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Taitz demands Holder commence Quo Warranto against Obama
post and email ^ | Dec. 14, 2009 | John Charlton

Posted on 12/15/2009 7:00:23 AM PST by opentalk

(Dec. 14, 2009) — Without a doubt the most important and significant legal action in the United States this week, is Dr. Orly Taitz’s Letter to Eric Holder, sent today, demanding that he institute Quo Warranto proceedings against Barack Hussein Obama in the District Court of Washington, D.C..

The importance of this letter is the fact that the quo warranto provisions of the District of Columbia Code provide that a 3rd party may institute a quo warranto action if the U.S. Attorney General fails to respond within 3 months to his request.

Dr. Orly Taitz wrote Holder on March 1st. In her letter, published today at her website, she demands that either he take action himself, or that her plaintiffs be granted ex-relator status to proceed in the name of the United States of America, as the D.C. code allows.

Quo warranto is a legal action whereby a plaintiff formally demands proof that the holder of an office, holds it lawfully, and if he does not, is empowered by the court to remove him from it. The Code of the Disctrict of Columbia contains provisions for quo warranto, in such cases as the usurpation of any federal office exercised within the district. Quo warranto can be used against Barack Hussein Obama because he is not a natural born citizen, and thus does not enjoy the Constitutional immunities of that office.

Dr. Taitz’s letter reads in full:

Dear Mr. Holder,

On March 1st on behalf of my clients I have submitted to you a request to file Quo Warranto against Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. The request was filed due to following troubling facts:

1. According to a number of licensed investigators National Databases show Mr. Obama using as many as 39 different Social Security numbers, which included the numbers of deceased individuals and numbers never assigned.

2. Number 042-68-4425 that Mr. Obama used for most of his life and is currently using while residing in the White House, is a number assigned to an individual born in 1890, who resided in the state of Connecticut and this Social Security number was issued in the state of Connecticut where Mr. Obama never resided.

3. One of the leading forensic experts in the country Ms. Sandra Ramsey Lines has prepared an affidavit, stating that Mr. Obama’s short version Certification of Life Birth cannot be treated as genuine without seeing the original on file in the Health Department in HI.

4. The state of Hawaii since 1911 had in its statutes a provision allowing Foreign born children of Hawaiian residents of get Hawaiian Birth Certificates(currently statute 338-17) and currently statute 338-5 allows one to get a birth certificate based on a statement of one relative only without any corroborating evidence from the hospital.

5. In spite of over 100 law suits filed around the country and 12 Citizen Grand Jury indictments Mr. Obama refused to sign a consent to unseal his original birth certificate currently sealed in the Health Department of the state of Hawaii and all the other vital records.

6. Ms. Chiuomi Fukino, Director of the Health Department of the State of Hawaii has provided a statement that there is a document on file in Hawaii, however she refused to provide any information, as to what document is on file: whether it is a Birth Certificate given to a foreign born child of Hawaiian resident, whether it is an amended Birth certificate, obtained when Mr. Obama was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather. She refused to answer any questions as to whether his birth certificate was obtained based on a proper hospital birth certificate or based on a statement of one of his relatives only, which needs to be corroborated.

7. Regardless of place of birth of Mr. Obama, since birth and until now Mr. Obama had a split allegiance. He had British citizenship at birth, Kenyan since age 2 and Indonesian since age 5. Allegiance to other Nations goes as a clear violation of the Natural citizenship clause of the article 2 section 1 of the Constitution.

8. Under the Freedom of Information act 5 US 552, since no response was provided to numerous certified mail letters received by your office nine months ago, I demand a written response or Administrative hearing on the matter within 30 days. On behalf of my clients I demand an answer, as to when the Quo Warranto against Mr. Obama will be filed by the US Attorney General office, or in the alternative if the Attorney General office refuses to file Quo Warranto, I demand an ex-relator status for my clients to proceed with the Quo Warranto action against Mr. Obama in the DC court or the Supreme Court of the United States.

Signed,

Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ

Counsel to the plaintiffs-ex relators.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; eligibility; holder; obama; orlytaitz; orlytaitzs; quowarranto; whackamole
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If true, # 2 in the letter is interesting.
1 posted on 12/15/2009 7:00:24 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

BUMP for more info on #2!


2 posted on 12/15/2009 7:03:47 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: opentalk
Without a doubt the most important and significant legal action in the United States this week, is Dr. Orly Taitz’s Letter to Eric Holder, sent today, demanding that he institute Quo Warranto proceedings against Barack Hussein Obama in the District Court of Washington, D.C..

Nothing Orly Taitz has done has ever fallen under the 'most important legal action' category. Except in her own mind, of course.

3 posted on 12/15/2009 7:04:34 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: opentalk
I've read a few threads on Orly in the past.

Unfortunately, the overwhelming response by those who claim they are in a position to know the law falls into a few categories:

1) She's a dentist
2) She's inexperienced
3) She has a lousy website
4) She does not do a good PR job

Those may or may not be true.

It would, however, sure be interesting if we could get some opinions from those who know that were actually confined to the legal action as described in the article.

I, for one, (and maybe I'm alone) would like to learn a bit about the law. I'm already well-versed in condescension.

Just some thoughts...

4 posted on 12/15/2009 7:09:58 AM PST by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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To: opentalk

Unfortunately, this is merely a formality on Taitz’s part, as Holder isn’t going to do anything with regard to Barry, the kenyan poser.


5 posted on 12/15/2009 7:11:43 AM PST by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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To: chrisser

The issues are worthy of investigation and always were but McCain wouldn’t allow it.

I don’t question Taitz’s sincerity. But I would hope she could get some help from serious & experienced trial lawyers. The paper flow & time tables are tricky, some good litigators on her side would get this taken seriously.


6 posted on 12/15/2009 7:12:44 AM PST by jazminerose
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To: opentalk
Some people talk, some take action. To her credit, she is continuing to take action. I say bully for her. I give her credit and respect her efforts. True, she has gone off half cocked a time or two, but she isn't going away, and she might even have learned from her mistakes. Flame on!

Charge two is quite interesting. The old can of worms just got ripped open and it's starting to really stink.

Leo Donofrio and Stephen Pidgeon are attacking from the other flank. Get some! Get some! Get some!

7 posted on 12/15/2009 7:19:10 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: chrisser

“I’m already well-versed in condescension.”

Brother, you said a mouthful with that zinger. ;o)


8 posted on 12/15/2009 7:23:28 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: null and void
2. Number 042-68-4425 that Mr. Obama used for most of his life and is currently using while residing in the White House, is a number assigned to an individual born in 1890, who resided in the state of Connecticut and this Social Security number was issued in the state of Connecticut where Mr. Obama never resided.

PING?

9 posted on 12/15/2009 7:29:16 AM PST by azishot (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!)
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To: opentalk
I would like to be able to refer to a link fleshing out the statements in #2. Can you provide one that might be the best summary of those facts? Thanks.

#8 is not tightly written, logic-wise. It needs editing.

Regarding Fukino's statement(s): She did state that Barry was a "natural born citizen". Her statement was said to have been approved by HI AG Mark Bennett (R). Nowhere I've seen has there been anything stated on what basis that comment was built? We're certainly led to believe it was on the basis of whatever birth-related document the HI Dept. of Health has on file, but I'd been surprised if even Bennett would allow himself to be pinned with responsibility for that answer. My best guess is--which I've never seen alluded in any Internet posting--that her statement relies on Nancy Pelosi's unique-to-Hawai'i certification of Barry's qualification, notarized 8/28/08. I'd call such an action of presumed construction very much akin to pulling the pin on a hand-grenade. Go, Mark!

HF

10 posted on 12/15/2009 7:30:08 AM PST by holden
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To: PhiloBedo
INALADPOOTV, but...

My understanding is that proof of Holder's inaction should be sufficient before the court to allow Taitz to step in with Quo Warranto, since Holder provably will have vacated his responsibilities for over three months, as of 3/09.

HF

11 posted on 12/15/2009 7:33:42 AM PST by holden
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To: freepersup
I give her credit and respect her efforts.

Even if she increases public awareness that something is amiss, or helps approval polls drop, it makes a difference.

12 posted on 12/15/2009 7:48:59 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

“Even if she increases public awareness that something is amiss, or helps approval polls drop, it makes a difference.”

Well said.

Stephen Pidgeon: Research and Litigation Strategies Have Just Begun

Submitted by Phil on Thu, Jan 15, 2009

Press Releases related to Plains Radio and Stephen Pidgeon

Greetings fellow Patriots,

Stephen Pidgeon asked to have the following conveyed to Plains Radio Network:

>> Discordant publicity is affecting his ability to complete this research. He is literally getting different degrees of heat from across the globe, from all sides. The closer we get, the hotter things become and the greater the need for precise communications. Earlier communication miscues aside, for now, Stephen will provide information he is ready to release to Plains Radio Network through me. I will write the press release, and after I show them to Ed, place them here.

>> Stephen believes that we must all stand together! This is very important to all of us. Stephen asks that each of us stay focused and not lose sight of our purpose. He said “We must not allow anything to divide us. Stay strong, stay united. We are a far cry from being done with the research. Also, the litigation strategies have just begun.” He continued, “There is no need for division in the ranks tearing each other down.”

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/01/15/stephen-pidgeon-research-and-litigation-strategies-have-just-begun/


13 posted on 12/15/2009 8:03:11 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: freepersup

I wonder if Dr. Taitz has requested an IRS audit of zero’s tax returns over the years to verify matching social security numbers.


14 posted on 12/15/2009 8:09:41 AM PST by yorkie01
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To: opentalk

.

“Even if she increases public awareness that something is amiss, or helps approval polls drop, it makes a difference”

You’r d*mned right it makes a difference.
She has almost single handedly brought Obama’s inelgibility to not only U.S, but world-wide attention- as well as caused the Marxist/Muslim usuper to sweat bullets!

.


15 posted on 12/15/2009 8:21:26 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: freepersup

Plains Radio no longer exists and Ed Hale has retired.


16 posted on 12/15/2009 8:24:56 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: opentalk

Some people just never seem to learn, do they?


17 posted on 12/15/2009 8:51:44 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: patriot08
Roger that.

I posted the article by Stephen Pidgeon, from a post at the blog- the right side of life, for it's context is still timely in that it is a call for unity amongst all of us, on the NBC issue. Only later did I catch the Jan., 09, date, however, the charge to unite is still valid.

Thanks.

18 posted on 12/15/2009 9:06:40 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: opentalk
Dr. Orly Taitz’s Letter to Eric Holder, sent today, demanding that he institute Quo Warranto proceedings against Barack Hussein Obama

Yeah and Janet Reno might fly out of my but!

19 posted on 12/15/2009 9:11:30 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: opentalk

I am not going to hold my breath on Holder actually doing this. He isn’t going to bite the hand that feeds him, he is a product and a beneficiary of the Chicago Machine party politics that put Obama into power. Holder isn’t going to slip the leash and do this, in fact he doesn’t WANT to slip the leash to do this.


20 posted on 12/15/2009 9:12:49 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: yorkie01
Requesting it is one thing, obtaining it... quite another. You raise an interesting point. The usurper will be filing his taxes shortly; it’ll be interesting to see if he releases them, and what SS number he uses.
21 posted on 12/15/2009 9:18:30 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: azishot; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ...
PING?

PING!

22 posted on 12/15/2009 9:24:42 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 328 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; azishot
That Barry has multiple SSN's associated with his name(s), including one issued to someone born in 1890, who resided in the state of Connecticut, is something she's had in her "dossier's" since early spring (IIRC).

What is new, to me anyway, is the allegation that Barry is currently using that Connecticut SSN.

That would be a truly brazen move on his part. Guess that's par for the course for him since he believes he can get away with anything (& currently is).

23 posted on 12/15/2009 10:13:47 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: opentalk

I did not pay to verify Obama’s social security number but found this. This one says no death has occured. But interesting on many of the genealogy websites the number is not valid.

http://www.ssnvalidator.com/pages/results.aspx

Social Security Number: 042-68-4425
Date of this report: December 15, 2009
State of Issuance: Connecticut
Approx. Date of Issuance: 1976 And 1977
Issuance Status: According to the Social Security Administration,
this SSN has been issued.
SSA Death Masterfile: No record as of 10-02-2009
STATUS: THIS SSN HAS BEEN VALIDATED!


24 posted on 12/15/2009 10:27:35 AM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: opentalk

No death index on that SSN.

http://tw0.us/5l9

Social Security Death Index Search Results

The most full-featured SSDI search engine on the internet

Field Value Records Results
SSN 042-68-4425 0

Nothing found


25 posted on 12/15/2009 10:29:57 AM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: rxsid; null and void

Using a purloined Social Security number is a tell tale sign of an illegal immigrant.


26 posted on 12/15/2009 10:38:18 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: BIGLOOK

Merely a weird coinky-dink...


27 posted on 12/15/2009 10:43:54 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 328 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: hennie pennie; onyx

*ping*


28 posted on 12/15/2009 10:45:44 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: BIGLOOK

Doesn’t the CIA also do that, in some creations of fake identities among their agents?


29 posted on 12/15/2009 10:47:43 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I doubt the CIA hires illegal immigrants.


30 posted on 12/15/2009 10:56:13 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Ping to some new sidesplitting humor from “Lady Liberty” herself.


31 posted on 12/15/2009 10:58:11 AM PST by Drew68
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To: opentalk
In spite of over 100 law suits filed around the country and 12 Citizen Grand Jury indictments.

Yes, of course, these would be the acts of the American Make-Believe Super Grand Jury II whose frivolous court filings are almost as entertaining as Orly's herself. What a joy to see these two entities working together!

32 posted on 12/15/2009 11:07:19 AM PST by Drew68
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To: mlo; Non-Sequitur; parsifal; Pilsner; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; MilspecRob; ...

Ping to an Orly Taitz whack-a-mole thread.


33 posted on 12/15/2009 11:10:29 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Danae

So Orly’s original letter to A.G. Holder was March 1, 2009. The three-month time period for Holder’s response would have been up June 1, 2009. Now here we are 6 months past June 1st and she thinks now is the time for her to take action on this? I call BS on this one.

Orly knows her time in the spotlight is fading fast. She sees Leo Donofrio and Steve Pidgeon getting favorable coverage of their lawsuit on behalf of the auto dealers and she just can’t stand not being in the limelight.

She’s an attention whore. The timing of this request affirms that. Her travelling freak show will garner negative attention and do a great deal of damage to the credibility of the quo warranto issue. And I would venture a guess that that is her goal.


34 posted on 12/15/2009 11:22:21 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BIGLOOK

Everything about BHO may be in a permanent state of lockdown because he is a deep cover CIA agent, and not because he is a foreign born illegal alien.


35 posted on 12/15/2009 11:23:16 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: BuckeyeTexan
On behalf of my clients I demand an answer

She then stamped her foot and began screaming in a shrill, annoying manner.

36 posted on 12/15/2009 11:27:30 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: rxsid
That would be a truly brazen move on his part.

*Brazen* is his real name, IMHO.

37 posted on 12/15/2009 11:31:33 AM PST by azishot (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!)
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To: humblegunner; parsifal

And when the Court asked Orly to explain why her clients had standing, she answered:

“Standing? Well I’m standing right here your Honor. I’m not standing in Washington D.C. and neither are my clients. They’re standing here, too, right beside me, so this Court definitely has us all standing here so standing should not be an argument. Even the Defense is standing here, or sitting maybe, but I think it all counts the same because they will have to stand to talk to you.”
~parsy, who has secret sources 10/5/2009

That one still has me laughing.


38 posted on 12/15/2009 11:58:11 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: opentalk
Lordy I hope this isn't the verbatim text sent to Holder.

The grammar and use of language is atrocious. Doesn't she have access to a proofreader? And while we're at it that's a pretty cheesy looking website she has.

I'm sure Holder will at least get a good chuckle out of this one...

39 posted on 12/15/2009 12:01:51 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: thecraw
The grammar and use of language is atrocious. Doesn't she have access to a proofreader?

I believe Orly and her "proofreader" (disbarred felon attorney Charles E. Lincoln III) had a lovers' spat.

40 posted on 12/15/2009 1:00:39 PM PST by Drew68
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It has been interesting to watch this topic.

It makes for some fascinating observations of human perception.


41 posted on 12/15/2009 1:17:23 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: PhiloBedo

No it’s not a formality in the sense you mean.

If Holder doesn’t play the game, Orly can bypass him and get a Court to order the US Government to sue Obama for Quo Warranto.

Obviously Holder would be recused and probably a Special Prosecutor could be appointed.

Orly should have done this months ago. Carter told her to in his Judgement.


42 posted on 12/15/2009 2:24:41 PM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
Orly can bypass him [Holder] and get a Court to order the US Government to sue Obama for Quo Warranto.

Would that Court Order come from the United States District Court for Fantasy Island?

A steak dinner, on me, at Mortons, to the first Birther who can post a cite to a Section of the United States Code giving the Courts the power to order the Attorney General to file a quo warranto against any Federal Officer, much less the President of the United States.

43 posted on 12/15/2009 2:38:26 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: opentalk
Taitz demands....

ROFLMAOAPIMPRFI

Whew!

Can't breathe!

44 posted on 12/15/2009 2:39:59 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thx! I would not have put it past her. From another secret source:

Dear Ms. Taitz,

I only just received your request for a Quo Warranto. I have been busy all week hopping around from coffee shop to coffee shop across the country. The coffee shops have “sufficient grounds.” You do not.

Sincerely,

Eric Holder, esq.

parsy, the punster


45 posted on 12/15/2009 3:24:40 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Pilsner
Title 7, Chapter 7, Insect Pests Generally

New addition titled “Special Considerations for Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.”

46 posted on 12/15/2009 3:57:13 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: PhiloBedo

The formality needs to be done however for anything else to follow. And Puleeze ignore our resident Obot trolls. CO


47 posted on 12/15/2009 4:01:01 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: rxsid

Um “That Barry has multiple SSN’s associated with his name(s) etc. and the fact an investigator into the same was found “murdered”.? All just too coincidental might one say? Usurper indeed!! CO


48 posted on 12/15/2009 4:04:54 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Pilsner

DC ST § 16-3503

Formerly cited as DC ST 1981 § 16-3503

District of Columbia Official Code 2001 Edition Currentness

Division II. Judiciary and Judicial Procedure

Title 16. Particular Actions, Proceedings and Matters. (Refs & Annos) Best Section Begin

Chapter 35. Search Term Begin Quo Warranto. Search Term End Best Section End

Subchapter I. Actions Against Officers of the United States. (Refs & Annos)

§ 16-3503. Refusal of Attorney General or United States attorney to act; procedure.

If the Attorney General or United States attorney refuses to institute a quo warranto proceeding on the request of a person interested, the interested person may apply to the court by certified petition for leave to have the writ issued. When, in the opinion of the court, the reasons set forth in the petition are sufficient in law, the writ shall be allowed to be issued by any attorney, in the name of the United States, on the relation of the interested person on his compliance with the condition prescribed by section 16-3502 as to security for costs.
http://weblinks.westlaw.com/result/default.aspx?action=Search&cfid=1&cnt=DOC&db=DC%2DST%2DWEB&eq=search&fmqv=c&fn=%5Ftop&method=WIN&n=11&origin=Search&query=quo+warranto&rlt=CLID%5FQRYRLT14110443181512&rltdb=CLID%5FDB59220433181512&rlti=1&rp=%2Fsearch%2Fdefault%2Ewl&rs=GVT1%2E0&service=Search&sp=DCC%2D1000&srch=TRUE&ss=CNT&sskey=CLID%5FSSSA6220433181512&sv=Split&vr=2%2E0

I need to be flown in from England for my steak dinner. Could you book a suitable first class ticket?

Thanks

PS I won’t hold you to it.


49 posted on 12/15/2009 4:11:18 PM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary

Good one!


50 posted on 12/15/2009 7:08:02 PM PST by thecodont
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