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Barack Obama Sighting, Hawaii 1980
Gathering of Eagles ^ | Nov 17, 2009 | GOE NY

Posted on 11/30/2009 7:43:24 PM PST by syc1959

A friend of mine sent me this story of his time in the Marine Corps. Read through to the end, it’s a shocker.

What strikes me most is what he said as to where he grew up: Indonesia. He told me he wanted to be President of the US someday. I remember lightly smiling and commenting that maybe by the time he gets to be 40 or so, America will be ready for a Black man to be President and I wished him luck. We spoke of the racial tensions I saw at home while growing up and I asked him if he ever saw that overseas or since he returned back to Hawaii. I don’t remember his answer, but we spoke more of his time overseas and his thoughts on life and philosophy of government. He made some strange comments to me, it was obvious he never set foot for any time in the continental United States and I told him he better realize that he is making judgments about the United States when he himself never actually lived there. I told him, “Hawaii aint the United States!”

He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there”. I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1980; birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; hawaii; kenya; mombasa; mulatto; obama; obroma; stuffwarsmadeof
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To: RaceBannon

You’re on together we served? Look me up!

281 posted on 12/04/2009 5:44:55 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: InspectorSmith

How did you do this?

282 posted on 12/04/2009 5:56:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: RaceBannon
Are you going to eventually sign an affidavit or become a plaintiff in some sort of legal action against Obama?

I can understand not answering Lucas Smith, and I'm trying to respect your privacy, but your story has become public and its allegation is of national interest. People like me, who have been involved in the eligibility movement for over a year, would like some assurance that you are serious and will move forward in a court of law on this.
283 posted on 12/04/2009 6:11:35 PM PST by Nontaxpayer
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To: Nontaxpayer

You’ll get my answer soon

I already gave a huge hint, use your noggin and think it through

284 posted on 12/04/2009 6:17:15 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon

Thank you. Understood. Godspeed! :)

285 posted on 12/04/2009 7:49:46 PM PST by Nontaxpayer
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To: netmilsmom

I was in Kenya in February 2009.

286 posted on 12/04/2009 8:45:17 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: RaceBannon

Dear Race Bannon,

I don’t know if there are “larger fish” that could have contacted you.

Who else has any document that backs up your story? I’m the one that has the Obama Mombasa birth certificate. Again, I don’t believe there would be a “larger fish”

I any case, I respect your decision. I wish you the best in bring your story to more of America.

Thank you.


287 posted on 12/04/2009 9:51:26 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; RaceBannon; doug from upland
Thanks LucyT for the ping, I did not catch the RaceBannon connection at first.

FredNerks-good comparison. I am catching up on some FR postings and just last night reading a thread: OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH ^ there was a mention of a Marine with the "nik" of RaceBannon which switched on light bulbs for me and made the FR connection.

I have lurked on FR since the Clintoons and joined in 2001. I can vouch for RaceBannon FR credentials and his consistant conservatism.

Fred, another FR poster of note is Doug from Upland and the Rathergate scandle-(if i remember correctly), Mercuria, AnnaZ they could all vouch for RaceBannon's credentials.

288 posted on 12/05/2009 7:20:11 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: RaceBannon
I believe you may have made a hasty and incorrect decision not to join up with the indomitable Mr. Smith in a combined legal fight to prove that Obama was indeed born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Lucas personally obtained and now owns the critical piece of evidence required, which is the Mombasa BC. He has also amassed an invaluable amount of hard-won knowledge and 'boots on the ground' experience about how to effectively win this constantly shifting, treacherous battle. He knows a lot about which players to trust and which players can talk a good game but who either are following their own selfish agenda or are actually secretly trying to lose the battle.

You don't yet have either the hard evidence or the experience needed in this fight and we don't have a lot of time to waste. Lucas is the expert here!


289 posted on 12/05/2009 8:02:20 AM PST by WhizCodger (Katie - Bar the door, then text my reply of "F U" to the NWO!)
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To: WhizCodger

Well, this is fascinating, isn’t it?!

Honestly, I’m a bit surprised the usual suspects aren’t posting more about this.

Anyways, I did find this. Sorry if already posted.


Reply to GVA:

Since I kicked things off here about this story, a Free Republic thread was kicked off by someone else shortly afterwards.

John Charlton of The Post & Email also got started on this story after this post, and today, has posted an article about the story and the alleged Marine who has been going by ‘RaceBannon’ on Free Republic for years:

Now, Lucas Smith — of the alleged Kenyan birth certificate fame — has joined the Free Republic thread.

He has recently asked ‘RaceBannon’ to write an affidavit and join him (and Orly Taitz, I suppose):

“My attorney and I are composing litigation now for an action in federal court that will be filed soon. Would you be willing to write an affidavit and allow us to include it in our litigation?”;page=201#245

This is a good development. ‘RaceBannon’ has a solid reputation at Free Republic, from what I have read.

Also, he has held up well in the thread to criticism and questions.

His explanation for just recently writing about his recollection makes sense.

His memory was jogged last year, but he wouldn’t have even written about his recollection if he weren’t taking a class and persuaded to write about this:;page=1#30

Very interesting.

290 posted on 12/05/2009 10:56:46 AM PST by rosettasister
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To: InspectorSmith

no you were not !
you even got the name of the CA of CPGH on Feb 19th 2009 wrong ! The name you wrote, stamped, typed was appointed only 2 months later.

Were are the pics from Kenya you promised ?
Or am I supposed to believe your barrio rooftop pics from Santo Domingo were actually from Kenya ?
What borders have you crossed when driving from Kinshasa to Nairobi ?
Where are the stamps on your passport ?
Why don’t you Scribd your Passport showing us evidence of the borders you crossed ?
Where is the company you said you worked for in Congo to be found on the internet ?

Have you yet found any evidence that Maganga was CA on Feb 19th 2009 ?
No you haven’t Lucas. You have been searching for 3 weeks now and you have found nothing to backup your lie. All you have to support your claim is the most stupidest, unrelated, irrelevant logical claim I have ever seen: That a University in Belgium has 2 administrators AND THIS ACCORDING TO YOU,@*#!°^*, MAKES MAGANGA THE CA OF CPGH ON FEB 19TH 2009.
Your patriot posturing all over the net will not redeme your past made of forgeries, crimes, hoaxes, and God only knows what else. You have never changed Lucas.
You are a disgusting person.

291 posted on 12/05/2009 3:22:05 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: All

To all those surprised by the tone used with Lucas and who have missed the evidence against him I remind the name and the date stamped on his certificate: Feb 19th 2009 - Helton Maganga - Chied Administrator - CPGH.

Here are the links that illustrate who was the Chief Administrator before and after Feb 19th 2009. Her name is Jennifer Othigo.
April 2009
Feb 26th 2009
December 2008

The first reference to Lucas’ signer as CA, Maganga, who’s name he has misspelled is here:

June 18th 2009

Lucas performed his hoax in June and posted it on the net. He never went to Kenya. He searched the net and found Maganga. He should have thought that on Feb the CA could have been someone else.

292 posted on 12/05/2009 3:49:38 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

Kim. Here you are lying again. Maya, BHO’s sister DOES have a Hawaiian colb even tho she was born in Indonesia. Anyone who wants to can google Maya Soetoro colb & see it. Now, Kim, don’t do what you did before and post your altered copy on scribd, then claim it’s the real deal.

293 posted on 12/05/2009 6:22:40 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: theviking711

bo, sorry, she doesn’t.
It’s just another selfpropagating internet legend out there.
I challenge you to find me an unconfutable source

294 posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:58 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: InspectorSmith

another inconsistency:

this is a quote from your first E-bay auction:

“This spring I traveled through Kenya and it’s capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the “iconicized” face of US President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the Club Sandwich with fried Plantains was now known as “Obama’s Plate of the Day.””

“This spring” you wrote.

So why is the date you stamped Feb 19th 2009 ?
Feb 19 is winter.

295 posted on 12/06/2009 1:18:43 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: InspectorSmith

I have fully understood why.

296 posted on 12/06/2009 1:20:48 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: InspectorSmith

In post 286 you write:

I was in Kenya in Feb 2009

On your e-bay auction you said:

This spring I traveled through Kenya and it’s capital Nairobi.

Which of the 2 is false ?

297 posted on 12/06/2009 2:09:55 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Nontaxpayer
"The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era." ------------------------------------------------- This why Barack Obama, being born in 1961, has some sort of Hawaiian birth record. Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. His original Hawaiian birth record could reflect his birth in Mombasa. If not, then his original Hawaiian birth record will be shown to entail nothing more than an affidavit from family (probably his late grandmother who passed away while Obama won election) declaring that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii (possibly a home birth). A certified copy of Obamas original Hawaiian birth record needs to be disclosed to the public. All that we have to date from Hawaii is a "short form" birth certificate for Barack Obama II. No person is born with a "short form" birth certificate. A "short form" birth certificate is a fairly new (1990s) style of "truncated" birth certificate which entails "some vital information" from the original birth certificate from which it is taken from. ----------------------------------------------- Although Sun Yat Sen was born November 12, 1866 in the village of Cuiheng in southern China, he was able to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Said certificate was issued by the Territory of Hawaii on March 1904, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in the Hawaiian Islands by signing a affidavit declaring so, along with evidence from witnesses, and providing a photograph of himself. I have uploaded a copy of his Certificate of Hawaiian Birth to my Patriot1980 account: "Sun Yat Sen - Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. Although he was born in China."
298 posted on 12/07/2009 3:03:43 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: InspectorSmith

do you know these things have been discussed 1 year ago ? Where have you been ? Or is this just disctraction from the informations you are not able to provide ?

1 Why does your document bear name and signature of Chief Administrator Dr. Maganga, who was appointed Chief Administrator only AFTER the date on your document, Feb 19th 2009 ?

2 When have you been to Kenya, since on one occasion you say “spring 2009” and on another you say Feb 19th 2009 ?

3 What is the name of the “water project” company that sent you to Congo ?

4 What borders have you crossed from Congo Kinshasa to Kenya ? What towns have you stopped in ?

5 Show us your passport.

Please answer these questions or just admit your forgery and shut up.

299 posted on 12/07/2009 7:44:50 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg; theviking711; LucyT

Dear Mik Taerg aka Great Kim aka GreatKim2009,

As you know we’ve stated on the InspectorSmith forum that we no longer answer questions that you (Kim aka Mik) put forward.

How many times have your theories about Coast Province General Hospital and birth certificates in general been debunked? How many times have I and other answered your questions? And when we do answers your great questions what do you do then? You act as if that point wasn’t really important in the first place, then you move on to your next wild theory.

Then there’s the factor that when you use a Kenyan news outlet source you claim that it is a valid source, yet when I or others do the same you claim that the Kenyan news outlet is not valid.???

You ranted for two months on the InspectorSmith forum about the spelling on Maganga’s name, yet when you cited Othigo we then all found many more different more ways that Othigo spells her nameS. That’s when you started claiming that the name spellings are not important.

Anytime evidence is disclosed that debunks your theory you then claim that your theory was not important, or you make claims that the new information has been talked about for quite some time now, or that it’s not a reliable source.

For these reason, along with your forgeries, we have made a decision weeks ago to stop replying to your wild and unsupported theories.

Othigo was “deputy chief”. I have pointed this out. There is also a great possibility that the hospital has two chief administrators. Even you Kim, aka Mik Taerg, have admitted that there could be two chief admins at the hospital. I quote (GreatKim2009 aka Mik Taerg):”I could have easily helped him because my own company has 2 head admins, I am one of the two. It happens all the time.”

So even though you admit that tow chief admins “happens ALL THE TIME” and even though you are one of two chief admins at your company you would find it so impossible for another institution to practice the same? It’s these type of one sided and illogical argument (along with your forgeries) that have compelled most everyone to stop replying to you on any online forum.

Myself and others are now concerned with new litigation that is being filed in a civil action against Barack Obama. I suggest that you start a forum yourself if you’d like to address what you claim are problems with the CPGH Obama document.

Below are links to your forgeries (even though one has now been made private by you....wonder why). These are the forgeries committed by you which list Obama’s birth place as Honolulu, Hawaii, United States. Nowadays you make online claims that these were done to demonstrate how easily that CPGH doc could have been a forgery. If this is true, why then have you not mentioned this alongside the forgeries? You state nothing to that effect alongside your two forgeries. Readers are left the impression that your forgery is real. All this yet you still request that I upload more documenst online for you to view??? For what, another forgery constructed by Great Kim aka Mik Taerg himself/herself?

Another reason that we don’t take the time to answer your questions nowadays is because in your book (the way you respond to our answers) we are damned if we and damned if we don’t. If we answer your claim, you state something like, “ah, look, why would you even take the time to answer if this weren’t important. Ah, you know that things are closing in on you and that’s why you have taken time to answer me!” But if we don’t answer you then claim that, “Ah, why wont you answer, you have no answer do you!”

Kim, you’ve lied many time to support your theories. You’ve claimed to have spoken with Maganga (your words on the InspectorSmith forum, so don’t attempt to wiggle out), yet two months later you claim that Maganga was not chief admin in Feruary 2009. Wouldn’t Maganga have told you this when you spoke to him two months ago? Yes, I know, your answer now is that you were lying. You actually never spoke to him, is that your new argument? You lied so it doesn’t count now?

You’ve also admitted to never having been to Africa. At the onset you claimed to have worked in Africa for ‘oil companies’ for 30 years. Yet when questioned about culture and norms in Africa you are clueless. So then you admit you didn’t know much about Africa because you’d never been to Africa. So again, your stance is that it doesn’t count because you were lying.

You piece together wild theories before you think them through. You state that there is no hospital birth certificate in the world that does not state the child’s birth place, even if it is only to say “in this hospital”. We then learned that in most of India it is the norm to not state a birth place nor the child’s name on the hospital birth certificates. What was you’re reply to that Kim? You claim that it’s not important. Yet you wonder why no one takes you seriously?

You claim that you are now a witness against in litigation which is geared towards discrediting the CPGH Obama birth certificate. Kim, it appears that you are a jack of all trades. No matter what topic is discussed you claim to have some firsthand experience. This is a trait of a pathological liar.

You used to claim that I was harmless and that you had great respect for me. No you are over on another forum (2 that I know of) stating that I (Lucas) am very dangerous and that it’s imperative that I am stopped.

You sound like a maniac. You’ve been baiting me for a week now to reply to your posts on this dead thread here on FR. Do you get out much Kim? What do you do with your free time?

Good luck with everything but, please leave me alone. Ok? Find a hobby or something. Or focus on your fabled litigation.

Lucas Smith.

300 posted on 12/07/2009 10:58:43 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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