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Source doc: EPA's Factual Finding & Tech docs on Greenhouse Gases
The Patriot Room ^ | December 7, 2009 | Clyde Middleton

Posted on 12/07/2009 4:19:16 PM PST by clyde_m

284 pages of fiction through which Obama will try to change the face of America. Oh joy. The 200+ page document beneath is the technical support document.

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoenvironment; bhoepa; climatecontrol; epa; warmists

1 posted on 12/07/2009 4:19:16 PM PST by clyde_m
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To: clyde_m; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; ...

Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/07/2009 4:20:13 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: clyde_m
What greenhouse warming?

No Smoking Hot Spot

1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

3 posted on 12/07/2009 4:24:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: clyde_m
The Administrator references materials produced by IPCC ~ which is part of the "Climategate" fraud.


Seems the old moonbat is unaware of the current reality.

4 posted on 12/07/2009 4:25:11 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: clyde_m

Who needs facts when we have emotion ? The debate is over because it never started !

5 posted on 12/07/2009 4:27:30 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: clyde_m

Well, so no one will do a thing about it. We are actually expeiencing what is is to stand by as a loved one is raped.

You know, we have all been conditioned to react this way.

6 posted on 12/07/2009 4:28:32 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: clyde_m
This document is a fraud because it is based on completely fraudulent data and premises.

We are too lazy and timid to stand up and stop this. It should be stopped by almost any means but we do not have the guts nor the number to do so and the leftists know it.

With this regulation the Government can now say that each human is a polluter, tax us, and also regulate how many children we have.

If you think I am crazy, just watch and listen to the leftists and their politicians.

7 posted on 12/07/2009 4:40:18 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: clyde_m

“Regulations” can be litigated, and will be. As with any so called, “climate treaty”, we will never allow them to go into effect.


CEI Will File Suit to Block EPA Endangerment Finding
by Christine Hall December 7, 2009

Global Warming Regulation Will Impose Economy-Crushing Regulations on the Basis of Ever-Shoddier Science

Washington, DC, Dec. 7, 2009 –The Environmental Protection Agency today finalized its finding that greenhouse gas emissions endanger public health and welfare and therefore must be regulated under the Clean Air Act. CEI announced that it will file suit in federal court to overturn the endangerment finding on the grounds that EPA has ignored major scientific issues, including those raised recently in the Climategate fraud scandal.

“EPA is clinging for dear life to the notion that the global climate models are holding up,” said Sam Kazman, CEI General Counsel. “In reality, those models are about to sink under the growing weight of evidence that they are fabrications.”

“Today’s decision by EPA will trigger costly and time-consuming permitting requirements for tens of thousands of previously unregulated small businesses under the Clean Air Act,” said Marlo Lewis, CEI Senior Fellow. “A more potent Anti-Stimulus Package would be hard to imagine.

“The sensible solution,” said Lewis, “would be for Congress to pass legislation, such as that proposed by Rep. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee that would pre-empt the EPA from regulating carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions.”

EPA’s action today is in response to the Supreme Court’s 2007 decision in Massachusetts v. EPA that required EPA to consider whether greenhouse gases should be regulated under the Clean Air Act.


July 2, 2009
Senate May Pass U.S. Climate Bill, Reject Treaty, Kerry Says
By Jim Efstathiou Jr. and Daniel Whitten

....”Passing domestic climate-change legislation remains the most crucial step, Purvis said.


Ironically, The “EPA” came out and said “There are no findings that Co2 is dangerous to the environment...” Funny.... 6

Internal Memo Confirms EPA Regulation of CO2 Will Hurt Economy!
by Patriot-in-Chief on May 12, 2009 ·

ABC News Correspondent Jake Tapper is reporting on an internal Obama administration memo to the EPA. The memo is warning that regulation under the clean air act will damage the economy, especially small business and communities.

“That nine-page memo voices “a concern that EPA is making a finding based on (1) ‘harm’ from substances that have no demonstrated direct health effects, such as respiratory or toxic effects, (2) available scientific data that purports to conclusively establish the nature and extent of the adverse public health and welfare impacts are almost exclusively from non-EPA sources, and (3) applying a dramatically expanded precautionary principle.”
If the EPA goes forward with a finding of endangerment for all six greenhouse gases, the document warns, “it could be establishing a relaxed and expansive new standard for endangerment. Subsequently, EPA would be petitioned to find endangerment and regulate many other ‘pollutants’ for the sake of the precautionary principle (e.g., electromagnetic fields, perchlorates, endocrine disruptors, and noise).”

This is of course directly the opposite of the Obama administrations message to the public that Cap-and-Trade would be an economic boon to our country. Read the orignial memo here: EPA memo

More information on this whole ongoing scam can be found here.

Update: Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) blogs on the “Smoking Gun” memo at

Read it here.

Guest Blog: Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) Uncovers EPA Deception

Posted May 12th, 2009 at 3.39pm in Energy and Environment, Ongoing Priorities.
EPA Holds ‘Smoking Gun’ Memo from the White House
VIDEO at link
Today I exposed a “smoking gun” White House memo to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The memo warns that regulation of small CO2 emitters will have “serious economic consequences” for businesses and the overall economy. I was questioning EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson during the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee budget hearing.

I received the memo this morning, that’s marked ‘Deliberative: Attorney-Client Privilege’. In this memo Counsel for the White House repeatedly, repeatedly suggests a lack of scientific support for this proposed finding. This is a smoking gun, saying that the EPA findings were political and not scientific.

The EPA has failed to release the memo and has ignored the advice.

The nine-page White House memo undermines the EPA’s reasoning for a proposed finding that greenhouse gases are a danger to public health.

This misuse of the Clean Air Act will be a trigger for overwhelming regulation and lawsuits based on gases emitted from cars, schools, hospitals and small business. This will affect any number of other sources, including lawn mowers, snowmobiles and farms. This will be a disaster for the small businesses that drive America.

To quote from the memo to the EPA, “making the decision to regulate carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act for the first time is likely to have serious economic consequences for regulated entities throughout the US economy, including small businesses and small communities.”

The memo is an amalgamation of findings from government agencies’ sent from the Office of Management and Budget to the EPA.

This smoking gun memo is in stark contrast to the official position presented by the Administration and the EPA Administrator.

Despite the findings in the memo, the White House has given the EPA the green light to move ahead with regulation under the Clean Air Act.

According to government records, the document was submitted by the OMB as comment on the EPA’s April proposed finding that greenhouse gases are a danger to public health and welfare.

The memo - marked as “Deliberative-Attorney Client Privilege” - doesn’t have a date or a named author. But an OMB spokesman confirmed to news agencies that it was prepared by Obama administration staff.

BACKGROUND: The White House brief questions the link between the EPA’s scientific technical endangerment proposal and the EPA’s political summary. Administrator Jackson said in the endangerment summary that “scientific findings in totality point to compelling evidence of human-induced climate change, and that serious risks and potential impacts to public health and welfare have been clearly identified…”

The White House memo notes, the EPA endangerment technical document points out there are several areas where essential behaviors of greenhouse gases are “not well determined” and “not well understood.”

It warns about the adequacy of the EPA finding that the gases are a harm to the public when there is “no demonstrated direct health effects,” and the scientific data on which the agency relies are “almost exclusively from non-EPA sources.”

The memo contends that the endangerment finding, if finalized by the administration, could make agencies vulnerable to litigation alleging inadequate environmental permitting reviews, adding that the proposal could unintentionally trigger a cascade of regulations.

The views expressed by guest bloggers on the Foundry do not necessarily reflect the views of the Heritage Foundation.

8 posted on 12/07/2009 4:42:26 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("The Role of Government is to Secure Our Liberty, Not to Seize It" ~ Rush 6/26/09)
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To: muawiyah
EPA admitted it relied on the IPCC/CRU science and data, and shoved aside their own scientists. So the fraud is included in EPA data. Sen Inhofe publicly got the admission from the EPA...
9 posted on 12/07/2009 4:44:10 PM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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The list, ping

10 posted on 12/07/2009 4:46:57 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at
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To: Tarpon
With EPA moving in after the revelation of the crimes, it seems to me yet other crimes are being commited ~ and not just by the agency. We have the Administrator, staff under her, and even secretaries typing this stuff up.

We may be able to IMPRISON many EPA employees before this is over (which isn't going to happen until we get a new President).

The Federal Register will identify the person most responsible for this "handbook" so we ought to get him or her on our list of wrongdoers so they aren't overlooked when it comes to time to prosecute them.

11 posted on 12/07/2009 5:16:39 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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