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ikeonic: Victim of Palin Zot
Ikeonic ^ | 12/5/2009 | Ikeonic

Posted on 12/05/2009 9:54:41 AM PST by ikeonic

Sarah's explanation of why she legitimized the birther conspiracy theorists feeds right into her victimhood storyline:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask … which they have repeatedly.
Ah yes... Palin was a victim of a massive left wing conspiracy that forced her to courageously step down as Alaska's governor.  So it's only fair (to her mind) that Obama be hounded by an equally loony right wing conspiracy -- the birthers.  Well, you just can't argue with logic like that!

Rick Moran at Pajamas Media takes Palin to task and then some.  Here's a sample:

I note that some Palin fans are trying to spin the fact that she never called on the president to produce his birth certificate or questioned his citizenship. They are missing the point. Sarah Palin has said that these questions are legitimate, that voters have a right to know, and that “a lot” of citizens are concerned about it.

She didn’t say what any rational person on the right or left believes: that questions about the president’s birth have been settled by the state of Hawaii, that only a very small group of citizens are even concerned about the issue, and that an equally small number of people were even aware of the ridiculous controversy over Trig’s origins.

Moran continues:
Those who are tempted to say that Sarah Palin’s attempt to legitimize the birther movement will destroy her campaign should forget it. It will never happen. She is immunized against such career-ending gaffes by her loyal followers who don’t want to listen to anyone when they criticize, laugh, or beat their heads against a wall over the latest evidence that as presidential material Palin would make a good candidate for the mayor of Wasilla.
The problem is, unless the GOP — and that includes Rush Limbaugh and the other cotton candy conservatives who wield a lot of influence — stand up and denounce her in no uncertain terms, birtherism will have gone completely mainstream in the Republican Party. If that happens, you might want to forget about any significant gains at the polls for the GOP in 2010.
By her stupidity, she is now going to force every GOP candidate for the House and Senate to come out and declare whether they are birther nuts or not.
Indeed.  Read the whole story here.

The only reason I bother these days to post anything about Palin is merely to declare that I rue the day McCain ever picked her as his running mate (stupidest decision of his adult life) and pray that someday soon she will return to Alaska and disappear.  Palin is the poison pill that threatens to sink the entire GOP and I refuse to take that pill and go down with her. 

I'm not going to hold my nose and vote for Palin.  I can not go to my grave with that vote on my conscience.  It was bad enough holding my nose and voting for her to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency.  If she is our nominee in 2012 or 2016 or 20xx, I will vote for a third party or none of the above.  If she's all we got, then we deserve to lose.  It's that simple.

Now some might call me hypocritical for supporting Palin while she was the nominee.  True enough... but I'll leave it to Chuckles Johnson to offer up an explanation for anything I wrote in support of Palin last year:

Says Chuckles: "I was skeptical of her, but I was ready to defend her, because it was hyper-partisan time."

On that much, I'll agree with Chuckles -- and I agree with little Chuckles has to say these days.  In hyper-partisan mode, I too said a lot of things to defend Palin.  I swallowed hard and praised her just as I know it pained others to praise McCain during the campaign. 

But once the election was over, I pulled few punches with Palin.  Just as every RINO hating social conservative wasted no time in spouting their hatred for McCain once the election was over.  I was always a McCain supporter (and wish he'd beat Bush in 2000), but never liked Palin for anything other than her ability to regurgitate sound bites (more like bait) to appeal to the base. 

I always preferred Pawlenty and think McCain would have been far better served to lose with honor with Pawlenty at his side than to throw a Hail Mary with Palin and unknowingly launch the career of the all but certain destructor of the modern day GOP.  In the end, the shadow of Sarah Palin may well drawf all the good McCain accomplished in the US Senate.


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You know, Sarah's just asking questions, that's all... just a real, true patriotic American asking questions... you know, instead of governing Alaska like the voters of Alaska elected her to do...
1 posted on 12/05/2009 9:54:42 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic

And like all those people filing phony ethics charges against her wouldnt let her do.


2 posted on 12/05/2009 9:57:14 AM PST by Venturer
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To: ikeonic
Governor Palin is just another victim, as was Dan Quayle, of a vicious attack by beasts who aren't even human. They're aliens from another planet.

If you don't believe me just look at Waxman.

If he was standing outside looking at a rainfall he'd drown.

This is what the Democrat Party is: alien, inhuman.

3 posted on 12/05/2009 9:58:10 AM PST by IbJensen (Merry Christmas to everyone, especially the ACLU)
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To: Venturer
And like all those people filing phony ethics charges against her wouldnt let her do.

Okay, for the sake of argument, I'll accept your argument. Now, let's say she wins the Presidency (when hell freezes over)... wouldn't she be subject to tons more phony charges by the vast left wing conspiracy? How long before she'd have to resign as President? Or do you believe as President she could vanquish all the liberals once and for all?

You can't say it was a barrage phony charges that forced her to resign as governor in one breath and then in another breath say she could handle the job pressures of the Presidency. It's a completely illogical argument... but then again, I'm not used to hearing many original logical arguments from Palin supporters these days.

4 posted on 12/05/2009 10:01:50 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic
Maybe when you're older you will understand these matters. For now, you best just go back to your blog and play, until you're old enough to get it. Educating the quitter-bots we already have has been enough of a headache, we don't need any more.
5 posted on 12/05/2009 10:02:06 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Venturer
Tanks,Venturer....
outside of that,this article has all the legitimacy of toilet paper,although it is worth using for that purpose.

More outrageously pathetic smear tactics.
6 posted on 12/05/2009 10:02:44 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: ikeonic
In the end, the shadow of Sarah Palin may well drawf all the good McCain accomplished in the US Senate.

A dwarf would dwarf McCain's accomplisments in the Senate.

7 posted on 12/05/2009 10:02:54 AM PST by fhayek
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To: ikeonic
Ah yes... Palin was a victim of a massive left wing conspiracy that forced her to courageously step down as Alaska's governor.

This is an outright lie. We all know why Governor Palin resigned, and it had nothing to do with scumbag leftists claiming that Trig wasn't her child.

So it's only fair (to her mind) that Obama be hounded by an equally loony right wing conspiracy -- the birthers.

If the disingenuous poster yes, I'm talking to you moron would read the rest of her Facebook note, she has never asked - not during the campaign or recently - that Obama produce his BC. All she's saying is if people have a right to question whether or not if Trig was hers (which she provided ironclad proof), then they have every right to question whether or not Zero is a natural-born U.S. citizen (which he has not produced anything except a forged COLB).

8 posted on 12/05/2009 10:04:00 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Educating the quitter-bots we already have

Quitter-bot is a new term to me but it seems like it would apply to the former governor of Alaska quite nicely. She and all her fans are definitely quitter-bots playing their victimhood violins.

9 posted on 12/05/2009 10:05:06 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic
you know, instead of governing Alaska like the voters of Alaska elected her to do

Which she did before leftist operatives on orders from Obama/Soros strangled the state's business.

10 posted on 12/05/2009 10:05:10 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: ikeonic

Considering the fact she is now one of the main targets of the liberal left she made a great decision as a leader and will have to stand by it. That decision was to be fair to the votes of Alaska and not pull them into whats to come as the progressives attack her full strength to try and silence the truth. Yes she made a good decision in my eyes. She remove herself from being a liability to the voters needs and is now free to address the false accusation, you know by the same type of reporter whom refuse to address major corruption issues like ACORN, Communist in the White House, Climate Change propaganda... Sorry you do not like her move but guess what you get to deal with it.


11 posted on 12/05/2009 10:06:00 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: ikeonic

IBTZ!


12 posted on 12/05/2009 10:06:14 AM PST by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: ikeonic

>>...equally loony right wing conspiracy — the birthers.<<

That line cracked me up. I don’t believe Sarah has spent millions hiding any information.

I could be wrong, of course.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 10:07:11 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: ikeonic
I always preferred Pawlenty

LOLOL.... I knew it had to be either Paul,or Huckabee,or Romney,or Pawlenty,spurring this article on.
Bingo.
Good luck with your guy in '12...Sarah will kick his ass.
Funny-it's not so much the left that are attacking her any more as it is the RINO supporters.
14 posted on 12/05/2009 10:07:32 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: ikeonic

I suppose you and the other 2 percent of the country will make a real splash with TPaw in the primaries.

As for McCain losing with dignity with TPaw, try losing by double digits. With the tiny crowds of 2000 or less McCain was drawing on his own and the tiny Biden size crowds - usually a few hundred - TPaw would have drawn, it would have been like the invisible campaign. You must be one of those guys who think that Custer lost with dignity at the Little Big Horn.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 10:08:06 AM PST by euram
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To: ikeonic

So if McCain would have won, wouldn’t he have quitted the job he was elected to as Senator of Arizona?


16 posted on 12/05/2009 10:08:20 AM PST by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: ikeonic

“How long before she’d have to resign as President? Or do you believe as President she could vanquish all the liberals once and for all?”

You are an idiot...she was being personally attacked and sued and immobilized by aholes like you and she did not have the resources to defend herself...she was PERSONALLY in debt up to her neck and couldn’t cope financially with the debt or the time consuming task of trying to deal with the liberal onslaught with no money...after her book tour and after hell freezes over and she is elected, the resources will be there...just how stupid are you? As for “vanquishinmg” you liberals, that won’t be necessary; you are doing a fine job of it yourselves...


17 posted on 12/05/2009 10:08:25 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: ikeonic
You know, you are a moron, you know.

Maybe, you know, if bogus Leftist legal attacks, you know, were threatening to bankrupt you and your family, you know, you might step down from your job too, you know, rather then risk fiscal ruin, you know.

But then hyper stupid partisan bigots like you never bother to learn even a single fact about Palin that might challenge your emotion based ignorance and hyper bigotry now do you?

18 posted on 12/05/2009 10:09:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: ikeonic

I don’t have a problem with Palin asking a simple question of Obama: Who are you really?

As President, he has enormous power, as he has readily shown he is willing to use, with his radical friends, to gut the economic power of this country, and to oppose the fight for freedom all over the globe.

He was born of a British father, and thus a British subject at birth. At best, he is a dual citizen. How does that square with the Constitutional requirement to be a natural born citizen, a citizen born of two citizens?

When did his name revert back to Obama from Soetoro?

When did he become a naturalized American citizen, having been, at one time or another, a British subject and a citizen of Indonesia?

Ever hear of an American President with a past scrubbed like his past is? School records,State of Illinois legislative records—all locked down tighter than Fort Know. Why? And who paid for his college years?

Why use tax dollars at the DOJ to fight cases about his origins, when he could solve the problem with a $ 12 piece of paper. Anyone with their finger on the red button better damn well not have any questions about who he is.

Zero can stop the questions anytime he wants to. Until then, or until the questions are answered, Sarah and others questioning him are most welcome in my book.


19 posted on 12/05/2009 10:09:08 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: ikeonic

I fear your VEWY good fwiend, Rahm is going to slash your trolling reimbursement allotment.

A very poor, factually vacant and utterly transparent effort

Thespian conservative, and a bad one at that.


20 posted on 12/05/2009 10:09:58 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: ikeonic

“I was always a McCain supporter (and wish he’d beat Bush in 2000...”

I apologize for my earlier outburst when I called you an idiot...you are clearly a moron...


21 posted on 12/05/2009 10:10:00 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: ikeonic

Just because she step down those charges still would have had bearing if they were valid yet where are they? They we as most know a smoke screen with the purpose to tie everything up and cloud the sky, sounds like Saul Alinsky does it not? Her Honesty and standards are what the left fears and the more they target her the better she shows the differences between the lefts views and conservative views.


22 posted on 12/05/2009 10:11:43 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: ikeonic

The birth certificate must be a big deal to Moran and the losers who think the issue is settled, because they can’t drop it, and they can’t make themselves ask the only serious questions journalists should ask about this: Why won’t Obamao make it public? What is he hiding? What’s the big deal with showing the world his birth certificate and the surrounding documents? Why on earth would anyone hide that sort of thing? But no, the losers continue to run interference for their favorite Marxist. Sarah scares these creeps.


23 posted on 12/05/2009 10:11:55 AM PST by pallis
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To: ikeonic
...she is now going to force every GOP candidate for the House and Senate to come out and declare whether they are birther nuts or not.

Well, they had better take a crash course in conviction then and take an honest stand politically once and for all.

Good for Sarah!

24 posted on 12/05/2009 10:12:46 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ikeonic
wouldn't she be subject to tons more phony charges by the vast left wing conspiracy?

Yes, but as President she wouldn't be liable to "ethics violations."

How long before she'd have to resign as President?

Never. Her prior resignation before Governor was also valid too. We all know what happened after that - she won the Governorship.

Or do you believe as President she could vanquish all the liberals once and for all?

She vanquished corrupt Republicans in Alaska, so it reasons that she'll do the same with Democrats/RINOs.

You can't say it was a barrage phony charges that forced her to resign as governor in one breath and then in another breath say she could handle the job pressures of the Presidency.

Governor and President are two separate things, skippy.
It's a completely illogical argument

Only to those who haven't read her book where she spells the facts out:

(From page 353 of "Going Rogue" -

The FOIAs were fishing expeditions - just attempts to see what could be seen, then pick it over to see if something, anything, might generate another story. Meanwhile, opponents filed many baseless ethics complaints and lawsuits against me. Combined with the FOIAs, the sheer volume of paperwork and legally required responses brough the business of governing the State of Alaska to a grinding halt. Eventually, it overwhelmed us - and was obviously meant to.

but then again, I'm not used to hearing many original logical arguments from Palin supporters these days.

But you've already have your conclusions of Palin. So what good would logical arguments do then?

25 posted on 12/05/2009 10:12:50 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Maybe when you're older you will understand these matters.

Yes, maybe when I'm older Palin can teach me how the 9/11 Truthers and other conspiracy theorists are just asking questions and are completely legitimate and don't need to be disavowed by responsible politicians. Yup, in time I'll come around to Palin's point of view that's they're just "asking questions".

There's nothing at all Reaganesque about Palin trumpeting her victimhood and refusing to condemn the birthers for what they are: seriously deluded and misguided people whose buttons are stuck on stupid because their hatred for Obama won't let them accept a simple fact or at least admit that it's highly irrelevant and serves no purpose. The Birthers are just as stoopid as the liberals who insisted that Bush should be impeached for war crimes.

26 posted on 12/05/2009 10:13:17 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic
She didn’t say what any rational person on the right or left believes: that questions about the president’s birth have been settled by the state of Hawaii, that only a very small group of citizens are even concerned about the issue...

I love the total utter stupidity of written statements like this! IF the state of Hawaii "settled" this matter could at least one of these "rational" people please tell us "irrational" people what hospital is listed on Barack's birth record and the citizenship of his parents on said birth record?

If wanting to know what hospital is provided on Barack's birth record is irrational please explain! As of today the state of Hawaii and Barack Hussein Obama have refused to divulge that bit of information.

27 posted on 12/05/2009 10:13:30 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: ikeonic

Perhaps you could point us to an actual federal statute and procedure that allows what was done to her as governor to be done to a U.S. President. Why don’t you enlighten us, since you are so knowledgeable. On the other hand you may expose yourself.


28 posted on 12/05/2009 10:14:55 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: ikeonic
Well your 1st mistake was to quote that manic depressant clown Moran. I take it you are another faux Conservative babbling fool like Moran, Brooks and Frum?

Maybe fake media Conservatives should not be so quick to fall for what ever spin the junk media spews out about Palin.

Find it amusing that no matter how many times the Leftist media lies to them, a certain sort of “Conservative” will still buy their every words as gospel truth rather take anything they print with a massive grain of salt. This article is total BS.

As usual, the Junk Media attacked her, she corrected their misstatements about her position and they attack her for “Flip flopping” when she did no such thing. She merely corrected THEIR misstatements about what she said.

She merely pointed out that if it is ok for the Left to question her on Trig’s birth certificate, it is ok for others to question Obama on his. She did not demand anything of Obama or “join the birther movement as this fraud of a “journalist” is trying to claim.

Her statements on this issue are completely consistent, the Democrat party hack pretending to be a “journalist” at US News who is pushing this lie should be fired for journalistic fraud.

He is deliberately lying about what she said by placing his own interpenetration on her words rather then factually reporting them, he then misrepresenting her response as being something completely different from what she actually said.

29 posted on 12/05/2009 10:15:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: ikeonic

When Palin becomes President all the liberals (and rinos) heads will EXPLODE-! Can’t WAIT-!!


30 posted on 12/05/2009 10:20:08 AM PST by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: ikeonic
Yes, maybe when I'm older Palin can teach me how the 9/11 Truthers and other conspiracy theorists are just asking questions and are completely legitimate and don't need to be disavowed by responsible politicians.

Palin is supposed to suppress Americans' 1st Amendment rights?
I'm all for 9/11 Truthers to protest in the streets and make fools out of themselves to the majority who believes otherwise.
If people want to question Obama's birth who is Palin to judge? That's all she's basically saying.

31 posted on 12/05/2009 10:20:22 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Her statements on this issue are completely consistent,...

That is the greatest reason for such disdain for Sarah Palin from BOTH the right and left political entities.

Excellent read MN!

32 posted on 12/05/2009 10:20:27 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: missnry

.... Or the name of the health care professional who delivered the man-child. How many gifts have been offered to the hospital, whatever it is, in honor of the doctor, whoever he/she is . . . but can’t be given because the information is secret?


33 posted on 12/05/2009 10:20:32 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: ikeonic
I always preferred Pawlenty...

Well at least you were man enough to disclose your agenda. Most Palin critics won't.

34 posted on 12/05/2009 10:24:31 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: jessduntno
You are an idiot...she was being personally attacked and sued and immobilized by aholes like you and she did not have the resources to defend herself...she was PERSONALLY in debt up to her neck and couldn’t cope financially with the debt or the time consuming task of trying to deal with the liberal onslaught with no money...after her book tour and after hell freezes over and she is elected, the resources will be there...just how stupid are you? As for “vanquishinmg” you liberals, that won’t be necessary; you are doing a fine job of it yourselves...

Again, if her solution to her problems as governor was to RESIGN and QUIT, then how will she deal with the far greater level of smears and attacks if she is elected PRESIDENT?

Further, if any Democrat (or RINO) resigned as governor of their state, then made all the excuses Sarah is making and then ran for President in 2012, then all you Palinistas would be the first to jump their case for quitting as governor. But your blind passionate support for Palin won't let you see the handwriting on the wall. She is a QUITTER and a whiny victim, plain and simple. Throwing a "Going Rogue" bumper sticker on that bus doesn't change the fact that she quit and abandoned Alaska.

Side note: I'm also a Jindal supporter and wish he'd resign as governor and Go ROUGE.. as in Baton Rouge. But hey, I guess that resigning trick only works for true rogues like Palin.

35 posted on 12/05/2009 10:26:04 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic

I could produce my birth certificate in 2 minutes. Why is it so hard for our dear leader to do the same? Why is he spending millions to hide and distort every fact of his life? What is he hiding?

Call us birthers (or right-wing nuts) if you will, but something stinks in DC. As he continues to destroy the economy and hides his past, the more curious the population will become.


36 posted on 12/05/2009 10:26:07 AM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: ikeonic
What the eff is your problem, Mr Nobody? Can she be any worse than that Manchurian lightweight with no useful experience that sits in the White House?

She has a compelling life story, she has governmental experience, she was a very popular governor, she has charisma. She has never gaffed like Obamot has virtually every week, yet here you are, shoving some innocuous comments down her throat.. What a numbnutz tool you are.

37 posted on 12/05/2009 10:26:17 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: MNJohnnie
My sentiments Exactly (Almost)

I'm not quite ready to completely trash this fine woman, but the same thing that makes her so refreshing as a politician also makes her vulnerable.

The birth certificate, rightly or wrongly, has been painted a kook fringe issue. There is no upside for a politician to discuss it.

The thing that make me most uncomfortable is the whole hero worship aspect. It's become the flip side of Obama worship.

38 posted on 12/05/2009 10:26:33 AM PST by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: fhayek; ikeonic
Would anyone like to LIST those supposed McCain accomplishments in the Senate?

Good candidate for Mayor of Wasilla?

She was America's most popular Governor before the VP pick.

Alaskans think she did a great job as Governor.

I don't get the “quitter” argument that she was somehow SO ESSENTIAL as Governor that her letting her LT Governor take over was a betrayal of the voters:and also that by quitting, she showed she was too incompetent to be President.

Either she was essential as Governor or not.

Either she did a good job as Governor or she didn't.

I don't think most Alaskan voters feel let down that she made herself a national presence instead of serving out the last year and a half of her term.

39 posted on 12/05/2009 10:26:36 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: ikeonic
You're a brave man, ikeonic. Sorry MNJohnnie, I disagree with you. I posted to you instead of ikeonic by accident

My sentiments Exactly (Almost)

I'm not quite ready to completely trash this fine woman, but the same thing that makes her so refreshing as a politician also makes her vulnerable.

The birth certificate, rightly or wrongly, has been painted a kook fringe issue. There is no upside for a politician to discuss it.

The thing that make me most uncomfortable is the whole hero worship aspect. It's become the flip side of Obama worship.

40 posted on 12/05/2009 10:29:56 AM PST by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: All
I vote


41 posted on 12/05/2009 10:32:07 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: AmericanVictory
Perhaps you could point us to an actual federal statute and procedure that allows what was done to her as governor to be done to a U.S. President.

Conversely, maybe you'd like to show me the federal statutes that prohibit what she says was done to her as governor...

I'm sure the Clintons would be intrigued to know what protections they had. If you think Clinton was hounded during his Presidency, to listen to Palin she'll be hounded exponentially more if she's elected President. Listening to her talk, I have no reason to believe she'd be able to govern because she'd spend her entire Presidency fighting phony lawsuits and other attacks.

42 posted on 12/05/2009 10:32:50 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: 50mm

ZOT worthy?


43 posted on 12/05/2009 10:37:33 AM PST by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: ikeonic

after her book tour and after hell freezes over and she is elected, the resources will be there...just how stupid are you?


44 posted on 12/05/2009 10:37:35 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: foutsc
It is not hero worship, it is a rational defense against this sort of rabid, irrational, personal attack politics.

Read the 1st 3 paragraphs. This author is not making a single rational argument against Palin, he merely is attacking her on a personal level simply because he does not like her.

It the exact same sort of gutter slime attack dog posting you see on Leftist blogs. I expect much better of anyone trying to claim the "Conservative" label.

If he dropped the invective and made a calm, factual, reasoned case for his views, I might take him seriously. Unfortunately he seems incapable of such rational debate tactics.

45 posted on 12/05/2009 10:37:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: ikeonic
Again, if her solution to her problems as governor was to RESIGN and QUIT, then how will she deal with the far greater level of smears and attacks if she is elected PRESIDENT?

Typical Palin basher.
You conveniently ignore the responses on this thread that factually explained her decision to resign, INCLUDING A QUOTE FROM HER BOOK, but you keep repeating the "quitter" meme. The old repeat a lie often enough BS. You're not going to change anyone's minds here.

Further, if any Democrat (or RINO) resigned as governor of their state, then made all the excuses Sarah is making and then ran for President in 2012, then all you Palinistas would be the first to jump their case for quitting as governor.

It depends on the circumstances. ROFL

But your blind passionate support for Palin won't let you see the handwriting on the wall. She is a QUITTER and a whiny victim, plain and simple. Throwing a "Going Rogue" bumper sticker on that bus doesn't change the fact that she quit and abandoned Alaska.

Even if she did "quit" and "abandoned Alaska", you wouldn't support her anyway. She would have been buried alive in those frivolous ethics charges and by the time 2010 rolled around, you and the rest of the establishment would be saying "See, she's scandal-plagued! She can't run a state without being sued!" I'm glad she quit and she's had a far greater impact than had she stayed in Juneau. So go get bent

Side note: I'm also a Jindal supporter

I don't give a damn who you support because your credibility is undermined by bashing the only Republican who is actively working to defeat Obama's agenda.

46 posted on 12/05/2009 10:38:11 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: ikeonic

Hey ikeonic, you are a Rino at best.

We don’t need your liberal opinion.


49 posted on 12/05/2009 10:42:40 AM PST by CalTexan
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To: foutsc
The thing that make me most uncomfortable is the whole hero worship aspect.

There is no "worshiping" of Sarah.
Conservatives finally see someone like us who is out there fighting to prevent America from turning into a 3rd world dumpster. Is it not OK for us to cheer her on and join her in battle?
If everyone supported their favorite candidate, then the worshiping label should also apply. That includes supporters of Pawlenty, Romney, etc.
I supposed conservatives in 1980 were worshiping Reagan too?

50 posted on 12/05/2009 10:42:46 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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