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The Chinese Are Stealing Our Jobs
framingthedialogue.com ^ | December 3, 2009 | ghblog

Posted on 12/05/2009 11:43:35 AM PST by Ghblog

“U.S. elected officials accused China on Tuesday of stealing American jobs.” I was trying to visualize how the Chinese snuck over and stole these jobs. They would certainly have used the largely unprotected southern border with Mexico to take the jobs, but how did they transport the jobs?

The “U.S official” turns out to be Pennsylvania’s Gov. Ed Rendell who is an expert in jobs losses as he has lead Pennsylania from 5.5% unemployment when he was first elected in 2002 to a whopping 9.5% today (data available through September 2009). Playing on our fears about job losses and a terrible economy, Rendell equates the fact that the Chinese are able to sell steel pipe to Americans cheaper than it can be made here with job theft.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: economics; rendell; tariff; unions

1 posted on 12/05/2009 11:43:35 AM PST by Ghblog
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To: Ghblog
The Chinese Are Stealing Our Jobs

We need to get them back so we can tax it away from our producers instead of borrowing it from the Chinese!

2 posted on 12/05/2009 11:51:26 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Ghblog

Sorry but WTF is Rendell talking about? those steel jobs have been gone for 30 years.

Back in the 70s when I was in the business South Korea was producing all the steel.

Bethlehem steel tanked a looooong time ago.


3 posted on 12/05/2009 11:51:32 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: EGPWS

"They took 'er jerbs!"

4 posted on 12/05/2009 11:52:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ghblog

Oh, and I will never forget the day I was rejected from an application to Republic steel back in the 70’s because I wasnt Black


5 posted on 12/05/2009 11:53:41 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dfwgator

Durker Durrr!


6 posted on 12/05/2009 11:54:08 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ghblog
I was trying to visualize how the Chinese snuck over and stole these jobs. They would certainly have used the largely unprotected southern border with Mexico to take the jobs, but how did they transport the jobs?

This guy is either a moron or is simply being willfully ignorant of how globalization works — that manufacturing jobs are "lost" when factories move overseas. No sneaking over the border necessary.
7 posted on 12/05/2009 12:00:53 PM PST by fours
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To: Ghblog
Interesting article, I think American companies did not let the Chinese steal jobs but rather gave them the jobs willingly. Corporations are set up to return profits to their shareholders, all else is extraneous. The people in charge of various companies did what they had to do and created a better life for themselves in the process. Actually producing something was pointless if you could have someone else make it cheaper and stick your logo on it. It does have a tendency to sometimes bite them in the long run for the Chinese tend to pay attention when you show them how to produce something they will go and produce it in competition. Maybe American workers do not deserve to have a decent standard of living due to some innate flaw in our society. I do know that in the end we become dependent on foreign goods because we no longer are able to afford shoes, clothes and other goods we produce ourselves. In any case the ship sailed some time ago and politicians are often flies using the decaying remains of American manufacturing for their own purposes. There are the few manufactures with character who chose community, pride and other values over profit. Now that we are faced with the problem the question remains what to do about it.
8 posted on 12/05/2009 12:11:59 PM PST by dog breath
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To: Ghblog

“They TOOK UR JURBSSSS!”


9 posted on 12/05/2009 12:12:39 PM PST by max americana (i)
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To: Ghblog
The democrats are so enamored with themselves that they can't believe that they are the ones that caused the jobs to leave.
10 posted on 12/05/2009 12:17:35 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Ghblog

I’m always looking for Americans who will raise their children to work in factories if the manufacturing companies come back.


11 posted on 12/05/2009 12:19:04 PM PST by diefree
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To: EGPWS

If you want to prevent manufacturing jobs from moving to China there is a simple way. Build oil refineries and drill for oil.


12 posted on 12/05/2009 12:21:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: mountainlion

Reagan cut their (American steel) taxes by half, Clinton denied them bankruptcy protections then gave Chinese steel a half trillion dollars in loan guarantees.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 12:22:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: dog breath
Now that we are faced with the problem the question remains what to do about it.

Exactly. And the thing NOT to do is reduce trade, erect barriers to trade, or back from from free trade expansion, as not only most liberals, but some economic populists here on FR, would council.

The fact is that the availability of cheaper and/or better quality foreign products is one of the few things inhibiting growing government from yet further increasing the cost of doing business. So, as well as driving capital from less to more efficient, productive and profitable uses, free trade also provides an important aid and argument to protecting our liberties and limiting government growth and power.

14 posted on 12/05/2009 12:23:23 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Brilliant
If you want to prevent manufacturing jobs from moving to China there is a simple way. Build oil refineries and drill for oil.

That should certainly help. At least as I'm given to understand, energy cost is a much higher percentage of total cost in manufacturing, compared to most other economic sectors.

15 posted on 12/05/2009 12:27:32 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Ghblog

If you don’t need it or can get by without it and you know for sure China made it....don’t buy it.


16 posted on 12/05/2009 12:28:03 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: cripplecreek
Do you remember the radioactive rebar that came form Mexico?
17 posted on 12/05/2009 12:33:57 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: diefree
I’m always looking for Americans who will raise their children to work in factories if the manufacturing companies come back.

What a stupid statement, manufacturing engineering is a fine and proud profession. I practiced it for many a year, before the MBA class like you decided that getting your hands dirty was "icky".

You probably hold the same attitude about sex.

18 posted on 12/05/2009 12:36:43 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: Ghblog

19 posted on 12/05/2009 12:44:25 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: mountainlion

I don’t remember that particular case but between Mexico and China, the crap imports just kind of merge into a steady flow after a while.


20 posted on 12/05/2009 12:46:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Ghblog

They are not stealing them, we gave them away. That is why this will be a jobless “recovery” here.

There will be a job recovery in China, unfortunately we can not collect federal income tax on foreign workers that now have those jobs


21 posted on 12/05/2009 12:54:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Ghblog

Don’t blame the Chinese, blame our duma$$ “leaders”! Why should anyone expect the Chinese not to take advantage of a windfall?


22 posted on 12/05/2009 1:20:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Ghblog
Parsimony, and not industry, is the immediate cause of the increase of capital. Industry, indeed, provides the subject which parsimony accumulates. But whatever industry might acquire, if parsimony did not save and store up, the capital would never be the greater.

Adam Smith
The Wealth of Nations, Book II, Chapter III

Or,
The path to wealth is through industry and frugality
Work hard, live simply

This is the answer we need
Give more of ourselves in task, and
living more simply

23 posted on 12/05/2009 1:48:16 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Stultis

Its not just energy. Plastics and rubber are made from oil. Most chemicals are derived from oil. Manufacturing jobs congregate around oil refineries.


24 posted on 12/05/2009 1:52:20 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Ghblog

25 posted on 12/05/2009 1:53:18 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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