? Just curious - if you didn’t, why not? And, if you did, please accept my apologies for asking! :)

God bless you & yours, RB!
Sincerely,
LR


261 posted on 12/03/2009 11:53:02 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: RaceBannon

Please disregard my previous post. I see you answered my question in the post I am replying to.

Given the treatment you have received on this thread I don’t blame you one bit for not speaking out sooner - especially as you said you can’t be 100% sure seeing as it was 30 years ago and all... Heck, I’ve gotten back in touch with some old friends from grade school and high school and I have found my memory to be clogged with cobwebs and that was only 20 years ago!

Again, God bless you and keep you, RB! And, thank you for speaking out as you have.

I’m sorry so many of our fellow FReepers are doubting you. I have posted to you, and read your posts on many threads here and there over the years I have been here and I have no reason to think you would be lying about this at all.

And again, THANK YOU for your service. My whole family greatly appreciates it!


262 posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:20 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: danamco

Don’t you remember the photos during the campaign before and after he went to Hawaii? A tan on him DEFINITELY makes him look more “black” than mulatto! Wish I had the pics handy, but there is a DEFINITE difference in his skin tone before and after the trip. I wouldn’t doubt if he had a tanning bed in the White House — hmmm... wonder if we can get any White House Staff to answer THAT question???


263 posted on 12/04/2009 12:07:28 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: syc1959

Not nearly enough work has been done on this weird COLB of his, and I get sick of hearing “He already posted his BC online...”

There are many points we could question: I saw it suggested that his original BC was changed when he was adopted. This seems a very reasonable suggestion, but no one has looked into it.

The online COLB says that he was born in Honolulu - what does his sister’s say? What do others say? Would it say this if he were adopted and all the doc then redone, and then what would happen if his status changed back after one or two of the two divorces???

Much more investigation needs to be done, many more questions need to be asked......

More long forms as examples need to be examined.

More COLBS need to be looked at, real ones from real Americans

The two twins ...

How the newspapers got the notice info - generated automatically or called in for example

The Miami return of Stanley in 1961 - where did that info come from?

Any records in Canada or perhaps another country between Nairobi and Miami

Is the eBay certificate to be dismissed out of hand? I saw the photos of the guy walking the dirty streets of Kenya ———— that’s a lot more than anyone else has offered. He says he got it with bribe money, and that the names on it check out in other books from 1961. True? Will anyone add to this?


264 posted on 12/04/2009 12:10:30 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: nascarnation

Where are the books or articles from people who knew him in Hawaii?
Great observation.

Baraq is definitely a ghost throughout much of his life.

It’s astounding that a guy who makes it to POTUS has so little history outside of his “autobiography”


Where are the ex-girlfriends ??


265 posted on 12/04/2009 12:47:42 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: RaceBannon

From the anti-birther movement

The Marine and the Post and Email

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/the-marine-and-the-post-and-email/


266 posted on 12/04/2009 2:26:51 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

sister has no colb
sister born in Indonesia
State could not certify her “live birth”
colb only for those born in State
sister has certificate of foreign birth

colbs are valid certificates released by most States


267 posted on 12/04/2009 2:36:51 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: RaceBannon

Another anti-birther weighs in

The Smiling Mulatto Who Would Be President

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=5138


268 posted on 12/04/2009 2:40:20 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Where are the ex-girlboyfriends ??
269 posted on 12/04/2009 3:31:57 PM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: RaceBannon
OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE WILL BE THE STRAW WHICH BREAKS THIS CAMEL’S BACK
270 posted on 12/04/2009 4:01:56 PM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: rosettasister

those are funny!

My detractors don’t seem to realize, if I had just blurted it out, what I remembered from then, THATS when I would have looked like I was jumping on the bandwagon.

Now? It honestly is for a college paper, I told my professor of the day and others, and she asked me to write it down.

That’s how it got around, I sent it to friends who I thought it would be interesting to read, and one of them published it on NY GOE’s website, and here we are today! :)

I am not worried, and I am not surprised that people find it hokey. It has been a long time and I obviously dont remember a lot of that day, but , like I said, I remember it only because I was going to go back and show him pictures of Mombassa from April 1980


271 posted on 12/04/2009 4:09:36 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for the reply, Mr Bannon!


272 posted on 12/04/2009 4:26:11 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

Corsi to follow Palin on Obama eligibility

Interviews put birth certificate back on front burner

Humphries’ interview of Corsi on “The Rusty Humphries Show” airs tonight, Dec. 4, at 9:00 p.m. Eastern Time.

http://radiotime.com/station/s_34471/KOIL_1180.aspx


273 posted on 12/04/2009 4:26:39 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: syc1959

The American people will always believe Obama because not to do so is to condemn themselves.


274 posted on 12/04/2009 4:31:34 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: RaceBannon
Will you sign an affidavit attesting to your story?

Lucas Smith previously asked if you would write an affidavit and allow him and his lawyer to use it in their litigation, but I haven't seen an answer here to the question yet. If you have answered Lucas Smith privately, please let us know, and please consider sharing your answer with those of us very interested in it.
275 posted on 12/04/2009 4:51:58 PM PST by Nontaxpayer
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To: RaceBannon

Mr. Bannon (I know that’s not your real name)

I have no reason to doubt you. You seem like a very nice man.

It’s just that we’ve had our chain pulled so many times that we don’t know what to believe anymore.

I was involved with that whole Korir/API fiasco and I didn’t have any reason not to believe him, either.

In fact I considered him a friend long before he claimed he had Michelle Obama tape.

Korir and I had already been communicating and when the sh*t hit the fan, I basically told him you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t.

I mention that because I have mixed feelings about the Obama eligibility issue.

I honestly don’t believe the truth will ever be revealed.

There’s a lot about Obama that will never be revealed.

I keep posting about it because a part of me wants him to have to keep paying these huge lawyer fees.

No matter where you fall along the political spectrum, I just wish these naysayers would be honest with themselves.

Say you don’t know, say you don’t care, say it doesn’t matter, say it’s not going to help get Republicans elected.

But please stop looking down your nose at those of us who believe we may be on to something here.


276 posted on 12/04/2009 5:01:46 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

Jerome Corsi on with Rusty Humphries

If that link doesn’t work for you, you may be able to find another link here.

http://radiotime.com/program/p_45426/The_Rusty_Humphries_Show.aspx


277 posted on 12/04/2009 5:13:17 PM PST by rosettasister
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To: syc1959

Bookmark


278 posted on 12/04/2009 5:19:38 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Nontaxpayer

I have a reason for not answering mr Lucas

Can’t reveal it yet.

Let’s just say, larger fish than Mr Lucas have been in contact with me.


279 posted on 12/04/2009 5:19:57 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: SoCalPol

Obviously you have never seen a Marine in Charlies at the end of the work day. But that hardly surprises me, considering it’s you.


280 posted on 12/04/2009 5:40:06 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: RaceBannon

You’re on together we served? Look me up!


281 posted on 12/04/2009 5:44:55 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: InspectorSmith

How did you do this?


282 posted on 12/04/2009 5:56:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: RaceBannon
Are you going to eventually sign an affidavit or become a plaintiff in some sort of legal action against Obama?

I can understand not answering Lucas Smith, and I'm trying to respect your privacy, but your story has become public and its allegation is of national interest. People like me, who have been involved in the eligibility movement for over a year, would like some assurance that you are serious and will move forward in a court of law on this.
283 posted on 12/04/2009 6:11:35 PM PST by Nontaxpayer
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To: Nontaxpayer

You’ll get my answer soon

I already gave a huge hint, use your noggin and think it through


284 posted on 12/04/2009 6:17:15 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon

Thank you. Understood. Godspeed! :)


285 posted on 12/04/2009 7:49:46 PM PST by Nontaxpayer
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To: netmilsmom

I was in Kenya in February 2009.


286 posted on 12/04/2009 8:45:17 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: RaceBannon

Dear Race Bannon,

I don’t know if there are “larger fish” that could have contacted you.

Who else has any document that backs up your story? I’m the one that has the Obama Mombasa birth certificate. Again, I don’t believe there would be a “larger fish”

I any case, I respect your decision. I wish you the best in bring your story to more of America.

Thank you.

Respectfully,
LUCAS DANIEL SMITH.


287 posted on 12/04/2009 9:51:26 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; RaceBannon; doug from upland
Thanks LucyT for the ping, I did not catch the RaceBannon connection at first.

FredNerks-good comparison. I am catching up on some FR postings and just last night reading a thread: OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH http://www.thepostemail.com/ ^ there was a mention of a Marine with the "nik" of RaceBannon which switched on light bulbs for me and made the FR connection.

I have lurked on FR since the Clintoons and joined in 2001. I can vouch for RaceBannon FR credentials and his consistant conservatism.

Fred, another FR poster of note is Doug from Upland and the Rathergate scandle-(if i remember correctly), Mercuria, AnnaZ they could all vouch for RaceBannon's credentials.

288 posted on 12/05/2009 7:20:11 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: RaceBannon
I believe you may have made a hasty and incorrect decision not to join up with the indomitable Mr. Smith in a combined legal fight to prove that Obama was indeed born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Lucas personally obtained and now owns the critical piece of evidence required, which is the Mombasa BC. He has also amassed an invaluable amount of hard-won knowledge and 'boots on the ground' experience about how to effectively win this constantly shifting, treacherous battle. He knows a lot about which players to trust and which players can talk a good game but who either are following their own selfish agenda or are actually secretly trying to lose the battle.

You don't yet have either the hard evidence or the experience needed in this fight and we don't have a lot of time to waste. Lucas is the expert here!

PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION!

289 posted on 12/05/2009 8:02:20 AM PST by WhizCodger (Katie - Bar the door, then text my reply of "F U" to the NWO!)
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To: WhizCodger

Well, this is fascinating, isn’t it?!

Honestly, I’m a bit surprised the usual suspects aren’t posting more about this.

Anyways, I did find this. Sorry if already posted.

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http://forums.wnd.com/index.php?fa=FORUM.post&formAction=new&replyPostId=127584&pageId=235

Reply to GVA:

Since I kicked things off here about this story, a Free Republic thread was kicked off by someone else shortly afterwards.

John Charlton of The Post & Email also got started on this story after this post, and today, has posted an article about the story and the alleged Marine who has been going by ‘RaceBannon’ on Free Republic for years:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/

Now, Lucas Smith — of the alleged Kenyan birth certificate fame — has joined the Free Republic thread.

He has recently asked ‘RaceBannon’ to write an affidavit and join him (and Orly Taitz, I suppose):

“My attorney and I are composing litigation now for an action in federal court that will be filed soon. Would you be willing to write an affidavit and allow us to include it in our litigation?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2397370/posts?q=1&;page=201#245

This is a good development. ‘RaceBannon’ has a solid reputation at Free Republic, from what I have read.

Also, he has held up well in the thread to criticism and questions.

His explanation for just recently writing about his recollection makes sense.

His memory was jogged last year, but he wouldn’t have even written about his recollection if he weren’t taking a class and persuaded to write about this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2397370/posts?q=1&;page=1#30

Very interesting.


290 posted on 12/05/2009 10:56:46 AM PST by rosettasister
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To: InspectorSmith

no you were not !
you even got the name of the CA of CPGH on Feb 19th 2009 wrong ! The name you wrote, stamped, typed was appointed only 2 months later.

Were are the pics from Kenya you promised ?
Or am I supposed to believe your barrio rooftop pics from Santo Domingo were actually from Kenya ?
What borders have you crossed when driving from Kinshasa to Nairobi ?
Where are the stamps on your passport ?
Why don’t you Scribd your Passport showing us evidence of the borders you crossed ?
Where is the company you said you worked for in Congo to be found on the internet ?

Have you yet found any evidence that Maganga was CA on Feb 19th 2009 ?
No you haven’t Lucas. You have been searching for 3 weeks now and you have found nothing to backup your lie. All you have to support your claim is the most stupidest, unrelated, irrelevant logical claim I have ever seen: That a University in Belgium has 2 administrators AND THIS ACCORDING TO YOU,@*#!°^*, MAKES MAGANGA THE CA OF CPGH ON FEB 19TH 2009.
Your patriot posturing all over the net will not redeme your past made of forgeries, crimes, hoaxes, and God only knows what else. You have never changed Lucas.
You are a disgusting person.


291 posted on 12/05/2009 3:22:05 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: All

To all those surprised by the tone used with Lucas and who have missed the evidence against him I remind the name and the date stamped on his certificate: Feb 19th 2009 - Helton Maganga - Chied Administrator - CPGH.

Here are the links that illustrate who was the Chief Administrator before and after Feb 19th 2009. Her name is Jennifer Othigo.
April 2009 http://www.nation.co.ke/InDepth/-/452898/560148/-/tqw6oqz/-/index.html
Feb 26th 2009 http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/535428/-/u2igdg/-/index.html
December 2008 http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/499590/-/tm7r8p/-/index.html

The first reference to Lucas’ signer as CA, Maganga, who’s name he has misspelled is here:

June 18th 2009 http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/612678/-/ukb32e/-/index.html

Lucas performed his hoax in June and posted it on the net. He never went to Kenya. He searched the net and found Maganga. He should have thought that on Feb the CA could have been someone else.


292 posted on 12/05/2009 3:49:38 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

Kim. Here you are lying again. Maya, BHO’s sister DOES have a Hawaiian colb even tho she was born in Indonesia. Anyone who wants to can google Maya Soetoro colb & see it. Now, Kim, don’t do what you did before and post your altered copy on scribd, then claim it’s the real deal.


293 posted on 12/05/2009 6:22:40 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: theviking711

bo, sorry, she doesn’t.
It’s just another selfpropagating internet legend out there.
I challenge you to find me an unconfutable source


294 posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:58 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: InspectorSmith

another inconsistency:

this is a quote from your first E-bay auction:

http://theautonomist.com/atnmst/bo_bc_files/obamma_bc_ebay.html

“This spring I traveled through Kenya and it’s capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the “iconicized” face of US President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the Club Sandwich with fried Plantains was now known as “Obama’s Plate of the Day.””

“This spring” you wrote.

So why is the date you stamped Feb 19th 2009 ?
Feb 19 is winter.


295 posted on 12/06/2009 1:18:43 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: InspectorSmith

I have fully understood why.


296 posted on 12/06/2009 1:20:48 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: InspectorSmith

In post 286 you write:

I was in Kenya in Feb 2009

On your e-bay auction you said:

This spring I traveled through Kenya and it’s capital Nairobi.

Which of the 2 is false ?


297 posted on 12/06/2009 2:09:55 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Nontaxpayer
"The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era." http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html ------------------------------------------------- This why Barack Obama, being born in 1961, has some sort of Hawaiian birth record. Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. His original Hawaiian birth record could reflect his birth in Mombasa. If not, then his original Hawaiian birth record will be shown to entail nothing more than an affidavit from family (probably his late grandmother who passed away while Obama won election) declaring that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii (possibly a home birth). A certified copy of Obamas original Hawaiian birth record needs to be disclosed to the public. All that we have to date from Hawaii is a "short form" birth certificate for Barack Obama II. No person is born with a "short form" birth certificate. A "short form" birth certificate is a fairly new (1990s) style of "truncated" birth certificate which entails "some vital information" from the original birth certificate from which it is taken from. ----------------------------------------------- Although Sun Yat Sen was born November 12, 1866 in the village of Cuiheng in southern China, he was able to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Said certificate was issued by the Territory of Hawaii on March 1904, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in the Hawaiian Islands by signing a affidavit declaring so, along with evidence from witnesses, and providing a photograph of himself. I have uploaded a copy of his Certificate of Hawaiian Birth to my Patriot1980 scribd.com account: "Sun Yat Sen - Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Although he was born in China." http://www.scribd.com/doc/23771322/Sun-Yat-Sen-Certificate-of-Hawaiian-Birth-Although-he-was-born-in-China
298 posted on 12/07/2009 3:03:43 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: InspectorSmith

do you know these things have been discussed 1 year ago ? Where have you been ? Or is this just disctraction from the informations you are not able to provide ?

1 Why does your document bear name and signature of Chief Administrator Dr. Maganga, who was appointed Chief Administrator only AFTER the date on your document, Feb 19th 2009 ?

2 When have you been to Kenya, since on one occasion you say “spring 2009” and on another you say Feb 19th 2009 ?

3 What is the name of the “water project” company that sent you to Congo ?

4 What borders have you crossed from Congo Kinshasa to Kenya ? What towns have you stopped in ?

5 Show us your passport.

Please answer these questions or just admit your forgery and shut up.


299 posted on 12/07/2009 7:44:50 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg; theviking711; LucyT

Dear Mik Taerg aka Great Kim aka GreatKim2009,

As you know we’ve stated on the InspectorSmith forum that we no longer answer questions that you (Kim aka Mik) put forward.

How many times have your theories about Coast Province General Hospital and birth certificates in general been debunked? How many times have I and other answered your questions? And when we do answers your great questions what do you do then? You act as if that point wasn’t really important in the first place, then you move on to your next wild theory.

Then there’s the factor that when you use a Kenyan news outlet source you claim that it is a valid source, yet when I or others do the same you claim that the Kenyan news outlet is not valid.???

You ranted for two months on the InspectorSmith forum about the spelling on Maganga’s name, yet when you cited Othigo we then all found many more different more ways that Othigo spells her nameS. That’s when you started claiming that the name spellings are not important.

Anytime evidence is disclosed that debunks your theory you then claim that your theory was not important, or you make claims that the new information has been talked about for quite some time now, or that it’s not a reliable source.

For these reason, along with your forgeries, we have made a decision weeks ago to stop replying to your wild and unsupported theories.

Othigo was “deputy chief”. I have pointed this out. There is also a great possibility that the hospital has two chief administrators. Even you Kim, aka Mik Taerg, have admitted that there could be two chief admins at the hospital. I quote (GreatKim2009 aka Mik Taerg):”I could have easily helped him because my own company has 2 head admins, I am one of the two. It happens all the time.”

So even though you admit that tow chief admins “happens ALL THE TIME” and even though you are one of two chief admins at your company you would find it so impossible for another institution to practice the same? It’s these type of one sided and illogical argument (along with your forgeries) that have compelled most everyone to stop replying to you on any online forum.

Myself and others are now concerned with new litigation that is being filed in a civil action against Barack Obama. I suggest that you start a forum yourself if you’d like to address what you claim are problems with the CPGH Obama document.

Below are links to your forgeries (even though one has now been made private by you....wonder why). These are the forgeries committed by you which list Obama’s birth place as Honolulu, Hawaii, United States. Nowadays you make online claims that these were done to demonstrate how easily that CPGH doc could have been a forgery. If this is true, why then have you not mentioned this alongside the forgeries? You state nothing to that effect alongside your two forgeries. Readers are left the impression that your forgery is real. All this yet you still request that I upload more documenst online for you to view??? For what, another forgery constructed by Great Kim aka Mik Taerg himself/herself?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19802901/Lucas-Smith-First-Obama-Birth-Certificate

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:okKOJ-9xgQMJ:s698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/greatkim2009/+greatkim2009&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Another reason that we don’t take the time to answer your questions nowadays is because in your book (the way you respond to our answers) we are damned if we and damned if we don’t. If we answer your claim, you state something like, “ah, look, why would you even take the time to answer if this weren’t important. Ah, you know that things are closing in on you and that’s why you have taken time to answer me!” But if we don’t answer you then claim that, “Ah, why wont you answer, you have no answer do you!”

Kim, you’ve lied many time to support your theories. You’ve claimed to have spoken with Maganga (your words on the InspectorSmith forum, so don’t attempt to wiggle out), yet two months later you claim that Maganga was not chief admin in Feruary 2009. Wouldn’t Maganga have told you this when you spoke to him two months ago? Yes, I know, your answer now is that you were lying. You actually never spoke to him, is that your new argument? You lied so it doesn’t count now?

You’ve also admitted to never having been to Africa. At the onset you claimed to have worked in Africa for ‘oil companies’ for 30 years. Yet when questioned about culture and norms in Africa you are clueless. So then you admit you didn’t know much about Africa because you’d never been to Africa. So again, your stance is that it doesn’t count because you were lying.

You piece together wild theories before you think them through. You state that there is no hospital birth certificate in the world that does not state the child’s birth place, even if it is only to say “in this hospital”. We then learned that in most of India it is the norm to not state a birth place nor the child’s name on the hospital birth certificates. What was you’re reply to that Kim? You claim that it’s not important. Yet you wonder why no one takes you seriously?

You claim that you are now a witness against in litigation which is geared towards discrediting the CPGH Obama birth certificate. Kim, it appears that you are a jack of all trades. No matter what topic is discussed you claim to have some firsthand experience. This is a trait of a pathological liar.

You used to claim that I was harmless and that you had great respect for me. No you are over on another forum (2 that I know of) stating that I (Lucas) am very dangerous and that it’s imperative that I am stopped.

You sound like a maniac. You’ve been baiting me for a week now to reply to your posts on this dead thread here on FR. Do you get out much Kim? What do you do with your free time?

Good luck with everything but, please leave me alone. Ok? Find a hobby or something. Or focus on your fabled litigation.

Respectfully,
Lucas Smith.


300 posted on 12/07/2009 10:58:43 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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