Posted on 12/07/2009 5:46:35 AM PST by formosa
This is for discussion and ideas of what to do about impending coersed healthcare (cap and trade can be added as well). We must co-ordinate with other organizations and websites to take actions necessary to kill this bill.
The News does not report the publics contempt for all the many dictatorial and life altering sections of this bill. As a matter of fact, not much of the public actually know what is in this beast. But we do know the vast majority of the public do not want it.
Some of my ideas are contacting The Chamber of Commerces across the country, the Small Business Association along with many web sites to create a strategy. Marches and phone calls don't seem to working. Also contacting doctors for the plan would work very strongly to our advantage as well.
We basically need to shut down as much of the country as possible (with the exceptions of emergency rooms). We either pay a small price now, or a much higher price later. The small businesses in this country will not last through the healthcare debacle, and then add cap and trade that may possibly be enforced through the EPA and we will see unemployment numbers like we have never seen before.
I've never attempted to organize anything like this and would love to have your suggustions and advice on how to make it happen.
An armed march on Washington DC would be a start. I would be willing to bet that 2 million armed citzens encircling the capitol would get more attention than the last march! Peacefully of course...
“the time is passed for thinking ...”
Now that should work out real well! ;-)
As a part of the Tea Party movement, I have a lot vested in this reassertion of my constitutional rights. So do millions of others. If we pinpoint a day and a particular action of civil disobediance, these folks will follow it. I agree that it needs to be a on a State level to inform the States that we will not bow down to federal encroachment.
I’m not calling for armed resistance. This is walking off the job as a way to show discontent that our most basic rights are being violated by a small group of individuals whose whishes are to treated as masters.
I have nothing against being armed but it is a last resort after all peaceful and rational means have been exhausted against the rule of tyrants.
That’s the point. Those you speak of rely on us for their existence. Without the rest of us they starve and die. They need to understand that no one is obligated to support them or cultural marxism. Just as no doctor is legally obligated to lend them support should they fall down or have a heart attack.
If you bring a gun to a fight someone is likely to be shot.
I agree with you 100%. My personal opinion (and I hate to sound like a nut, yet in the light of recent events) I believe the government allowed this to happen as a means to sow discontent and break down society. This is one of the ways cultural marxism works to destroy society so that they can rebuild their own little piece of hell.
“Create a strike fund for them, funded by concerned Americans.”
That would be millions and millions of dollars. This country utterly depends on truckers for everything!
I think WE have spent more time considering the plan the the authors of the plan have spent writing it.
There are less that 12 months to identify candidates to run and win in the elections next year. Why waste time in trying to organize a general strike which will only piss off everyone of ANY political persuasion and portray conservatives as crazier than the people we want to replace?
The bill is flat-out unconstitutional. Approach its passage from that angle.
Methinks the biggest under-recognized problem with it is the massive 4th Amendment violation: the feds will seize/coerce everyone’s PRIVATE health records, which currently they have no power/right to short of a warrant.
You want a “shutdown”? Get thousands of people to file injunctions against seizure of their health records. Smother the courts.
The remarkable thing about Solidarity was that it started with the unions. Here, our unions wouldn’t do something like that. Requires too much work and they would want to be paid for it.
There is nothing in the constitution at all that gives the right to even write a bill such as this. But in order to take it before the Supreme Court it has to pass. I feel we should let them know they should never even attempt to write a bill such as this again. We must take back our constitution now or they will continue these attempts each time our back is turned.
We’ve allowed it over and over and said nothing. I think the time has come to let them know that we are the ones whom the contitution was meant to protect. It was not written to give them unlimited power but to limit it. Plus one never knows how some fool without a copy of Webster’s might interpret that document.
Gas stations? Most gas stations are small businesses.
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