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Time for Civil Disobedience
formosa | 12/07/09 | Rebecca Wilson

Posted on 12/07/2009 5:46:35 AM PST by formosa

This is for discussion and ideas of what to do about impending coersed healthcare (cap and trade can be added as well). We must co-ordinate with other organizations and websites to take actions necessary to kill this bill.

The News does not report the publics contempt for all the many dictatorial and life altering sections of this bill. As a matter of fact, not much of the public actually know what is in this beast. But we do know the vast majority of the public do not want it.

Some of my ideas are contacting The Chamber of Commerces across the country, the Small Business Association along with many web sites to create a strategy. Marches and phone calls don't seem to working. Also contacting doctors for the plan would work very strongly to our advantage as well.

We basically need to shut down as much of the country as possible (with the exceptions of emergency rooms). We either pay a small price now, or a much higher price later. The small businesses in this country will not last through the healthcare debacle, and then add cap and trade that may possibly be enforced through the EPA and we will see unemployment numbers like we have never seen before.

I've never attempted to organize anything like this and would love to have your suggustions and advice on how to make it happen.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: action; civildisobedience; goverment; government; health; insurrection; nationalstrike; obamacare
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To: supremedoctrine
The Chamber of Commerce and the SBA must realize that it is to their advantage to go along. It's their constituents that will be most harmed by these policies. They need to be convinced of this or their members will leave in droves or go out of business. Just because they get government funding or buyoff’s now will no save them from nonexistence when businesses dry up.
21 posted on 12/07/2009 6:24:33 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: formosa

An armed march on Washington DC would be a start. I would be willing to bet that 2 million armed citzens encircling the capitol would get more attention than the last march! Peacefully of course...


22 posted on 12/07/2009 6:24:40 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: SMARTY

“the time is passed for thinking ...”

Now that should work out real well! ;-)


23 posted on 12/07/2009 6:26:52 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: SMARTY

As a part of the Tea Party movement, I have a lot vested in this reassertion of my constitutional rights. So do millions of others. If we pinpoint a day and a particular action of civil disobediance, these folks will follow it. I agree that it needs to be a on a State level to inform the States that we will not bow down to federal encroachment.


24 posted on 12/07/2009 6:27:45 AM PST by Vizbiz
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To: Amos the Prophet

I’m not calling for armed resistance. This is walking off the job as a way to show discontent that our most basic rights are being violated by a small group of individuals whose whishes are to treated as masters.


25 posted on 12/07/2009 6:29:02 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Errant

I have nothing against being armed but it is a last resort after all peaceful and rational means have been exhausted against the rule of tyrants.


26 posted on 12/07/2009 6:31:27 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: formosa
As I have stated for four years now all legal business’ should ban together and refuse to offer the IRS any information until all illegals are documented and audited.
27 posted on 12/07/2009 6:32:16 AM PST by jetson
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To: clintonh8r

That’s the point. Those you speak of rely on us for their existence. Without the rest of us they starve and die. They need to understand that no one is obligated to support them or cultural marxism. Just as no doctor is legally obligated to lend them support should they fall down or have a heart attack.


28 posted on 12/07/2009 6:35:30 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: formosa
It would be a peaceful demonstration. I'm not advocating violence only a demonstration of potential force and displeasure of our federal leaders continueing to overstep their mandate.
29 posted on 12/07/2009 6:37:15 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: Errant

If you bring a gun to a fight someone is likely to be shot.


30 posted on 12/07/2009 6:40:15 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: jetson

I agree with you 100%. My personal opinion (and I hate to sound like a nut, yet in the light of recent events) I believe the government allowed this to happen as a means to sow discontent and break down society. This is one of the ways cultural marxism works to destroy society so that they can rebuild their own little piece of hell.


31 posted on 12/07/2009 6:44:03 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: flying_bullet

“Create a strike fund for them, funded by concerned Americans.”

That would be millions and millions of dollars. This country utterly depends on truckers for everything!


32 posted on 12/07/2009 6:45:22 AM PST by vanilla swirl (Maranatha!)
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To: 1776 Reborn
In a CAREFUL reading of the statement, you would see I mean that Conservatives have engaged themselves in MORE than ample consideration of the facts and reflected for many weeks on the information provided to us on this issue.

I think WE have spent more time considering the plan the the authors of the plan have spent writing it.

33 posted on 12/07/2009 6:47:55 AM PST by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: Amos the Prophet
An armed society demonstration is a polite society demonstration. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein
34 posted on 12/07/2009 6:48:47 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: SMARTY

There are less that 12 months to identify candidates to run and win in the elections next year. Why waste time in trying to organize a general strike which will only piss off everyone of ANY political persuasion and portray conservatives as crazier than the people we want to replace?


35 posted on 12/07/2009 6:53:47 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: formosa

The bill is flat-out unconstitutional. Approach its passage from that angle.

Methinks the biggest under-recognized problem with it is the massive 4th Amendment violation: the feds will seize/coerce everyone’s PRIVATE health records, which currently they have no power/right to short of a warrant.

You want a “shutdown”? Get thousands of people to file injunctions against seizure of their health records. Smother the courts.


36 posted on 12/07/2009 6:58:53 AM PST by ctdonath2 (It from fit.)
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To: ctdonath2
Smother the courts.

One of the first things our politicians cut for budget reasons was was the judicial system. Think about it................
37 posted on 12/07/2009 7:02:10 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: SMARTY

The remarkable thing about Solidarity was that it started with the unions. Here, our unions wouldn’t do something like that. Requires too much work and they would want to be paid for it.


38 posted on 12/07/2009 7:11:22 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: ctdonath2

There is nothing in the constitution at all that gives the right to even write a bill such as this. But in order to take it before the Supreme Court it has to pass. I feel we should let them know they should never even attempt to write a bill such as this again. We must take back our constitution now or they will continue these attempts each time our back is turned.

We’ve allowed it over and over and said nothing. I think the time has come to let them know that we are the ones whom the contitution was meant to protect. It was not written to give them unlimited power but to limit it. Plus one never knows how some fool without a copy of Webster’s might interpret that document.


39 posted on 12/07/2009 7:11:29 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: 1776 Reborn

Gas stations? Most gas stations are small businesses.


40 posted on 12/07/2009 7:15:42 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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