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The Second American Revolution: Defund and Disobey the Fascists
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 12/17/09 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 12/17/2009 3:05:13 PM PST by American Dream 246

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1 posted on 12/17/2009 3:05:15 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

So essentially we need to do some “REAL community Organizing” for Civil disobedience.

But the question is, with so many hidden taxes and so any people working for other companies that take out their taxes before they ever get paid how does one stage a sucessfull tax revolt by Defunding the vermin in D.C. ?


2 posted on 12/17/2009 3:12:00 PM PST by GraceG
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To: American Dream 246
IIRC one of Newt's planks in his Contract with America was to Defund the Left.

It is a great idea. The problem is that every federal agency becomes the equivalent of a living, breathing organism with employees and constituencies that will fight to the death for survival. I'm not aware of a single post Depression era agency that fullfilled its legislative goal and was subsequently defunded.

We still have NPR because . . .

3 posted on 12/17/2009 3:13:20 PM PST by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning.)
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To: American Dream 246

I’m IN...let’s start with the worst of the worst...the EPA.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 3:15:22 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: American Dream 246

Not just defund, but DISSOLVE.


5 posted on 12/17/2009 3:15:22 PM PST by griffin (Constitution Unchained! - krsieanforcongress.com)
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To: American Dream 246

Are there any sites out there with ridiculous laws we could break? I like the border flower idea, that would work good in state capitals that near other state borders....


6 posted on 12/17/2009 3:16:04 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

We HAVE to do something before it is too late. So you pick..


7 posted on 12/17/2009 3:22:57 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246
If they have the guts to do this, then surely they have the guts to simply disobey fascist laws non-violently and peacefully, to fight in the courts and not the streets. Yet it's a far safer and more effective way to cripple Leviathan.

I cannot afford to fight in court unless I defend myself. Beyond this I think the defund idea is perfect BUT we have to stick to our guns. 100%! Additionally, I suggest a budget reduction of 1% per year in both discretionary and non-discretionary spending (the very idea of which is nonsense) until the budget is in surplus. And votes to repeal the XVI Amendment and abolish the IRS replacing it with a national sales tax.

8 posted on 12/17/2009 3:31:31 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: American Dream 246
Outstanding strategy, except for 1 thing: The threat of not being elected has been eliminated by the lobbyist revolvoing door (see "Center for American Progress"), so these bought-off, testicle-free Vichy congresspiles have no motivation to side with the People against their Masters.

Dr. Wheeler must remember something we all tend to forget: We are the only ones who play by the rules and are motivated by a sense of right and wrong. These people have no morals and no goals beyond the acquisition of power over others.

You can't count on the feelings of regret or guilt from professional psychopaths. There just isn't anything there to cultivate.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

9 posted on 12/17/2009 3:34:55 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: American Dream 246
I posted Wheeler's article here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2409806/posts

It is one of his open articles for the public.

10 posted on 12/17/2009 3:38:07 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: GraceG
claim 20 dependents on your w-4 form if employed by someone, you might have to pay taxes on April 15th but why give the fed an intrest free loan.
11 posted on 12/17/2009 3:40:41 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Travis McGee; Jack Black

Ping.


12 posted on 12/17/2009 3:42:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: American Dream 246; Publius

Atlas Shrugged pingworthy?


13 posted on 12/17/2009 3:44:12 PM PST by whodathunkit (Obama is the caboose of the long train of usurpations)
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marked


14 posted on 12/17/2009 3:44:49 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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To: KingNo155

>> claim 20 dependents on your w-4 form if employed by someone, you might have to pay taxes on April 15th but why give the fed an interest free loan. <<

If you want a real revolution I think withholding should be made illegal and everyone pays their federal taxes every quarter.....

Change would then happen...


15 posted on 12/17/2009 3:45:07 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
i agree most don't know how much tax is taken out because they never look, what else is hidden is their employers contributions which aren't reported on their paystub.
16 posted on 12/17/2009 3:52:41 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: American Dream 246

I am glad to see people are starting to fight back against the take over of our country by socialism.


17 posted on 12/17/2009 3:57:09 PM PST by Wahoo82
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I am afraid it’s not enough not soon enough but it’s a start...


18 posted on 12/17/2009 4:16:27 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

NATIONAL STRIKE


19 posted on 12/17/2009 4:21:41 PM PST by 20 years too late
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To: American Dream 246

I believe this would work well if coupled with a little education on the Rights of a Juror. I would suggest everyone read “The Citizens Rule Book”. If people were educated on our Jury System and why we a Trial by a Jury of your Peers and especially, Their True Power as a JUROR to NULLIFY BAD LAW and STOP TYRANNY, We could restore this Republic in a few short years.
I might add that over the years I personally have asked dozens of Judges in Private if they Believe a Jury has the right to decide the Law as well as the Facts and 100% said NO, until I informed them that virtually Every Supreme Court Justice starting with John Jay says they do. They especially get testy when you ask them how they swore an oath to uphold something they obviously have never read, once I handed my pocket edition to a Federal Judge after saying just that. At that point the conversation was usually over and they weren’t very happy with me.

A jury has the absolute right to JUDGE THE LAW as well as the Facts in evidence, if you believe the Law to be Unjust, then it is your right and YOUR DUTY as an American to NULLIFY BAD LAW. The Government can Only Prosecute,it requires CITIZENS to ENFORCE.
John Jay our First Supreme Court Justice.


20 posted on 12/17/2009 4:35:44 PM PST by eyeamok
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