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Slandering the President (Jesuit Priest upset at Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh)
America Magazine via Ripenet ^ | NOVEMBER 23, 2009 | Fr. John F. Kavanaugh, S.J.

Posted on 12/05/2009 10:51:09 AM PST by Coleus

Slandering the President
John F. Kavanaugh S.J. | NOVEMBER 23, 2009
America Magazine

On Oct. 29 Glenn Beck ended his program on Fox TV with the words of Thomas Jefferson: “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” Beck himself certainly has not been silent. In lectures, best-selling books, a radio program and his television show, he has warned America of the coming tyranny under a conspiratorial president. Armed with videos and quotations ranging from the mindless and amoral behavior of some members of Acorn to reckless statements made by associates and appointees of President Obama, Beck connects dots to draw a web of radicals who are out to destroy America as the founders intended it.

The exposing of unethical practices or foolish statements as well as reasoned critique of health, economic and international policies are essential to our civil discourse. I, for one, am troubled by the administration’s policy in Afghanistan, its reliance on many of the financial wizards who led us into our present mess and its disorganized, sometimes tepid approach to health care reform.      

But defamation by innuendo is something else. Glenn Beck and his radio twin, Rush Limbaugh, have since the president’s inauguration imputed tyrannical intentions to the man. Whether inflating episodes such as children singing a song about Mr. Obama, claiming that the president is a racist with a “deep-seated hatred of white people and white culture” or characterizing “Obama’s America” as an offspring of Maoism or Nazism, Beck and Limbaugh are stoking a fire of fear and anger against the president of the United States.  If you search the Internet for the phrase “Obama is…,” the top six possibilities offered are, “antichrist,” “idiot,” “racist,” “liar,” “Hitler,” “socialist.” A search for “Obama” and “destroying America” yields 719,000 sites.

Obama the destroyer has been a recent theme of Limbaugh. On June 4, Newsmax.com (a news partner of The Washington Times) reported that Rush Limbaugh, on the previous night’s news, told Sean Hannity that “like Osama Bin Laden, the president is trying to destroy America.” What Limbaugh really said was, “If Al Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they’d better hurry because Obama is beating them to it.” In an “On the Record” interview with Fox’s Greta Van Susteren on July 23 and 24, Limbaugh claimed that the president, who is “purposely destroying the economy,” wants “as little liberty and freedom as possible” for the American people. He wants to determine who is born and when we die. Bent on remaking the country, the president is allegedly causing joblessness on purpose. After saying that the “greatness of this country’s people is under assault,” Limbaugh concludes that the president “has contempt for the American people.”

As if that were not enough, on Nov. 1 “Fox News Sunday” gave Limbaugh 30 minutes to lob unchallenged assertions that Mr. Obama is an immature narcissist, an extreme radical intent on destroying the economy.  We have here the suggested embodiment of Glenn Beck’s tyrant, a president who wants to destroy America and its economy and to seize total control over our lives. These accusations should not be passed off as the musings of crackpots or satirical entertainers. No matter what the motives behind this demonizing, the act amounts to the highest of slanders. Limbaugh professes how much he loves this country, a Christian country, he insists. But does he realize that the Christian tradition holds calumny to be a serious sin?

Slander has emerged as a new genre for the Internet. I’m sure I am not the only one receiving “forward it on” e-mails from people alarmed at the coming downfall of our country, often with allusions to Hitler as a precursor to our present president.

Whatever our political leanings or fears for the future may be, let us hope that there is not someone out there who, having been seduced by slanderous innuendo, really thinks Barack Obama is as bad as Bin Laden and as tyrannical as Hitler. It is painful to consider what could happen in the face of such imagined tyranny. And let us pray that such actions are not inspired by John Wilkes Booth or Timothy McVeigh, with their shared motto, “sic semper tyrannis.” If a terrible assault on the president should occur, will Christians who advanced the slander of him be contrite? And will those of us who were silent be shamed?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: america; americamagazine; catholic; foxnews; glennbeck; jesuit; newsmax; rushlimbaugh; talkradion
The frustrated liberal democrat can't stand that conservatives are getting their message out about 0bama and the democrats.   He wasn't fair and balanced when reporting about FOX and not CNN where they have given the democrats the bully pulpit for decades.  Where was Fr. Cavanaugh when President Bush was being slandered for 8 years?  Notice that the priest must watch FOX, Glenn Beck, reads Newmax and listens to Rush.

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it's all political

1 posted on 12/05/2009 10:51:10 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

This clown should be fired by the Church. Neither have ever slandered Dear Reader. A Priest who willingly lies to push a political agenda is unfit for his office.


2 posted on 12/05/2009 10:55:51 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: Coleus

This feeling liberal is content to condemn the condemnation of his President. He is content in the continuation of murder of untold millions of tiny souls and the addition of older souls who’ve outlived their usefulness to the ideological ideal fantasy liberal society. He is content in the possible subjugation of millions of unwilling Americans. He can go to Hell straightaway for all I care. He is no man of God.


3 posted on 12/05/2009 10:56:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Coleus

H00boy! Fr. John F. Kavanaugh, S.J. is a true believer.

Take a look around Johnboy. The idiots at the hem have no idea how to pilot a ship.

Captain Obama is having a party on the stern and has a few neophyte chicago goons at the wheel.


4 posted on 12/05/2009 11:08:10 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Coleus

It’s from AMERICA magazine. That should be all you need to know.


5 posted on 12/05/2009 11:10:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Coleus

You can tell how far this country has fallen into the sewer when a priest feels that it is his job to join the Marxist/Commie attack on conservative talk radio.


6 posted on 12/05/2009 11:10:45 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that hopey changey "diversity" thing workin' out for ya?)
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Whats just eating Kavenaghs lunch is the idea that Obama is doing this on PURPOSE.


7 posted on 12/05/2009 11:12:25 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Coleus

I’m more than disappointed in this Priest.


8 posted on 12/05/2009 11:14:10 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Coleus
Have you ever met a Jesuit priest that was not part of the radical left? It was not that long ago that Pope John Paul almost shut the order down. They were radical proponents of liberation theology in South America. They were actually making terrorists into saints. Where were the Jesuits for the eight years when Bush was POTUS?
9 posted on 12/05/2009 11:26:40 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: trisham
This guy is no Bishop Tobin. In fact he is more like Father Andrew Greeley or Michael Phleger. Hardly stellar examples of righteous priests who are sorely needed in today's world.
10 posted on 12/05/2009 11:28:15 AM PST by princeofdarkness ("Obama Lied. Liberty, Morality, and Prosperity Died.")
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To: trisham

Why are you surprised? He is a Jesuit. Throughout the history of this order, which for more than a few years was supressed by the Vatican, many of their priests have been out in left field and have been very anti-Vatican. No surprise here.


11 posted on 12/05/2009 11:29:23 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: princeofdarkness

Thank God for Bishop Tobin.


12 posted on 12/05/2009 11:31:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CdMGuy

I’m not surprised, just very disappointed.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 11:31:42 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Coleus

“…fears for the future may be…” welllll ahhhh, YES, since Congress is in one the game or has decided to sit out their responsibilities as bystanders to an accident they have created; the citizenry will eliminate each Constitutional dichotomy.

Other than that, Fr. John F. Kavanaugh, S.J. is just another useful idiot and most likely a butt-boy for the left.


14 posted on 12/05/2009 11:34:13 AM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Coleus

“If Al Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they’d better hurry because Obama is beating them to it.”

On this, the putz is correct.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 11:35:18 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: Coleus
Go back to touching altar boys, Father Commielove.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

16 posted on 12/05/2009 11:37:42 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Gator113

He was quoting Rush, I believe.


17 posted on 12/05/2009 11:40:46 AM PST by John W (The more predictable we are, the more vulnerable we are.)
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To: Coleus

Just another worthless Liberal Jesuit. The priest should be isolated from young boys.


18 posted on 12/05/2009 11:44:09 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: Nosterrex

“Have you ever met a Jesuit priest that was not part of the radical left?”

Yes. He is in the New York Province, and usually explains himself as “Yes, I’m the conservative Jesuit in New York.”

I have a funny story about him. When our son was invited for an admissions interview at an all-scholarship Jesuit high school in NYC, I asked him if he was ready to discuss a favorite book with the interviewer.

He said, “Yeah,Dad, it’s called ‘Marine Sniper’ it’s the story of GySgt Carlos Hathcock.”

I said, “Whoa! The Jesuits are a bunch of lefties - can’t you discuss some other book?” (He chose something else.)

Recounting this story to the Jesuit in question, he started laughing and said, “’Marine Sniper’? That’s one of my favorite books!” He then grabbed it off his bookshelf to show me.

However, I’m afraid he is the exception that proves the rule:

Q. Why are the Jesuits periodically suppressed by the Pope?

A. Because they need it.


19 posted on 12/05/2009 11:46:01 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Coleus

There is an interesting dialogue starting there, many of you know one of the posters well!


20 posted on 12/05/2009 1:22:37 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: bmwcyle

why are you turning this into a Catholic-bashing thread.


21 posted on 12/05/2009 1:58:33 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus
But defamation by innuendo is something else. Glenn Beck and his radio twin, Rush Limbaugh, have since the president’s inauguration imputed tyrannical intentions to the man. Whether inflating episodes such as children singing a song about Mr. Obama, claiming that the president is a racist with a “deep-seated hatred of white people and white culture” or characterizing “Obama’s America” as an offspring of Maoism or Nazism, Beck and Limbaugh are stoking a fire of fear and anger against the president of the United States. If you search the Internet for the phrase “Obama is…,” the top six possibilities offered are, “antichrist,” “idiot,” “racist,” “liar,” “Hitler,” “socialist.” A search for “Obama” and “destroying America” yields 719,000 sites.

There is a profoundly important reason why religion and secular government must be kept separate. This silly, naive view of reality is a great example.

Before continuing, let me state that most of my education was Jesuit induced, and I shall be grateful to my dying day for the gift of critical thinking, reasoning, and courage that I learned from so many teachers I shall always remember.

This "priest" is not one of them. Fortunately.

To return to the paragraph I quote above, my overall reaction is, "if the shoe fits --- wear it."

From the beginning, the meaningless word, "change." gave the banal nature of this man away. Cancer is change. The sort of change that we have seen so far is all destructive, thoughtless and oppresive, to all but the parasites of society. Certainly not the ones who matter, and upon whom the continued health of our society depends : Hard working, Middle Class Americans.

The continued devastation of our economy, both actively and passively, has caused damage that must persist for a generation if we're lucky, several generations if we're not.

This priest must have forgotten the meaning of Fascism, if he feels we have libeled Obama by painting him with that brush. Jesuits everywhere must be cringing. I can't think of a better example than the last ten months of the inept, inexperienced Obama administration.

Racism? respectfully, Fr. Kavanaugh, you are an idiot. This great "uniter" has shown every indicator of racism of the worst sort. The White House looks like a bling version of the acolytes of Idi Amin.
I'll make it easy for you.

Show me one instance of Obama defending a white person not in his administration, or its supporting goon squads --- ISEU, ACORN, etc.

Just one.

If it walks like racism, talks like racism and quacks like racism...

By the way, I do not consider myself "white."

I have no idea what prompted you to write such a banal article.

A.M.D.G.

Respectfully,

Publius8961

22 posted on 12/05/2009 3:54:30 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Coleus

30 years on and Kavanaugh hasn’t changed. Ignore him.


23 posted on 12/05/2009 3:58:36 PM PST by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Nosterrex
Have you ever met a Jesuit priest that was not part of the radical left?

Yes I have.
I was educated by sevral dozen of them.
And I never felt the pressure of leftism or rightism. Of course, my recent (last 30 years or so) exposure to my alma materes have suggested a marked list to port.

24 posted on 12/05/2009 3:59:08 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Coleus
why are you turning this into a Catholic-bashing thread.

Because it requires no thinking, and anyone can do it.

Cheap shots would be easy for me; but the worst experience I can recall is that one Jesuit was an alcoholic, 24/7; but in his defense, he was an excellent Geomery and Trig teacher, and that's what I remember.

Imagine that. A Jesuit priest with human failings.

25 posted on 12/05/2009 4:05:22 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Publius6961
I think that Catholic priests from any order can be found who are conflicted and perhaps confused about the differences between justice and charity and mercy. I have had two conversations over the years with priests who leaned socialist because they saw no injustice in requiring the productive person to supplement the resources of the deliberately unproductive person. Another priest from a foreign country was quite upset when I said that I could not reconcile his socialist attitude and behavior, which impacted on his pastoral decisions, with the fact that he had come from a country which he chose to leave because it had destroyed the very freedom he was now taking advantage of in America. I believe all of the priests were dedicated to their vocations and sincere in their spiritual lives but were ignorant of the political world which creates chaos and enmity among the population by means of pitting them against one another for the purpose of amassing power to themselves. Obama is the current face of the socialists who are engaged in doing whatever they can to overthrow this Republic which has sheltered the religions of the world. If these socialists thought they could get better results with a white person they would have gone that route. I am grateful for Rush, Beck, Hannity and many others who have endeavored to inform, educate, and alert the citizens of the USA to the ongoing war against our very existence as a free nation.
26 posted on 12/05/2009 4:51:42 PM PST by mountainfolk ( God bless America and our Republic.)
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To: mountainfolk

I know tons of right-wing Jesuits. One of them married my brother and sister-in-law. And, if you think that I’m a conservative, you should my brother and sister-in-law. Anyway, we were at the rehersal dinner for my brother’s weddding—I know, I know, like we don’t know how to eat—and someone mentioned Bin Laden, and the radical priest said that he would have no problem killing Bin Laden himself. But, there are tons of conservative and liberal priests.


27 posted on 12/05/2009 5:52:56 PM PST by gman992
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To: Coleus
Slander has emerged as a new genre for the Internet. I’m sure I am not the only one receiving “forward it on” e-mails from people alarmed at the coming downfall of our country, often with allusions to Hitler as a precursor to our present president.

Where was this clown from January 2001 through January 2009? One can only imagine.

28 posted on 12/05/2009 6:06:28 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Publius6961; Nosterrex
Have you ever met a Jesuit priest that was not part of the radical left?

Fr. Robert Spitzer is one of the more orthodox priests I have seen on EWTN; he's conducted many series on ethics, suffering and proving the existence of God.

29 posted on 12/05/2009 8:04:12 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus
I do not doubt that if you looked long enough you can find one, but the order as a general rule is very radical left. Maybe after the Pope gave them a swift kick in the arse they have changed, and I hope that is true.
30 posted on 12/06/2009 5:32:02 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

Back in 1981, Pope John Paul II, appointed a more orthodox priest to be the leader of the Jesuits.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922654,00.html

And a few yrs. ago Pope Benedict xvi fired the editor of America Magazine for his liberal catholic views that went against church teachings.

It’s going to take a generation or two to clean things up; there are still many, many liberal priests around from the old school and this order as well as a few others, draw the liberals in.


31 posted on 12/06/2009 12:59:55 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus

I’m real glad I saw this.

Better late than never... i’ll take care of this one in person.


32 posted on 12/16/2009 5:38:36 PM PST by AliVeritas ( Pray folks. Psalm 109:8)
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