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CDC Lies Under Obama Administration: Utah woman died of mutated H1N1 strain
It's a Kwazy Life ^ | December 10, 2009 | Tom Lamb

Posted on 12/11/2009 12:31:15 AM PST by theanchoragedailyruse

As I have been stating all along on this website, the CDC was lying about there being no mutation of the H1N1 virus.

Utah woman died of mutated H1N1 strain

"...A 28-year-old Utah woman who died this summer of H1N1 swine flu had a mutated form of the novel virus."


"...It was so minor, she said, that the CDC didn't notify the state of the mutation. The health department instead asked about the case after learning of it from a blog."

The headlines in the summer:

August 21, 2009 H1N1 flu virus hasn't mutated, CDC officials report

September 25, 2009 Swine Flu Virus Not Mutating, Making Vaccine a Good Match

The worst thing of all is; the national news media were enablers in the lie...

TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: cdc; flu; h1n1; healthcare; influenza; medicine; obama; swineflu
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1 posted on 12/11/2009 12:31:16 AM PST by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Also, keep up with other H1N1 update stories on this thread: H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread] thanks to DvdMom and others.

2 posted on 12/11/2009 12:34:55 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

I took the Swine Flu shot and the only side effect was a sore arm.

3 posted on 12/11/2009 12:41:42 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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I felt a little woozy afterwards.

4 posted on 12/11/2009 12:42:41 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Mandatory seasonal flu shot plus H1N1 approximately three weeks apart. No issues either time.
5 posted on 12/11/2009 12:53:16 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

I got swine flu....I’ve been wondering if this makes me immune to any mutated versions.


6 posted on 12/11/2009 12:58:24 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: gov_bean_ counter

They recommend 28 days so hopefully it was more 28 than 21...although I am glad that you did not have any issues. I had both flu shot and H1N1 issues. People should definitely get both shots.

7 posted on 12/11/2009 1:01:31 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

19 days according to the trusty yellow shot card.

8 posted on 12/11/2009 1:03:50 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

Wow, the CDC and the News media lied .... I’m shocked.

9 posted on 12/11/2009 1:36:04 AM PST by exnavy (God save the republic)
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To: napscoordinator
I'm not getting any shot.

The “swine flu” pandemic is another liberal/democrat/Marxist media lie.

There have been less deaths this year than other flu seasons. Plus it's usually old people that die.So are they dying of the flu or because they are old? Same thing for 2nd hand smoking “threat”,smoking,pollution, ozone hole, cancer, heart disease,swine flu, bird flu, sars,ebola, global warming etc. It's mostly old people that die from cancer ,heart disease or the flu so they die because they are old not because of 2nd hand smoke, diet, the swine flu or anything else the media invents.

The media wants to keep the population terrorized so that people plead for the government to save them. Then the government “saves” the population by writing thousand page laws that take away the people's freedom and wealth.

10 posted on 12/11/2009 1:36:35 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Thanks for the update. 19 days. I got the 28 days from the the military so maybe they were just trying to be a bit exaggerated on the timeline.
11 posted on 12/11/2009 1:58:42 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Democrat_media

To be honest you could be right, but I did not have a choice as the military is mandatory for H1N1 shot (at least overseas).

12 posted on 12/11/2009 1:59:32 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Democrat_media

They would have used the mutation as a way to terrorize...

Why lie about the mutation....They don’t know how many have died from the virus because they quit counting..

13 posted on 12/11/2009 2:05:48 AM PST by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: Democrat_media; DvdMom
The “swine flu” pandemic is another liberal/democrat/Marxist media lie.

Have you read any of DvdMom's research? Warning: The word "tome" is relevant here.

14 posted on 12/11/2009 2:45:08 AM PST by houeto (Free Republic will not support RINOS!! Rudy McRomney, et al, can go straight to hell!! -JR)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
Across the mainstream media, reports announce one swine flu death after another (even though ordinary flu kills about 35,000 Americans each year). Upon closer scrutiny of what passes for journalism, the victims have “underlying health problems,” or “a common underlying health condition,” or “significant medical conditions.”

Every day I hear the liberal mainstream media say that this person or that died of the swine flu .And the media also keeps a death count. But the media don't tell us that every year 35,000 people die from “regular” flu. So yes the media is lying and the media are terrorizing the population with these endless stories of the swine flu “pandemic”. It's not a pandemic . In fact there are much less deaths from ANY flu related illness this year than the regular 35,000.

Your showing one story that you say is supposedly true doesn't negate the fact that EVERY DAY with thousands of stories from thousands of media outlets , the media and the government have been lying and terrorizing the public with this fake swine flu hoax. This is just what the media and government do with the global warming hoax.
The democrat/Marxists including the mainstream media Democrats have taken over are terrorists and war criminals.

I guess you believe the media and government on this swine flu and global warming. Those that believe the media are helping the Democrats destroy America and Americans’ living standards.

Are you a Democrat operative?

15 posted on 12/11/2009 2:54:59 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: houeto; theanchoragedailyruse; DvdMom; All
Rush Limbaugh agrees with me that this Swine Flu pandemic is a hoax. So I guess some of you believe the liberal mainstream media but not Rush? Why would anyone believe any thing the liberal mainstream media says? Why? Why? Why? The media are not reporters . The mainstream media are democrat/Marxist/liberal operatives, evangelists for the religion of Marxism and statism, who terrorize, who propagandize, who lie, lie and lie again.We've seen them lie every day as in the global warming hoax and the swine flu hoas. The media terrorize the people to get them to accept more government control of their lives. Silly beings like liberals are more than happy to do what the media says to do. And liberals denigrate anyone who doesn't believe the media.

Story #6: Faulty Date: Swine Flu Was Not National Emergency
RUSH: Look at this! Looky here! “Swine flu far less severe in latest calculations.” Hoax and Change. You mean to tell me after all of this — remember Kathleen Sebelius? “You must take the vaccine, you must do this. We've got a national pandemic on the way here.” You mean to tell me now that swine flu was not a national emergency? Hoax and change. Faulty data seems to be a theme these days, whether it's about jobs created or saved, whether it's about global warming, whether it's about Obamacare being deficit neutral or swine flu deaths. President Obama seems to deal exclusively in lies. “The calculations represent a marked reduction from an August report by the President's Council of Advisories on Science and Technology.” Well, hubba hubba! There's no swine flu problem. Whoa.

The analysis suggests that the death rate from the current wave of H1N1 flu cases probably will fall in a range that extends from far lower to slightly higher than the estimate of 36,000 deaths caused by seasonal flu in a typical year.

16 posted on 12/11/2009 3:16:43 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: Aria

This doctor and her family got the confirmed swine flu twice . And it was confirmed twice by tests and further tests .

CDC confirms Kanawha County pediatrician had swine flu — twice (West Virginia)
November 24, 2009 by Zack Harold

A West Virginia physician who claimed to have contracted the H1N1 virus twice now has proof — from the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, no less — that her claims were true.

Dr. Debra Parsons, a pediatrician at Kid Care West in Cross Lanes, was met with reactions of doubt from local health officials last month when she said two flu tests had come back positive for H1N1, or swine flu.

Parsons first came down with the virus, complete with all the telltale symptoms, in August.

Her son became ill at the same time with the same symptoms. Figuring they had the same bug, Parsons tested herself to see what it was.

The test came back positive for Influenza A, so the lab at Charleston Area Medical Center sent it to be sub-typed. Parsons was positive for H1N1.

Parsons and her son recovered, but in October they started having the same symptoms, but they became much worse.

They were both tested this time, and the results were the same — they were positive for Influenza A and then H1N1.

“It was swine flu both times,” Parsons said.

So the specimen from the Parsons’ second flu test was sent to the CDC in Atlanta, where it underwent a preliminary strain reaction test. Parsons says that test is the “gold standard” in differentiating between seasonal and swine flu.

That sample came back a couple weeks ago, and it was positive for H1N1. The CDC then requested a specimen from Parsons’ August flu test.

Last Friday, the results of that test came back positive for H1N1.

Parsons says she’s spoken with CDC representatives about the results, and they said the double infection isn’t all that unbelievable.

“They said this happens every year with seasonal flu, so there’s no reason to expect that it wouldn’t happen with swine flu,” Parsons said. “Every flu strain can change a little bit.”

The pediatrician says there may have been a tiny change in the virus that stopped her immune system from recognizing it or her body never built up immunity to it.

Parsons said the CDC’s tests confirmed what she already knew, “so I’d know what to tell people, and I could prove that I wasn’t trying to start a panic. I don’t want to scare anybody.”

“I need to know, as a physician, if it is possible or not. I want to tell my patients the truth,” she said

17 posted on 12/11/2009 4:10:26 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Democrat_media; houeto; ET(end tyranny)

I know freepers who have lost a loved one to H1N1 . And some of those family and friends who died of H1N1 were healthy . I know of a dear freeper who’s healthy sister in law is still in the ICU because of the swine flu . The seasonal flu doesn’t kill healthy people and cause there organs to shut down .

When I think of other who think H1N1 is mild this comment sums it up :)

The below comment can be found on page 2 under the comments section of the below link

Sensitivity to the H1N1 patients and family is welcome
My son, age 26, a construction worker, with no underlying health conditions was also sticken with ARDS. My son was tested three times for H1N1 before the test finally returned positive. Recovering from what was diagnosed as a viral infection, my son suddenly experienced chest pains, shortness of breath and excessive coughing. Within eight hours of these symptoms, he was hospitalized. His entire left lung was white. The disease rapidly progressed to the right lung. He was airlifted to the St. Cloud hospital and put on a respirator which he remained on for four weeks. During this time he experienced kidney failure which required daily dialysis treatments. He had a collapsed lung and other organ inflammation. He was also a candidate for Permivir, which we saw results within two days. He was in the St. Cloud Hospital for five weeks, four weeks in ICU. He is home recovering but will not be able to return to work for at least the next three months. His lungs are heavily scarred, he lost 30 pounds and continues to experience chest pain and shortness of breath.
For those that do not believe this disease is this serious, they can assist us in paying the approximate $3 million in medical bills. It is really disheartening that people are so insensitive to these issues and doubt what is written. I always thought it would never happen to us, it always happened to someone else. Those five weeks in the hospital when my son was given less than 30% chance of surviving this illness was the worse time of my life. Try putting yourself in that position and see how you feel!

Freeper ET(end tyranny) sister-in-law is in the ICU still because of H1N1 . Her sister in law was very healthy before getting H1N1 This what freeper ET(end tyranny)posted about the above article .

That sounds almost exactly like my sister in-law’s case. Her lungs showed almost completely white. (both of them) and when asked about survival, early on, the docs wouldn’t say. She was gray, with no color. They had a tube going into a neck artery that when right to the heart for monitoring. She still gets fed through a tube.

She exercises her legs on her own. She can’t walk at all at this point. I think she is hoping to lessen the time in rehab when they finally let her our of ICU.

She looks at the newspaper ads and keeps pointing to the diet coke. It’s going to be a long time before she gets that, and if those kidneys don’t shape up, who knows.

She writes on the table that we all should get the H1N1 shot.

One day standing in line at the check out, some guy was telling the cashier that he thought the H1N1 was all hype. I told him if he had a relative in ICU with it, he might think differently. When I told him about her case, the blood drained from his face.

I really think some people think its over hyped, but, I think its because the media hasn’t really been reporting on the hospitalizations and deaths. I think that is because of the vaccine shortages. Can you imagine the chaos if people realized that saint obama wasn’t delivering on the needed vaccines?

I have posted over 7,000 swine flu articles here

From my take of posting of well over 7,000 H1N1 articles the MSM isn’t reporting a lot of the H1N1 deaths .

This article below reminds me of the brave undercover reporterswho exposed the Acorn scandal .

These undercover reporters found that the county didn’t even tell family members that there loved one died from H1N1 .

L.A. County’s Swine Flu Victims: Death Certificates Tell the Stories Of A Ravaging Virus

Nov 2009 - by Callie Schweitzer - Neon publication of the Annenberg School of Journalism - excerpts

“Neon Tommy analyzed the death records and interviewed family members, public health officials and doctors to see what the dozens of deaths suggest about the patterns of the illness and who remains most at risk. In several cases, the families we spoke with said they did not know their relatives had died of swine flu until we told them. In these cases, county officials said the diagnoses had been made after doctors filled out the death certificates, and that it is not the county’s responsibility to notify family members. Nearly half of the death records do not list swine flu as a cause of death.

In a typical flu season, about 1,000 people usually die in Los Angeles County; 36,000, nationwide. But up to 70 percent of the victims usually suffer from preexisting conditions that put them at risk. Our study of the 44 swine flu victims showed this virus behaves differently — the number of people with such conditions was equal to those without such ailments; preexisting conditions included diabetes, renal failure, obesity, hypertension and lupus, among others.

... swine flu in L.A. County has not been predominantly killing people with troubled health histories. A closer look at the 44 certificates showed the contrary — the two categories were equal; 22 had preexisting conditions, and 22 had no preexisting conditions listed...Flu season normally begins in the cooler months of October and November, but swine flu has proved to be different — thriving in warmer temperatures, Lopez said.

“We have a virus that does very well in warmer months and is being transmitted pretty efficiently because of such low immunity,” he said. “It’s not very well understood that this virus has been able to sustain itself ever since it was introduced in April and May.

Here is another report about H1N1 deaths not being reported .

Coroner Believes H1N1 Death Toll Much Higher
Nov 20, 2009

The Polk County medical examiner claims the H1N1 death toll in Iowa is really much higher.

Doctor Gregory Schmunk says he believes he’s found H1N1 in a number of autopsies on people who were never diagnosed with the flu.

Schmunk says accurate tests for H1N1 are sometimes too invasive for sick patients.

“Because of our limitations on testing, sometimes the tests aren’t positive. But they do appear to fit clinically the course of an H1N1 viral type pneumonia.”

This healthy child who died his Dad is a medical doctor and now his Dad whose is a medical doctor is trying to warn others ...


Learning from Trevor’s death in H1N1 fight

Monitor flu-like symptoms, breathing trouble, father of Clifton Park boy warns

By TIM O’BRIEN, Staff writer
First published in print: Saturday, November 14, 2009

CLIFTON PARK — The devastated father of a 7-year-old boy whose death is suspected to be from the H1N1 virus cautioned parents that if their children have flu-like symptoms and trouble breathing, it is a dangerous combination that should be carefully monitored.

Henry Lin said he was moved to speak in the hope that what he has learned from the death of his son, Trevor, could help other parents.

This week, the Saratoga County Health Department said a child’s death was suspected to be a result of the H1N1 virus. Lin’s family confirms their son, a second grader at Okte Elementary School, is the child.

“I only disclosed information about Trevor out of interest in protecting his fellow students’ lives,” Lin said.

Swine flu hitting young, healthy adults hardest (Canada)

The young and healthy who feel invincible from the H1N1 “swine flu” influenza pandemic may not be as bulletproof as they think, warn public health experts.

Nearly two-thirds of Canadians hospitalized due to swine flu, and half of those who have died, had no underlying health conditions.

Experts do not yet understand why the new strain affects some healthy people so severely, ravaging their lungs with an aggressive pneumonia and forcing them to spend weeks in hospital, attached to breathing machines.-———————————————————————

Lungs of fatal swine flu patients badly damaged
Sep. 3 2009

The lungs of people who have died from swine flu look more like those of the victims of H5N1 avian influenza than those of people who succumb to regular flu, the chief of infectious diseases pathology at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control says.

Study of about 70 fatal H1N1 cases so far also reveals there may be more incidences of co-infections with bacteria than was earlier thought, Dr. Sherif Zaki told The Canadian Press in an interview.

The damage to lung tissue is consistent with that inflicted by ARDS or acute respiratory distress symptom, Zaki says, referring to an often-fatal, difficult-to-treat syndrome that can have a number of causes. The U.S. National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute estimates about 30 per cent of people who develop ARDS die.

“In terms of the disease, yes, it (H1N1) is remarkably different than seasonal flu,” Zaki says. “The pathology looks very similar to H5(N1).”


Swine flu and bird flu viruses are being mixed together by French professor , Bruno Lina, affiliated with WHO, potentially creating a lethal virus writes Ester Nordland on the internet news site Norway Health.

Lina and his team are carrying out this research into creating a lethal bioweapon under the pretext of having to predict the course of a future pandemic.

In one of the safest laboratories in the world, scientists are intent on mixing one of the most contagious viruses in this world with one of the most deadly ones, she writes.

The goal is to find out whether swine flu and bird flu can end up as a deadly mixture, writes the Norwegian news agency ANB.

Swine flu (H1N1) is very contagious, but ends up only killing a minority of the persons who actually get the flu.

Bird flu (H5N1), on the other hand, kills more than 60 percent of its human victims, but only in rare cases spreads from person to person.

Should those two viruses mix or mutate, a new horror virus might appear: A virus as devastating as the avian flu virus and as contagious as the swine flu virus.

At the Inserm laboratories biosecurity level 4 in Lyon in France deadly viruses like Ebola, Marburg and Hendra are locked in a safe. The laboratory is situated in a building that may withstand both earthquakes and explosions.

The researchers move around in protection equipment reminiscent of space suits withan inbuilt supply of oxygen.

Inserm is the national French institute for human health and medical research.

Now a team of researchers in Lyon intend to investigate whether the H1N1-virus will interfere with its more deadly relative H5N1 and become a virus with the most dreadful traits of both of them. If they discover what kind of mutations will occur, and what kind of influenza may appear, it might turn out to be a key to predict, how future pandemics will evolve.

Until now they have investigated, how H1N1 can develop resistancy towards the pharmaceutical product Tamiflu.

Now the primal investigator of the research team, Bruno Lina, hopes to be allowed to mix the two viruses. – It is a controversial study, but it is fundamental research which should be carried out, says Lina to the magazine Nature. – If you discover, what parts of the H5H1-virus is most prune to change, you are able to be more alert, if the virus change in those parts, says Lina.

Olav Hungnes coordinates the flu watch at Human Health Institute (Folkehelseinstituttet) in Norway. He says that it is a possibility, that the swine flu virus may change.

Hungnes explains that the genetic profile of the virus may chance in such a way, that it takes up genes from another virus.

The prerequisite of swine flu virus and avian virus mixing to a new and even more more dangerous virus is that they come together. But there are so few cases of avian flu among people, that the chances are low, says Hungnes.

Avian flu is most widespread in Southern Asia.

It is imagined that the pig may serve as a mixing pool for the two types of influenza. In those areas pigs, geese and human beings live together. But until now this has not happened, says senior medical doctor Bjørn Iversen, from Human Health Institute in Norway - Whether it will happen, nobody knows. What you belive in these questions, depends on whether you are an optimist or a pessimist. The optimist will say, that since it has not happened until now, it will never happen. The pessimist will say, that now it has tried so hard for such a long time, that it is just before it succeed. I believe that the possibility that it will actually happen is small. The avian flu virus has circulated since 1987. It came back in 2003, and in spite of the fact, that there has been a lot of normal seasonal influenza, it has not succeded in mixing with this, says Iversen.

According to Bjørn Iversen research in this area is taking place all over the world.

In an American laboratory, the researcher Jeffrey Taubenberger has managed to reconstruct the Spanish flu virus which laid the world waste at the beginning of the 20. century (1900-tallet). His team of researchers have cultivated a new live virus. (ANB)

Some scientists have speculated that the 1977 Russian flu, the most recent global outbreak, began when a virus escaped from a laboratory.

Retired Australian National University virologist, Adrian Gibbs, was quoted ON Thursday by the website ScienceInsider as suggesting that a laboratory accident may have created the H1N1 Swine Flu . Adrian Gibbs helped create Tamiflu .

An Australian researcher has suggested that a vaccine-manufacturing accident may have created the virus that caused the swine flu outbreak.

Retired Australian National University virologist, Adrian Gibbs, was quoted ON Thursday by the website ScienceInsider as suggesting that a laboratory accident may have created the virus now sweeping the world.

“I bumped into an advertisement for an influenza vaccine for pigs that contained three different viruses,” Gibbs told the website.

He added the latest outbreak led him to scour the public databases and compare the genes of the recently-discovered A (H1N1) virus-which is a mix of swine, avian, and human influenzas-with its closest ancestors.

He confirmed, as others have reported, that six of the eight genes appeared to come from North America and two others came from Eurasia, which suggested that there were two parental viruses which had resorted.

“Not killing off the virus could explain the whole thing very neatly, but it’s only one of several possibilities.”

Scientists with the World Health Organization (WHO) and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) -who similarly are skeptical about the hypothesis- have been forced to examine the evidence and publicly discuss the idea.

Gibbs, who contributed to the research that produced the drug Tamiflu used to treat influenza cases, said he was ready to be proved wrong.

“Scientists are trained to be iconoclasts, not to believe what they’re told,” he said. “And they don’t believe until they’ve really had a good go at it.”


18 posted on 12/11/2009 4:59:27 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

My doctor says I cannot get a flu shot because I am over 65. Those over 65 are denied the innoculation even if they have serious medical problems. My doctor wasn’t all broke up about it. So it goes.

Here’s the kicker: If they ever announce the old people’s shots are ready, I will not line up for them. I will never accept any shot this government aims specifically at old people. I have zero trust in government, including my doctor, who apparently has become an agent of government.

I have lived long enough to see clearly that things can change in an eyeblink and anyone is capable of rationalizing monstrosities.

19 posted on 12/11/2009 5:15:29 AM PST by Marylander (Obama is a pill ... and a pain.)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

Yep. This made the rounds on local radio here today in S. Utah. Nevertheless, the media was downplaying big deal.

Two word answer here:

Vitamin D

20 posted on 12/11/2009 5:18:15 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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